Do I buy SH4 or not? - Page 2

MaxT.dk · 06-10-07, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ghost_666_rider

red fin hi res looks spectacular on my 30"

Care to post some screenshots?

You can upload pictures @ http://www.imageshack.us/

V.C. Sniper · 06-10-07, 06:25 PM

Silent Hunter 4 isn't a choice!!! ITS YOUR DESTINY!

dean_acheson · 06-10-07, 07:26 PM

Buy it.

It's great.

OBarbas · 06-10-07, 11:20 PM

Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed.

I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them).

Cheers
OB

NefariousKoel · 06-10-07, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OBarbas

Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed.

I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them).

Cheers
OB

For an All-In-One mod, I can recommend the Trigger Maru mod as it doesn't drastically change a whole lot. It does have much less enemy targets than stock, though, so you will be hunting more than vanilla. That being said, it fixes numerous issues with v1.2.

I modified it a bit to my tastes, but try out vanilla first then read the ReadMe for the mod to see what it's changed and see if you would prefer it.

Indiana_Jones · 06-11-07, 12:32 AM

I might grab SH4 when the price drops. ($100NZD atm, which is the going price of new games here), got SH3 for $25

-Indy

Steeltrap · 06-12-07, 07:32 AM

OBarbas, where are you in Aus?

I'm in Sydney - you can have my copy....I'll sell it to you at reduced $$ vs. retail.

ghost_666_rider · 06-13-07, 03:38 AM

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Care to post some screenshots?

Pardon my ignorance, hardware is my thing. Uploaded a quickie but don't know how to incorporate it into here. Resolution still low, framerate suffers if I go any higher. (at least till second card gets off backorder) Filters off with 6X AA. (sharper image IMHO)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5...1256xaaly9.jpg

bruschi sauro · 06-13-07, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OBarbas

I started with SH 1 playing it at my desk in the office without sound in the early '90s. SH 4 returns to the Pacific ... I want it! but ... the forums have spooked me. Is it bugged to death? I mean, it is enjoyable to play or a nightmare? Should I buy it ... or should I try SH3?

Try SH3 with GWX 1.03

SH4 is a ocean of bugs forget it.....

d@rk51d3 · 06-13-07, 04:05 AM

If I could start all over again, I would probably hold off from SHIV. It feels too arcadey for me (looks great, but has poor AI, and way too many capital ships) and although there are mods to correct this, I'm having MUCH more "fun" playing SHIII with GWX.

Not saying that it won't be worth the purchase in the (near) future, I'm sure it will, but unless you're a die hard pacific fan, you may be left feeling a little flat for the moment.

Then again, there are other guys here that absolutely LOVE the game and will try to convince you otherwise. Horses for courses.

I guess you'll just have to buy it anyway and see.......:rotfl:

OakGroove · 06-13-07, 10:55 AM

If you already own SH3, and enjoy it for it's realism (~mods), not just graphics -
i`d wait and see to what extend 1.3 and modding ventures are able to improve SH4. By then, price should have dropped by a good amount.

USS_shipmaster · 06-13-07, 11:19 AM

Untill patch 1.2 was released it was unplayable...

After 1.3 patch will be released buying it is a must!

Even with 1.2 patch it is in OK/good status.

If you are good in elementary math you will enjoy manual targeting as I do.
When patch 1.3 will add some features like “assisted method” to determine the target’s speed when playing with the manual targeting option set to “ON”, to simulate the firing party putting together subsequent range checks from the captain and solve some bugs like ship dimensions in the game config files,small conversion error with the stadimeter when using “imperial system” , the submarine radars (SD, SJ) bugs, campaign retirement bug and AI behaviour improvement the SH4 will worth all bucks u spend on it.
* AI impromement was made by beautiful mods of sirs Beery and Decimious .
They made brilliant patches, even too brilliant :-)
Bottomline: After 1.3 will released and with Beery/Decimous & Co works Wolves of the Pacific is the simulator you must to have on your PC.

John Channing · 06-13-07, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by USS_shipmaster

Untill patch 1.2 was released it was unplayable...

After 1.3 patch will be released buying it is a must!

Even with 1.2 patch it is in OK/good status.

If you are good in elementary math you will enjoy manual targeting as I do.
When patch 1.3 will add some features like “assisted method” to determine the target’s speed when playing with the manual targeting option set to “ON”, to simulate the firing party putting together subsequent range checks from the captain and solve some bugs like ship dimensions in the game config files,small conversion error with the stadimeter when using “imperial system” , the submarine radars (SD, SJ) bugs, campaign retirement bug and AI behaviour improvement the SH4 will worth all bucks u spend on it.
* AI impromement was made by beautiful mods of sirs Beery and Decimious .
They made brilliant patches, even too brilliant :-)
Bottomline: After 1.3 will released and with Beery/Decimous & Co works Wolves of the Pacific is the simulator you must to have on your PC.

Funny.

I played 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2. I might even have played a couple of versions that most of you have never even seen and enjoyed each one of them.

1.2 is the best, no questions, but to say 1.0 was unplayable is just plain foolish.

Currently the USS Snapper, having completed the looooooongest Lifeguard Mission in the history of the USN (9 pilots rescued), is on it's way to the Bismark Sea where we intend to raise hell for as long as our fuel and torpedos hold out. Then back to Brisbane to enjoy my well earned renown.

