Airbus = Bad airplane to fly

[wireman]

And proudly behind schedule.

[Skybird]

You would have boarded it if it would have been released one year ago...? Well, you better would have had not

[wireman]

My point exactly.

[Chock]

You know, one funny thing that is not often pointed out about 'cockpit commonality' and something which you see in the Standard Operating Procedures books for various Airbus models quite a lot, is a warning about remembering which one you are actually flying!

There have been instances of pilots forgetting which Airbus they are in because the cockpits all look so similar, and over-rotating it on take-off - causing a tail strike - because they thought they were in one of the smaller models with a shorter fuselage!

Joking aside, this is actually a fairly serious worry, since a tail strike can seriously damage the aircraft's rear pressure bulkhead, and in fact was the cause of the loss of a JAL Boeing 747, when a repair to the rear pressure bulkhead (following a tail strike some years earlier) failed and blew most of the horizontal stabiliser off. The loss of control eventually causing the aircraft to crash, but not before the passengers had spent a horrifying amount of time knowing what a stuggle the guys up front were having, many of the paseengers writing farewell letters to their families. As far as I recall, there was only one survivor in this accident (might be wrong about that bit though).

[gnirtS]

A brainless post from someone either biased or someone genuinely without a clue how things work.

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

k - Spent 12 hours on Airbus aircraft exclusively in the last 2 weeks, and I can honestly say - I'll never fly them again if at all possible. I couldn't get first class on such short notice, but even the first class seats weren't much better than coach anyway (cloth seats for first class??). I dunno. It got me where I was going, but everything in the plane is not only uncomfortable (Boeing provides much better seat options to its customers), but incredibly noisy. The isles are tiny to and every time the stewardess walked by, she bumped the hell out of me.

So why not blame the airline who is responsible for ALL those problems. Absolutely NOTHING to do with the aircraft. Seat pitch, width, numbers, decor, covering, other facilities, noise proofing is ALL down to the airline and nothing to do with the plane maker who provide an aluminium tube ready to be fitted with what the AIRLINE request.

The Aux APU also had an issue, so mechanics running up and down the plane trying to fix it.

One of the most common faults for all commercial airlines, be it boeing, airbus, McD or anyone else. Also the APUs come from many manufacturers and can be the same unit fitted on boeing or airbus. Again, absolutely nothing to do with the aircraft.

Anyway, you Europeans can have your Airbus aircraft. I won't fly them ever again if at all possible. I'll pay extra to fly Boeing and this is the first Airbus I've flown in 10 years with similar experiences to what I flew 10 years ago.

Thats fine but i doubt they'll miss someone as clearly poorly educated as that who cant distinguish between the aircraft and the airline.

They did fix the water dripping on my leg problem though - By drying the plane out so much with A/C that you practically get a nose bleed.
-S

So that'll be the same A/C parts fitted to boeings then.

[gnirtS]

Originally Posted by DAB

I was under the impression that seats and internal configeration is largely down to the individual airlines

It is, entirely. Airlines specify all of that.

I've flown in BA Airbuses and Boings (on the same day) - the seats that were used in both were identical

Same here, connecting flights and so on. Same seats, same decor, same seat pitch. You wouldnt know what aircraft type you were on without reading the safety card.

[Penelope_Grey]

Ah well... look at it this way, if a plane goes down you're toast whether its a Boeing or an Airbus. So don't critique the plane too much, simply say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Personally, the flight itself doesn't bother me at all, its the landing that is of paramount importance to me.

I hate flying.

[Tchocky]

Looking at Subman's last thread on this, it appears he was expecting to be disappointed.

Confirmation bias, much?

[gnirtS]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Looking at Subman's last thread on this, it appears he was expecting to be disappointed.

Confirmation bias, much?

Yes, pre conceived bias before even leaving. It was obvious the mind was made up well before going.

Comparing 1st class with one airline with cargo class on a totally different airline and then blaming the airCRAFT for it. Lunacy.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Penelope_Grey

Ah well... look at it this way, if a plane goes down you're toast whether its a Boeing or an Airbus. So don't critique the plane too much, simply say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one. Personally, the flight itself doesn't bother me at all, its the landing that is of paramount importance to me.

I hate flying.

Last flight, let me think, ..before seven years. A small two prop plane, no seats, I sat on the floor. Decided to leave at 12000 feet, oops, no chute.

Glad my partner had one.

[Chock]

Only ever made one parachute jump myself, with the Army, static line from a tethered balloon.

Unless my glider ever explodes for some reason, I can assure you it'll be the last one I ever make too. Scared the crap out of me.

As far as I'm concerned, my parachute is an overpriced cushion with an airworthiness certificate.

Chock

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Chock

Personally, I wish they'd bring the DC-3 back, so there!

Do you know of any place in the United States where I can get a ride on one?

I crawl through them any chance I get at Airshows but I would really like to fly in one. And even though I was only certified SEL I would love to take the controls in level flight.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Chock

Only ever made one parachute jump myself, with the Army, static line from a tethered balloon.

Unless my glider ever explodes for some reason, I can assure you it'll be the last one I ever make too. Scared the crap out of me.

As far as I'm concerned, my parachute is an overpriced cushion with an airworthiness certificate.

Chock

Glider he, had a flight with a glider ones (two sitter), absolutely fabulous.
You really feel like a bird.

The parachute jump was a tandem. Gift from my children for my 60 birthday. 300 feet free fall. A ones in a live time experience.

[geetrue]

You can't even see the runway in a DC-3, unless your landing. They were just eaiser to fix in those days before you needed
your own ET to figure out what was wrong ...

[Chock]

Platapus, try this site, it has a link to DC-3 flights and training..

http://www.centercomp.com/cgi-bin/dc3/gallery?720