"Belly" shots no longer work?

dangchang · 03-24-07, 12:56 PM

I remember in SH3 you could set your torpedo to explode as it passes under the ship. I've tried it against a Mogami, which has a draft of 14.4 Ft. I set depth to around 17-18 and exploder to contact influence.

joea · 03-24-07, 01:25 PM

Mate, if you're using the "dud torpedo" option be sure that early war US torps did not work that well.

ComradeP · 03-24-07, 01:35 PM

And be sure to aim slightly higher (in the Mogami's case: at roughly 12ft or so) than the ship's draft.

The problem is usually not that the torpedo's don't work, but that they "drop" after leaving the tube, hence why you need to compensate for roughly 2/2.5ft.

dangchang · 03-24-07, 01:41 PM

No, I'm not trying to directly hit the ship, I'm trying to get the torpedeo to explode once it gets directly below it.

ComradeP · 03-24-07, 01:44 PM

I know, that's why I stated you should compensate: the thing will only blow up at a certain distance from the hull. I'm unfortunately not sure what that distance is currently.

I'd say that the thing will blow up within a ft or so from the hull, if you're lucky, but thus far my own experience with breaking ships in two is a mixed bunch: sometime properly aimed shots don't do a thing, and sometimes that shot that should've never hit in the first place breaks a cruiser like a cracker.

NefariousKoel · 03-24-07, 01:57 PM

The magnetic influence detonators on American torpedoes were quite horrible.

I've only been using contact on mine, as the few times I tried magnetic, they almost always blow up far too prematurely. So prematurely I think the enemy crew don't even get wet from the explosion.

ComradeP · 03-24-07, 01:59 PM

Yeah, I don't think the person that coined the phrase "spray and pray" was thinking about spraying water over the Japanese.

Ah well, at least it seems to work sometimes.

MikeJW · 03-24-07, 02:22 PM

Not sure how well its modeled in SH4 but the magnetic detonators were aweful in US subs and the contact detonator was just as bad. In fact, on a US torpedo a perfect 90 degree angle shot usually was a dud because it would crush the detonator so a less than ideal angle was, well, ideal. One sub fired 16 torps at a Japanese merchant:all were duds or premature explosions.

ryuzu · 03-24-07, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dangchang

No, I'm not trying to directly hit the ship, I'm trying to get the torpedeo to explode once it gets directly below it.

In the practice mission (no 3 I think) I've been practicing with the mag. detonators and they seemed to work for me - this was with V1 though, not sure I've tried it v1.1.

Usually I fire a spread, and the few times I tried the torps all detonated. This was on all realism except external view (so I could see the torps) and auto TDC (since I was getting the stadimeter crash).

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dangchang · 03-24-07, 02:45 PM

Ah, I see, thanks.

Sceptre666 · 03-24-07, 02:48 PM

Is the torpedo depth setter in Metric or Imperial? (Feet or Meters?)

MikeJW · 03-24-07, 02:49 PM

Should be in feet.

Hylander_1314 · 03-24-07, 02:57 PM

On the early war torps, the magnetic detonaters were junk. They would prematurely explode often close to the sub giving away the subs position. Your best bet is to use the contact detonators, firing so the fish hit the target at an angle.

ccruner13 · 03-24-07, 04:13 PM

im pretty sure i had one explode in the tube...yea..i died

peterj · 03-24-07, 05:58 PM

It seems the composite ships are immune to magnetic detonators?

03-24-07, 12:56 PM	#1
dangchang Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	"Belly" shots no longer work? I remember in SH3 you could set your torpedo to explode as it passes under the ship. I've tried it against a Mogami, which has a draft of 14.4 Ft. I set depth to around 17-18 and exploder to contact influence.

03-24-07, 01:57 PM	#6
NefariousKoel Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: No-good Missouri scum Posts: 1,223 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The magnetic influence detonators on American torpedoes were quite horrible. I've only been using contact on mine, as the few times I tried magnetic, they almost always blow up far too prematurely. So prematurely I think the enemy crew don't even get wet from the explosion. __________________ "When Gary told me he had found Jesus, I thought, Yahoo! We're rich! But it turned out to be something different." - Jack Handey

03-24-07, 02:57 PM	#13
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	On the early war torps, the magnetic detonaters were junk. They would prematurely explode often close to the sub giving away the subs position. Your best bet is to use the contact detonators, firing so the fish hit the target at an angle. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

03-24-07, 01:25 PM	#2
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Mate, if you're using the "dud torpedo" option be sure that early war US torps did not work that well.

03-24-07, 01:35 PM	#3
ComradeP Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arnhem, Gelderland province, the Netherlands Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	And be sure to aim slightly higher (in the Mogami's case: at roughly 12ft or so) than the ship's draft. The problem is usually not that the torpedo's don't work, but that they "drop" after leaving the tube, hence why you need to compensate for roughly 2/2.5ft.

03-24-07, 01:41 PM	#4
dangchang Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No, I'm not trying to directly hit the ship, I'm trying to get the torpedeo to explode once it gets directly below it.

03-24-07, 01:44 PM	#5
ComradeP Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arnhem, Gelderland province, the Netherlands Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I know, that's why I stated you should compensate: the thing will only blow up at a certain distance from the hull. I'm unfortunately not sure what that distance is currently. I'd say that the thing will blow up within a ft or so from the hull, if you're lucky, but thus far my own experience with breaking ships in two is a mixed bunch: sometime properly aimed shots don't do a thing, and sometimes that shot that should've never hit in the first place breaks a cruiser like a cracker.

03-24-07, 01:59 PM	#7
ComradeP Seaman Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arnhem, Gelderland province, the Netherlands Posts: 40 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I don't think the person that coined the phrase "spray and pray" was thinking about spraying water over the Japanese. Ah well, at least it seems to work sometimes.

03-24-07, 02:22 PM	#8
MikeJW Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Not sure how well its modeled in SH4 but the magnetic detonators were aweful in US subs and the contact detonator was just as bad. In fact, on a US torpedo a perfect 90 degree angle shot usually was a dud because it would crush the detonator so a less than ideal angle was, well, ideal. One sub fired 16 torps at a Japanese merchant:all were duds or premature explosions.

03-24-07, 02:45 PM	#10
dangchang Watch Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 27 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Ah, I see, thanks.

03-24-07, 02:48 PM	#11
Sceptre666 Watch Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 28 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Is the torpedo depth setter in Metric or Imperial? (Feet or Meters?)

03-24-07, 02:49 PM	#12
MikeJW Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Should be in feet.

03-24-07, 04:13 PM	#14
ccruner13 Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 175 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	im pretty sure i had one explode in the tube...yea..i died

03-24-07, 05:58 PM	#15
peterj Nub Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It seems the composite ships are immune to magnetic detonators?