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Old 04-15-07, 11:21 PM   #16
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Thank you for this. I like it a lot, and I don't need to be 'stuffy' to tell ya that!
Clayton,
I assume this was pointed at me. Sorry you saw it as stuffiness. It was actually intended as protective.

There are a lot of people who have bad computing habits, and being unneccessarily trusting of people who are actually strangers is the -original- bad habit that pre-dates computing.

Asking for extra trust without any real need is not something you should do out of the box either, and when people do it it should raise your eye-brows.

Don't ask the little old lady if she wants you to carry her purse while you help her across the street ! If you ask to carry her purse, she will be frightened. It is not neccessary or appropriate. Just help her cross.

So I communicated this without accusing, hoping to change behavior. I actually understand why a lot of people are suprised or even offended at my attitude, but what I am saying is perfectly sensible.

There is a place for EXE's but distributing JSGME Mods is not it.
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Old 04-15-07, 11:40 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by clayton
Thank you for this. I like it a lot, and I don't need to be 'stuffy' to tell ya that!
Clayton,
I assume this was pointed at me. Sorry you saw it as stuffiness. It was actually intended as protective.

There are a lot of people who have bad computing habits, and being unneccessarily trusting of people who are actually strangers is the -original- bad habit that pre-dates computing.

Asking for extra trust without any real need is not something you should do out of the box either, and when people do it it should raise your eye-brows.

Don't ask the little old lady if she wants you to carry her purse while you help her across the street ! If you ask to carry her purse, she will be frightened. It is not neccessary or appropriate. Just help her cross.

So I communicated this without accusing, hoping to change behavior. I actually understand why a lot of people are suprised or even offended at my attitude, but what I am saying is perfectly sensible.

There is a place for EXE's but distributing JSGME Mods is not it.
Someone who goes out of their way to supply the community a modification to a game we all enjoy, should not have his / her work labeled as inappropriate. Though I agree with your assessment of executable files and the viruses they may contain, a simple thank you and a request for modification to the standard here at Subsim would have been a better course of action. No worries...
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Old 04-15-07, 11:56 PM   #18
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Thank you for this. I like it a lot, and I don't need to be 'stuffy' to tell ya that!
Clayton,
I assume this was pointed at me. Sorry you saw it as stuffiness. It was actually intended as protective.

There are a lot of people who have bad computing habits, and being unneccessarily trusting of people who are actually strangers is the -original- bad habit that pre-dates computing.

Asking for extra trust without any real need is not something you should do out of the box either, and when people do it it should raise your eye-brows.

Don't ask the little old lady if she wants you to carry her purse while you help her across the street ! If you ask to carry her purse, she will be frightened. It is not neccessary or appropriate. Just help her cross.

So I communicated this without accusing, hoping to change behavior. I actually understand why a lot of people are suprised or even offended at my attitude, but what I am saying is perfectly sensible.

There is a place for EXE's but distributing JSGME Mods is not it.
Someone who goes out of their way to supply the community a modification to a game we all enjoy, should not have his / her work labeled as inappropriate. Though I agree with your assessment of executable files and the viruses they may contain, a simple thank you and a request for modification to the standard here at Subsim would have been a better course of action. No worries...
I DID express appreciation. I did NOT label his work in any way, nor did I malign him personally in any way. I let him know the problem, fairly directly. His response was totally appropriate and mature.

But apparently I rubbed you the wrong way...
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Old 04-16-07, 12:10 AM   #19
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I don't know about anyone else, but I really hate mods that are made executable for no reason. I appreciate the effort, but asking me to trust an executable to do something I am perfectly capable of doing, or that unzip/unrar can do - is inappropriate.
Your right!

I missed, 'I appreciate the effort...'
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Old 04-16-07, 05:13 PM   #20
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Hello,
I am 41 years old, I did not take this post as anything but a greatly pointed out fact. Virus and spyware troubles me here at "The Lair" too. I fully understood his concern. In my group of simmers, they like the self installers. It is easy for them to install correctly, as was pointed out, some people don't have the computing skills to know what to do with files given to them to use in sims. I help to make it simple for them. I was once new to the PC world, I know the help I was given to better my understanding 12 years ago, so I try to do the same in return for all others.
It is no big deal for me to zip up my creations for the community. I will make sure they are JSGME ready. I love this sim and the people I have met do to it.
I thank you all for being up-front with me, instead of ignoring what could be a very cool MOD by it's install being an EXE. I will have more mods as the time goes by, and now I know how to package them friendly for the community.
I am working on a Vargas Girl menu mod next.
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Old 11-07-07, 08:22 AM   #21
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I don't know whether it's just me.....
But those torps in the second pic look like a NICE PAIR OF BOOBS....

but I would not touch the 'end pieces'...
Send this guy to the medic immediately or put more bromide in his coffee! LOL

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