JCC

USS_shipmaster · 06-13-07, 12:04 PM

Dear Channing,thank you for "foolish" and your agressiveness you meet my opinion.
1.0 version had several condition with CTD and therefore I call it unplayable
And I dare to say that I have a lot of experience in playing SH3 and SH4 with mods that wasnt even published here i mean at subsim...
I show my attitude only to people a) with no manners or minimal knowledge of ethics)or 2) who doesnt respect people I respect.
Bon voyage! IMHO I do not need your opinion at all.

John Channing · 06-13-07, 12:19 PM

Easy there my friend.

The reason I characterized your statement as foolish is that there were hundred and hundreds of people playing 1.1 here at Subsim.com. I never said there weren't any problems, but people were playing it... and a lot of us were enjoying it.

If you take the trouble to look at the Bug list that lead to patch 1.1 you will find that a lot of the complaints were about graphic issues, not gameplay ones. The vast majority of the remaining ones were about gameplay issues that did not make the game unplayable... SD Radar picking up surface contacts, Chronometer "doesn't work", etc. In fact the only one that made the game difficult was the "A" key CTD.

So the game was playable. Was it what you expected? Maybe not. Was it what you wanted? Obviously not. Was it playable. Absolutely.

And if you are interested in a piece of friendly advise... it's never a good idea to attack any Moderator of any forum in public.

Especially this Moderator.

JCC

06-10-07, 06:25 PM	#17
V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Silent Hunter 4 isn't a choice!!! ITS YOUR DESTINY! __________________ I only need one torpedo.

06-10-07, 11:20 PM	#19
OBarbas Watch Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 22 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Which mods? Queen's Birthday today in Australia and all the shops are closed. I will install the game and run the 1.2 patch before playing as instructed. But I also see mention of mods that improve play. Which mods would you suggest? (haven't search Subsim site for links to mods but I'm sure I'll find them). Cheers OB

06-13-07, 11:19 AM	#27
USS_shipmaster Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York Posts: 114 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Untill patch 1.2 was released it was unplayable... After 1.3 patch will be released buying it is a must! Even with 1.2 patch it is in OK/good status. If you are good in elementary math you will enjoy manual targeting as I do. When patch 1.3 will add some features like “assisted method” to determine the target’s speed when playing with the manual targeting option set to “ON”, to simulate the firing party putting together subsequent range checks from the captain and solve some bugs like ship dimensions in the game config files,small conversion error with the stadimeter when using “imperial system” , the submarine radars (SD, SJ) bugs, campaign retirement bug and AI behaviour improvement the SH4 will worth all bucks u spend on it. * AI impromement was made by beautiful mods of sirs Beery and Decimious . They made brilliant patches, even too brilliant :-) Bottomline: After 1.3 will released and with Beery/Decimous & Co works Wolves of the Pacific is the simulator you must to have on your PC. __________________ All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others" G.O.

06-13-07, 12:04 PM	#29
USS_shipmaster Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York Posts: 114 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dear Channing,thank you for "foolish" and your agressiveness you meet my opinion. 1.0 version had several condition with CTD and therefore I call it unplayable And I dare to say that I have a lot of experience in playing SH3 and SH4 with mods that wasnt even published here i mean at subsim... I show my attitude only to people a) with no manners or minimal knowledge of ethics)or 2) who doesnt respect people I respect. Bon voyage! IMHO I do not need your opinion at all. __________________ All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others" G.O.

06-10-07, 07:26 PM	#18
dean_acheson Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Midwest - USA Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Buy it. It's great.

06-11-07, 12:32 AM	#21
Indiana_Jones Machinist's Mate Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Zealand Posts: 126 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I might grab SH4 when the price drops. ($100NZD atm, which is the going price of new games here), got SH3 for $25 -Indy

06-12-07, 07:32 AM	#22
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	OBarbas, where are you in Aus? I'm in Sydney - you can have my copy....I'll sell it to you at reduced $$ vs. retail.

06-13-07, 04:05 AM	#25
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	If I could start all over again, I would probably hold off from SHIV. It feels too arcadey for me (looks great, but has poor AI, and way too many capital ships) and although there are mods to correct this, I'm having MUCH more "fun" playing SHIII with GWX. Not saying that it won't be worth the purchase in the (near) future, I'm sure it will, but unless you're a die hard pacific fan, you may be left feeling a little flat for the moment. Then again, there are other guys here that absolutely LOVE the game and will try to convince you otherwise. Horses for courses. I guess you'll just have to buy it anyway and see.......:rotfl:

06-13-07, 10:55 AM	#26
OakGroove 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	If you already own SH3, and enjoy it for it's realism (~mods), not just graphics - i`d wait and see to what extend 1.3 and modding ventures are able to improve SH4. By then, price should have dropped by a good amount.

06-13-07, 12:19 PM	#30
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Easy there my friend. The reason I characterized your statement as foolish is that there were hundred and hundreds of people playing 1.1 here at Subsim.com. I never said there weren't any problems, but people were playing it... and a lot of us were enjoying it. If you take the trouble to look at the Bug list that lead to patch 1.1 you will find that a lot of the complaints were about graphic issues, not gameplay ones. The vast majority of the remaining ones were about gameplay issues that did not make the game unplayable... SD Radar picking up surface contacts, Chronometer "doesn't work", etc. In fact the only one that made the game difficult was the "A" key CTD. So the game was playable. Was it what you expected? Maybe not. Was it what you wanted? Obviously not. Was it playable. Absolutely. And if you are interested in a piece of friendly advise... it's never a good idea to attack any Moderator of any forum in public. Especially this Moderator. JCC