Graphics issue... Sliders up but graphics still bad?

Camaero · 04-06-07, 12:19 AM

Hi all, I have most of the sliders to the max in my game, except for the environmental effects. Still, the graphics look worse than SHIII.

Anyone have ideas? Here is a screenshot:

I apologize for the size for any 56kers.

Rip · 04-06-07, 12:27 AM

What resolution are you running?

If it is high you are probably seeing the effect of the lack of AA and resolution scaling. Two of the top ten issues for many people. Many hoping they can resolve it.

04-06-07, 12:27 AM

Did you put the resolution to the maximim? At default resolution, your screen looks like someone spread vasaline on your monitor because of the "gritty" affect the game creates.

Camaero · 04-06-07, 12:31 AM

Actually, the resolution is 1024 x 768. My computer could probably handle a 1280 x 1024 though. It doesn't seem like thats the problem though.... I will go check and report back.

Camaero · 04-06-07, 12:37 AM

Ok, just changed the resolution to 1280x1024 and it still looked the same.

Ugh... I thought I would be turning the graphics down in SHIV not trying to turn them up!

I appreciate the help you guys are offering, any other ideas?

Rwolf · 04-06-07, 04:45 AM

I had crappy graphics (blurred) due to some settings in my ATI Catalyst Control Center for performance; I changed all sliders forcing to 'quality' and it looked much better.
Maybe something similar happens to your card?

04-06-07, 05:13 AM

It also might have some underlying settings that change depenending on your card, when I went from my x550 to my X1950 there was a notable graphic boost with even same settings I had used on my x550, like for example no matter what settings I had with my x550 the crewmen always looked like they were in full like, now they don't.

Hanzo · 04-06-07, 05:19 AM

The lack of a true resolution beyond 1024x768 (It just scales up beyond that resolution) makes the game look even uglier and blurrier on an LCD screen

The 'ugliness' you are seeing is coming from the jaggies, that sadly won't disappear even if you set the resolution to max.

Once we get AA and 'true' resolution options with the next patch (here's hoping :hmm

the game will look much better for you!

OakGroove · 04-06-07, 05:34 AM

Some things that should help with excess blurriness:

1. Enable vsync via main.cfg in your documents folder by changing Synchronized=No to Synchronized=Yes.

2. Force Anisotropic filtering via your GPU control applet

3. Providing your GPU control applet supports this setting - Change LOD Bias to a negative value. Using ATT this setting can be found D3D>Settings>Additional>Texture Lod Adjustment

AVGWarhawk · 04-06-07, 07:14 AM

Uhmmm....I must be blind but the picture looks ok to me

. Is your post processing filter on? I can not play without it.

basilio · 04-06-07, 09:59 AM

I'm VERY disappointed by the graphics too, considering that I just purchased a new video card for this game.
From ATI 9800 XT to ATI X1950 PRO 512 MB.
Please could someone be so kind to take a look at the screenshots in my thread here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110860 and tell me if there is something wrong with my (new) card???
EDIT: the above thread was moved.
Pictures are here now http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107783&page=12

SteamWake · 04-06-07, 10:11 AM

Im running mine at 1280X1024 on a 19" flat screen with an ATI card and it looks pretty darn good.

The only thing that bothers me is the phosperescent wakes at night.

basilio · 04-06-07, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Im running mine at 1280X1024 on a 19" flat screen with an ATI card and it looks pretty darn good

I'm happy for you, because I honestly don't see anything "pretty darn good" on this

Spaxspore · 04-06-07, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by basilio

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Im running mine at 1280X1024 on a 19" flat screen with an ATI card and it looks pretty darn good

I'm happy for you, because I honestly don't see anything "pretty darn good" on this

here is the example if what it should look like, @ max settings with post proccss (no vsync & forced AA)

also whats your vid drivers and direct x version.

And take a screen shot of your ingame settings

Marko_Ramius · 04-06-07, 11:11 AM

I really understand what you means, guys who find the graphics not so good ..

When i first launch the game, and because i had read some reviews and seen good screenies, i nearly blow up

I was thinking that i was having a problem with my graphic card .. but no, it was normal

Though, more i try to play, more i find some beautiful stuff in it. The water rendering, the explosions, sunset, sunrise, the light, etc ...

