Kill the clipboard!

DeepSix · 04-11-07, 09:09 PM

Please! That blasted clipboard takes 3 full minutes to load on a 2.4 CoreDuo with 2 gigs of RAM and 2 7900 GTX cards - what is going on here? Meanwhile, Harry James is playing "Ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiribin" while the image loads.

Yeah, I'm whining a little bit, here, but only because the problem is ridiculous enough to deserve it. For God's sake, most of what's on the clipboard is merely a repetition of what you can already read in the dialog box -- "Convoy at long/lat...." etc.

Why not do away with the convoy sightings messages on the clipboard; save it for Fox and PacNews and Ultra instead -- the more unusual messages, in other words.

While I'm on it -- part of the frustration with the clipboard is that so many of these messages are for stuff going on far, far away from wherever I happen to be. For instance, I get sent to the Java Sea (from Pearl Harbor, no less, which is also a bit off, IMO), and once I'm there I get a 3-minute wait to learn that my presence is strongly desired off Midway Island. Well I'm just as sorry as I can be, but I'm disinclined to acquiesce to that request. I'm a little busy right now, because I'm out of torpedoes and still have 1000 miles to go before I get to a friendly gas station.

Ok, 'nuff complaining. I just think the game could be that much better.

1. Lose the duplicate messages on the clipboard since they're already in the dialog box.
2. For the early war period, divide the Pacific into historically realistic command areas - if you operate from Pearl, you spend most of your time off the home islands. You don't get a patrol assignment that's farther than the gas tank will allow. You can top off at Midway (as was done historically), but you should also be able to make it back at least that far at 2/3 speed (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that). If you operate from Manila/Soerabaja/Australia, you patrol the DEI and roughly as far up as the Philippines. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the division of command was between the Philippines and the Home Islands.

Just my opinions, here; I know there's a lot to work on for upcoming patches, but I figured I post because to my mind this is one incredible nuisance that could easily be fixed.

John Channing · 04-11-07, 09:12 PM

Funny thing is that I get no delay in opening the clipboard at all, and I have been on patrol for 3 weeks.

I open it everytime I get a message and, so far, no delays at all. Perhaps the problem is if you let too many unread messages pile up?

JCC

Gildor · 04-11-07, 09:14 PM

Install the contact message mod and you wont have this problem anymore. Check the mod list.

DeepSix · 04-11-07, 09:21 PM

Hmmm... maybe... that could be making it worse; I usually read them all as they come in until the load time gets too long and then start ignoring them.... I sort of think it's the sheer volume of information the game is tracking that does it. This sighting here, that one there, friendlies over here, bad guys over there, meanwhile your course is this way, etc. Plus the audio for the occasional news broadcast. Anyway - that's not a very "tech" belief, but it seems like the more cluttered the map gets, the slower the clipboard gets.

MONOLITH · 04-11-07, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepSix

? Meanwhile, Harry James is playing "Ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiribin" while the image loads.

LMAO!

I have to say, not so much due to the loading, but I'm not a big fan of the clipboard.

I miss the bigger log from SH3, and as a side note, I also miss the captains room. I play in real time, and I used to like setting the screen back to the captains quarters for the long trips while I did other stuff in the real world. Just felt right. I don't like standing in the command room for days on end.

I need my "personal space", as all captains should.

Jungman · 04-11-07, 09:59 PM

Looks like there was going to be a captain's room, there is a 3D model in the data files, along with the normal command and sonar rooms.

Guess it got cut in the rush out the door.

MONOLITH · 04-11-07, 10:04 PM

Here's hoping big for the 1.2 patch.....

Onkel Neal · 04-11-07, 10:14 PM

You think you have it bad... I'm getting messages on the clipboard from Subsim players asking how to play the game, they need their password reset, they want a name change... I can't get away from that even on SH4 patrol

SirJAG · 04-12-07, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MONOLITH

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeepSix

? Meanwhile, Harry James is playing "Ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiribin" while the image loads.

LMAO!

I have to say, not so much due to the loading, but I'm not a big fan of the clipboard.

I miss the bigger log from SH3, and as a side note, I also miss the captains room. I play in real time, and I used to like setting the screen back to the captains quarters for the long trips while I did other stuff in the real world. Just felt right. I don't like standing in the command room for days on end.

I need my "personal space", as all captains should.

you play in real time?? from start to finish? wow, my patrols go like 3weeks, no way i could do that in real time......

darksythe · 04-12-07, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

You think you have it bad... I'm getting messages on the clipboard from Subsim players asking how to play the game, they need their password reset, they want a name change... I can't get away from that even on SH4 patrol

Lol thats quite a mod you got there.

Von Hinten · 04-12-07, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

You think you have it bad... I'm getting messages on the clipboard from Subsim players asking how to play the game, they need their password reset, they want a name change... I can't get away from that even on SH4 patrol

It's little details like those that make this such a great sim Neal. The sheer amount of detail the devs put into sims these days is astounding.

