would you pay for a expansion including 1.3

[the_belgian]

Originally Posted by GakunGak

Translation, please?:hmm:

low cost/high sales numbers games = $$$$$$$$$$

high cost/low sales numbers sims = $$$

Originally Posted by the_belgian

low cost/high sales numbers games = $$$$$$$$$$

high cost/low sales numbers sims = $$$

Wicked....

[the_belgian]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It does, and it's not welcome here.

So,take evasive action!
you have my vote on that!

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

It does, and it's not welcome here.

Sorry my friend maybe we have a different understanding of the English used in Neal's ToS. I did not name, talk about or mention any such sites nor did I point to any and I did not ask for any information related to such things and I did not claim to have any illegitimate products. Additionally for the record I fully support software developers that fully support the communities I belong to. Shoot many of my clients are such people.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Samurai

Sorry my friend maybe we have a different understanding of the English used in Neal's ToS. I did not name, talk about or mention any such sites nor did I point to any and I did not ask for any information related to such things and I did not claim to have any illegitimate products. Additionally for the record I fully support software developers that fully support the communities I belong to. Shoot many of my clients are such people.

Dance around semantics all you want.

[Canonicus]

How much do they want?

Originally Posted by Canonicus

How much do they want?

Just give them the money and they will tell you when to stop....:rotfl:

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by Samurai

I spent well over $2000 to return the slap in the face Creative Assembly and Activision gave the Total War community and I will think nothing about doing it to UBI because they are of the same ilk.

May I ask what was the outcome of that?:hmm: If you "spent" it, looks to me as if you got no return

[LukeFF]

Pay for a patch? Not in a hundred years.

Pay for an expansion that added new ships, proper aircraft for the PTO, and other things? Of course.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

proper aircraft for the PTO

That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.

[Canonicus]

Why don't we pool our resources, (as meager as they might be!), and buy the friggin SKD!

( mind you....I just might be a little intoxicated...at the moment)

Oops..my bad...... I meant SDK

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

That will never happen as the manufacturers of those aircraft would not give licenses for them to be used in the game.

Which is why Ubi should be banished from making PTO games in the future. It's precisely because of their stupidity (i.e., the Grumman fiasco) that we have a PTO game without core aircraft like the Dauntless and the Wildcat, and fake medals that are called "WWII medals" in the manual. Oh yes, the Dauntless and the Catalina, two aircraft slated for SH4, were neither designed by Grumman, nor were their design firms ever bought out by Grumman. Ubi is just running scared and using poor logic in matters like this.

The future of wargaming lies with smaller development houses like Storm Eagle Studios, Tripwire Interactive and Battlefront, not huge, faceless corporations like Ubi and EA that dump games on the market one day and abandon their development the next.

[Spartan]

@Mookie - You can call it semantics if you like I call it "deliberate speak" and it is exactly what the business world engages in every day except it is more focused on the "legal linguistics" elements of communication. With that said I have known Neal nearly ten years and if he feels my comments will hurt his business model, which I'm well aware depends somewhat on cozy relations with developers, then he is more than welcome to edit my posts.

Additionally some food for thought, I spent a couple hours today working with one of my clients from Canon who is a senior manager and tomorrow he as well as his division boss, Q&A manager, and promotional manager will visit one of their clients to offer a truly heartfelt apology for some bugs found in their software. The entire process will take nearly four hours and involve a few briefs and a demonstration of corrective measures that Canon will implement to try to prevent future bugs of that nature in its software. Moreover they will also inform the client that several employees have had pay reductions and a few have been terminated as repentance for the oversight.

Companies like Canon that take software development so seriously warrant my full support. Now I ask you, can you name me one game developer that has ever apologized to gamers in a similar fashion - maybe with a video from the project manager on its website or some other such stuff?? I think not. It is ONLY the gaming software companies that fully exploit its consumer base and when people try to fight back they get labeled bad names. I find it all very amusing to be sure.


@Hitman - The outcome was marginally successful for the community and I ended up developing something of a mutually respectful rapport with one of the company representatives. Needless to say he simply could not believe I would spend such money on the community and I told him I'm a man of my word and I always put my money where my mouth is and I stand up for what I believe is a just cause. If more people did things like that this would truly be a better place.

Additionally if you doubt me you can always ask Neal about my veracity as I'm sure he will vouch for it. It was one such instance that led to my basically becoming a lurker in this community. You see I had a disagreement about a policy interpretation and several of the people that stood against me where at that time more valuable to Neal and logically he support their faction; in all fairness it was tacitly. Sadly enough in the long run many of them screwed Neal and the community over. However I'm still here and they are gone. Moreover if Neal ever needs help with anything he knows how to contact me and he should know if it is within my ability I'll do it.

[Sailor Steve]

Maayyyyybe. IF it is guaranteed to fix all the listed problems, and IF sufficient members of the community are allowed to be involved in the testing, and IF further patching is guaranteed if needed; then I would be glad to pay extra. I'm still hoping for a proper fixing/upgrade for SH3, which I would also be glad to pay for.

[CaptainHunter]

Hell I'm easy I would pay for the patch and the expansion