But i really don't like te "cartoons effect" sometimes i see ( Sub base with those trees, for exemple)

It is is a strange feeling : a beautiful game but, in the same time, it is awfull :hmm:

The Devs said they will adress the lack of FSAA and resolution, so let's hope

EDIT : One issue with the graphic is very difficult to see on screenshot. When you see it in motion, ther is a strange effect, like some kind of "waves" ( difficult to explain, can't find the words) + the jaggies = awfull

04-06-07, 12:19 AM	#1
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Graphics issue... Sliders up but graphics still bad? Hi all, I have most of the sliders to the max in my game, except for the environmental effects. Still, the graphics look worse than SHIII. Anyone have ideas? Here is a screenshot: I apologize for the size for any 56kers. __________________

04-06-07, 12:31 AM	#4
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Actually, the resolution is 1024 x 768. My computer could probably handle a 1280 x 1024 though. It doesn't seem like thats the problem though.... I will go check and report back. __________________

04-06-07, 12:37 AM	#5
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Ok, just changed the resolution to 1280x1024 and it still looked the same. Ugh... I thought I would be turning the graphics down in SHIV not trying to turn them up! I appreciate the help you guys are offering, any other ideas? __________________

04-06-07, 07:14 AM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,267 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Uhmmm....I must be blind but the picture looks ok to me. Is your post processing filter on? I can not play without it. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

04-06-07, 09:59 AM	#11
basilio Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Italy Posts: 124 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I'm VERY disappointed by the graphics too, considering that I just purchased a new video card for this game. From ATI 9800 XT to ATI X1950 PRO 512 MB. Please could someone be so kind to take a look at the screenshots in my thread here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110860 and tell me if there is something wrong with my (new) card??? EDIT: the above thread was moved. Pictures are here now http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...107783&page=12 Last edited by basilio; 04-06-07 at 10:27 AM.

04-06-07, 12:27 AM	#2
Rip Commodore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Right behind you! Posts: 643 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	What resolution are you running? If it is high you are probably seeing the effect of the lack of AA and resolution scaling. Two of the top ten issues for many people. Many hoping they can resolve it.

04-06-07, 12:27 AM	#3
SaltyMcSushi Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Did you put the resolution to the maximim? At default resolution, your screen looks like someone spread vasaline on your monitor because of the "gritty" affect the game creates.

04-06-07, 04:45 AM	#6
Rwolf Watch Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 21 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I had crappy graphics (blurred) due to some settings in my ATI Catalyst Control Center for performance; I changed all sliders forcing to 'quality' and it looked much better. Maybe something similar happens to your card?

04-06-07, 05:13 AM	#7
Rilder Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	It also might have some underlying settings that change depenending on your card, when I went from my x550 to my X1950 there was a notable graphic boost with even same settings I had used on my x550, like for example no matter what settings I had with my x550 the crewmen always looked like they were in full like, now they don't.

04-06-07, 05:19 AM	#8
Hanzo Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London Posts: 21 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	The lack of a true resolution beyond 1024x768 (It just scales up beyond that resolution) makes the game look even uglier and blurrier on an LCD screen The 'ugliness' you are seeing is coming from the jaggies, that sadly won't disappear even if you set the resolution to max. Once we get AA and 'true' resolution options with the next patch (here's hoping :hmm the game will look much better for you!

04-06-07, 05:34 AM	#9
OakGroove 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Some things that should help with excess blurriness: 1. Enable vsync via main.cfg in your documents folder by changing Synchronized=No to Synchronized=Yes. 2. Force Anisotropic filtering via your GPU control applet 3. Providing your GPU control applet supports this setting - Change LOD Bias to a negative value. Using ATT this setting can be found D3D>Settings>Additional>Texture Lod Adjustment

04-06-07, 10:11 AM	#12
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Im running mine at 1280X1024 on a 19" flat screen with an ATI card and it looks pretty darn good. The only thing that bothers me is the phosperescent wakes at night.

04-06-07, 11:11 AM	#15
Marko_Ramius Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near Paris Posts: 303 Downloads: 113 Uploads: 0	I really understand what you means, guys who find the graphics not so good .. When i first launch the game, and because i had read some reviews and seen good screenies, i nearly blow up I was thinking that i was having a problem with my graphic card .. but no, it was normal Though, more i try to play, more i find some beautiful stuff in it. The water rendering, the explosions, sunset, sunrise, the light, etc ... But i really don't like te "cartoons effect" sometimes i see ( Sub base with those trees, for exemple) It is is a strange feeling : a beautiful game but, in the same time, it is awfull :hmm: The Devs said they will adress the lack of FSAA and resolution, so let's hope EDIT : One issue with the graphic is very difficult to see on screenshot. When you see it in motion, ther is a strange effect, like some kind of "waves" ( difficult to explain, can't find the words) + the jaggies = awfull