:rotfl: :rotfl:

04-12-07, 12:39 AM

Noted, and I stopped reading ANY of the radio traffic after day 2.

Its just not worth the misery.

MONOLITH · 04-12-07, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJAG

you play in real time?? from start to finish? wow, my patrols go like 3weeks, no way i could do that in real time......

I should clarify that with a "not always", but enough that I spend quite a bit of time actually sailing to my destination, ala 'true simulation', as opposed to warping there.

I use the Time compression sparingly here and there to speed some things up, but for the most part I drive a submarine, not the Starship Enterprise.

Grothesj2 · 04-12-07, 06:06 AM

Soooo...have yet to see your first enemy ship then becuase you are still on your way to the patrol area?

GnarPow · 04-12-07, 06:37 AM

The contact table mod fixed this problem right away for me... now it doesnt take long at all to load my messages up.

04-11-07, 09:09 PM	#1
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Kill the clipboard! Please! That blasted clipboard takes 3 full minutes to load on a 2.4 CoreDuo with 2 gigs of RAM and 2 7900 GTX cards - what is going on here? Meanwhile, Harry James is playing "Ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiri- ciribiribin" while the image loads. Yeah, I'm whining a little bit, here, but only because the problem is ridiculous enough to deserve it. For God's sake, most of what's on the clipboard is merely a repetition of what you can already read in the dialog box -- "Convoy at long/lat...." etc. Why not do away with the convoy sightings messages on the clipboard; save it for Fox and PacNews and Ultra instead -- the more unusual messages, in other words. While I'm on it -- part of the frustration with the clipboard is that so many of these messages are for stuff going on far, far away from wherever I happen to be. For instance, I get sent to the Java Sea (from Pearl Harbor, no less, which is also a bit off, IMO), and once I'm there I get a 3-minute wait to learn that my presence is strongly desired off Midway Island. Well I'm just as sorry as I can be, but I'm disinclined to acquiesce to that request. I'm a little busy right now, because I'm out of torpedoes and still have 1000 miles to go before I get to a friendly gas station. Ok, 'nuff complaining. I just think the game could be that much better. 1. Lose the duplicate messages on the clipboard since they're already in the dialog box. 2. For the early war period, divide the Pacific into historically realistic command areas - if you operate from Pearl, you spend most of your time off the home islands. You don't get a patrol assignment that's farther than the gas tank will allow. You can top off at Midway (as was done historically), but you should also be able to make it back at least that far at 2/3 speed (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that). If you operate from Manila/Soerabaja/Australia, you patrol the DEI and roughly as far up as the Philippines. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the division of command was between the Philippines and the Home Islands. Just my opinions, here; I know there's a lot to work on for upcoming patches, but I figured I post because to my mind this is one incredible nuisance that could easily be fixed. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

04-11-07, 09:14 PM	#3
Gildor Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 251 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Install the contact message mod and you wont have this problem anymore. Check the mod list. __________________ U-46: Oct 1943 off Portugal

04-11-07, 09:21 PM	#4
DeepSix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Music City Posts: 683 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hmmm... maybe... that could be making it worse; I usually read them all as they come in until the load time gets too long and then start ignoring them.... I sort of think it's the sheer volume of information the game is tracking that does it. This sighting here, that one there, friendlies over here, bad guys over there, meanwhile your course is this way, etc. Plus the audio for the occasional news broadcast. Anyway - that's not a very "tech" belief, but it seems like the more cluttered the map gets, the slower the clipboard gets. __________________ Jack's happy days will soon be gone, To return again, oh never! For they've raised his pay five cents a day, But they've stopped his grog forever. For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, For tonight we'll merry, merry be, But tomorrow we'll be sober. - "Farewell to Grog"

04-11-07, 10:04 PM	#7
MONOLITH Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 997 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Here's hoping big for the 1.2 patch..... __________________

04-11-07, 09:12 PM	#2
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Funny thing is that I get no delay in opening the clipboard at all, and I have been on patrol for 3 weeks. I open it everytime I get a message and, so far, no delays at all. Perhaps the problem is if you let too many unread messages pile up? JCC

04-11-07, 09:59 PM	#6
Jungman Samurai Navy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Iowa, USA Posts: 596 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Looks like there was going to be a captain's room, there is a 3D model in the data files, along with the normal command and sonar rooms. Guess it got cut in the rush out the door.

04-11-07, 10:14 PM	#8
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	You think you have it bad... I'm getting messages on the clipboard from Subsim players asking how to play the game, they need their password reset, they want a name change... I can't get away from that even on SH4 patrol

04-12-07, 12:39 AM	#12
Grunt Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Noted, and I stopped reading ANY of the radio traffic after day 2. Its just not worth the misery.

04-12-07, 06:06 AM	#14
Grothesj2 Medic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 167 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Soooo...have yet to see your first enemy ship then becuase you are still on your way to the patrol area?

04-12-07, 06:37 AM	#15
GnarPow Gunner Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 96 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The contact table mod fixed this problem right away for me... now it doesnt take long at all to load my messages up.