You Worst Torpedo Loadout Ever?

GnarPow · 05-10-07, 10:13 AM

I personally just had the worst batch of torpedoes in the Navy's history I think and I was wondering if anyone had as bad luck as me....

During my most recent patrol I came on a small convoy of 6 merchants and 3 destroyers... so I get into position and start attacking and here is my amount of bad torps... I had 3 duds actually hit the ships and bounce off and I had 9, count them, 9 premature explosions on the way to the target. So in anger I surfaced and actually gunned down all 3 DDs from 2500+m so they couldnt really hit me and just started picking on the ships with what torps I had left and emptied all of my deck gun ammo. 1 ship even kept floating with a huge list and I tried to ram it to roll it over, but that didnt really work, hehe. So I expended all of my torps and ammo for about 60k worth of tonnage. Not bad nonetheless but it was hard earned, lol

So my count is 12 duds in 1 loadout... Anyone get any worse than this or am I the unluckiest skipper around?

mookiemookie · 05-10-07, 10:25 AM

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So in anger I surfaced and actually gunned down all 3 DDs from 2500+m so they couldnt really hit me

Gotta love those overpowered guns and blind destroyers.

This would have been suicide for a real sub to do.

AVGWarhawk · 05-10-07, 10:26 AM

This happened in RL. I was reading about it last night but do not recall the submarine. They saved the last one so Lockwood could fire it at a solid rock wall. It did not detonate. This was the turning point to get the buggers fixed.

kikn79 · 05-10-07, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This happened in RL. I was reading about it last night but do not recall the submarine. They saved the last one so Lockwood could fire it at a solid rock wall. It did not detonate. This was the turning point to get the buggers fixed.

It was Mush Morton and the USS Wahoo.

AVGWarhawk · 05-10-07, 10:58 AM

Was it Mush? I do not recall that name but yes, he had his issues with the bad torps and a lot of them! The other skippers were getting the crappy end of the stick also. Mush ment to do something about it when he hightailed it back to PH to stake his claim.

kikn79 · 05-10-07, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Was it Mush? I do not recall that name but yes, he had his issues with the bad torps and a lot of them! The other skippers were getting the crappy end of the stick also. Mush ment to do something about it when he hightailed it back to PH to stake his claim.

His real name was Dudley W. Morton, but Mush was his nickname. (allegedly because he could still talk with 4 (yes, four!!!) golf balls in his mouth.)

He spawned the turning of the tide against Japan. He was one of the first "aggressive" captains that went after the enemy with vengence.

Chuck

AVGWarhawk · 05-10-07, 12:17 PM

Yes, but I believe this was another Skipper with the same issue. 13 torps in tanker. Only one detonated. The last they saved. I will have to look tonight.

AhhhFresh · 05-10-07, 01:01 PM

I recall the Tang had a bunch run really deep on one patrol... after a bunch of complete misses they saved four, I believe, and took them apart and actually fixed them. Reading that section and how O'Kane described torpedo assembly and it's flaws I realized that the SH IV method of "bad batches" of duds is probably pretty realistic... though extremely frustrating.

My personal worst was 10 fish at 5 different ships and only a single small hole in one of them. No clang! duds though.

That patrol was one of the prime reasons I switched to S-boats and still only load MArk 10s if I'm in anything esle!

Crosseye76 · 05-10-07, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes, but I believe this was another Skipper with the same issue. 13 torps in tanker. Only one detonated. The last they saved. I will have to look tonight.

It was Dan Daspit and the "Tinosa" Shooting at one of the "Tonan Maru" converted whale factory ships. 11 duds.

To be sure, there were many others, but that was the last straw.

AVGWarhawk · 05-10-07, 01:24 PM

Man, that name is not ringing a bell either. I will have to look at my book. The book is on the Batfish with interelated stories and one of them was this dud torpedo deal. I'll check it out tonight.

wahoo · 05-10-07, 01:30 PM

Mush Morton was the best out there at the time!!!

Lawson 'Red' Ramage also had a lot of duds on his first patrols, and got into
a shouting match with RADM Ralph Christie, and had to be subdued by another
commander!!!!

Threadfin · 05-10-07, 02:49 PM

Never heard the golf balls in mouth thing before. I believe Morton's nickname was given to him at the Naval Academy (most officers were given nicknames there), and was due to a resemblance to the character Mushmouth in the Moon Mullins cartoon.

http://www.antique-dolls-toys.com/vi...?cat=17&view=7

cobalt · 05-10-07, 02:56 PM

You can surface and gun down 3 dd's at once in sh4?

and to think i was about to buy it the other day

daft · 05-10-07, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Man, that name is not ringing a bell either. I will have to look at my book. The book is on the Batfish with interelated stories and one of them was this dud torpedo deal. I'll check it out tonight.

I'm pretty sure it was Coe in Skipjack. He submitted a pretty dire report on the performance of the Mk XIV which prompted Lockwood to conduct some testing of his own in June 1942. The result was that they managed to isolate the depth problem, but not much more than that.

daft · 05-10-07, 03:06 PM

My experiences this far is that duds and prematures are too uncommon. I've checked that I rally have the Dud Torps checkbox checked several times, but I've had it turned on from day one.

05-10-07, 10:13 AM	#1
GnarPow Gunner Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 96 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	You Worst Torpedo Loadout Ever? I personally just had the worst batch of torpedoes in the Navy's history I think and I was wondering if anyone had as bad luck as me.... During my most recent patrol I came on a small convoy of 6 merchants and 3 destroyers... so I get into position and start attacking and here is my amount of bad torps... I had 3 duds actually hit the ships and bounce off and I had 9, count them, 9 premature explosions on the way to the target. So in anger I surfaced and actually gunned down all 3 DDs from 2500+m so they couldnt really hit me and just started picking on the ships with what torps I had left and emptied all of my deck gun ammo. 1 ship even kept floating with a huge list and I tried to ram it to roll it over, but that didnt really work, hehe. So I expended all of my torps and ammo for about 60k worth of tonnage. Not bad nonetheless but it was hard earned, lol So my count is 12 duds in 1 loadout... Anyone get any worse than this or am I the unluckiest skipper around?

05-10-07, 10:26 AM	#3
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,282 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	This happened in RL. I was reading about it last night but do not recall the submarine. They saved the last one so Lockwood could fire it at a solid rock wall. It did not detonate. This was the turning point to get the buggers fixed. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-10-07, 10:58 AM	#5
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,282 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Was it Mush? I do not recall that name but yes, he had his issues with the bad torps and a lot of them! The other skippers were getting the crappy end of the stick also. Mush ment to do something about it when he hightailed it back to PH to stake his claim. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-10-07, 12:17 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,282 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Yes, but I believe this was another Skipper with the same issue. 13 torps in tanker. Only one detonated. The last they saved. I will have to look tonight. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-10-07, 01:24 PM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,282 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Man, that name is not ringing a bell either. I will have to look at my book. The book is on the Batfish with interelated stories and one of them was this dud torpedo deal. I'll check it out tonight. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

05-10-07, 01:01 PM	#8
AhhhFresh Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 52 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I recall the Tang had a bunch run really deep on one patrol... after a bunch of complete misses they saved four, I believe, and took them apart and actually fixed them. Reading that section and how O'Kane described torpedo assembly and it's flaws I realized that the SH IV method of "bad batches" of duds is probably pretty realistic... though extremely frustrating. My personal worst was 10 fish at 5 different ships and only a single small hole in one of them. No clang! duds though. That patrol was one of the prime reasons I switched to S-boats and still only load MArk 10s if I'm in anything esle!

05-10-07, 01:30 PM	#11
wahoo Watch Join Date: May 2005 Location: portland oregon Posts: 19 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Duds Mush Morton was the best out there at the time!!! Lawson 'Red' Ramage also had a lot of duds on his first patrols, and got into a shouting match with RADM Ralph Christie, and had to be subdued by another commander!!!!

05-10-07, 02:49 PM	#12
Threadfin Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,163 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Never heard the golf balls in mouth thing before. I believe Morton's nickname was given to him at the Naval Academy (most officers were given nicknames there), and was due to a resemblance to the character Mushmouth in the Moon Mullins cartoon. http://www.antique-dolls-toys.com/vi...?cat=17&view=7 __________________ What? Behind the rabbit?

05-10-07, 02:56 PM	#13
cobalt Commander Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 440 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	You can surface and gun down 3 dd's at once in sh4? and to think i was about to buy it the other day __________________ download my playable viic/41 submarine http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107315 http://files.filefront.com/CobaltsVI.../fileinfo.html

05-10-07, 03:06 PM	#15
daft Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 493 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	My experiences this far is that duds and prematures are too uncommon. I've checked that I rally have the Dud Torps checkbox checked several times, but I've had it turned on from day one. __________________ And God said: \"Let there be Narrowband!\"