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Old 03-21-07, 02:03 PM   #61
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Any game that the community can alter/tinker with has a massively increased lifespan over one that doesn't.

Think of SH3, Falcon 4, MS Flight sim series - all of which are kept alive years after their shelf life due to community improvements.

Agreed, but the only question that really remians is.....

How moddable is SHIV?
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Old 03-21-07, 02:05 PM   #62
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It worries me that the "Target speed measuring" clock in manual TDC is NOT on the bugfix list. Patch info has been removed on the UK site, reason "not confirmed yet".

Update: updated patch list at the official SH4 forum here: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/8821092345

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Old 03-21-07, 02:12 PM   #63
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Sad but true.

It always amazes me how a company can release a blatantly unfinished product, and then release a patch right afterwards and have all the fans attribute this patch release to "the development teams dedication to the fans".
I know what you mean by that remark. Many, many players have either already purchased the game or is awaiting its arrival on their doorstep. What I feel sorry for is actually the players that purchased the "Collector's Edition" which cost around $80 USD, and feel what they are feeling right now. As many has already stated this patch was in the works probably even before the game was announced as "Gold Master". Any devote "followers" of Ubisoft WILL support them by calling us "whinners" and/or "complainers" , but I personally refuse to pay for a game that is totally buggy from the start.

I am truly awaiting what the magazine reviewers, like PC Gamer, are going to say concerning this game, because they review the game as it "came out of the box", NOT after it has been "patched". I can see them really dishing this game, like at probably 2/10 or 20%. This will be horrible for Ubisoft, but they did it to themselves!
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Old 03-21-07, 02:18 PM   #64
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The post is still there - I am looking at it right now.

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Windows will require additional free hard drive space for its operating system
(virtual memory). If you encounter the following message in an error dialog:
"Ran out of virtual memory", free up some more hard drive space.

To install Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific - Patch V 1.1 you will need approximately 200 MB free hard disk space for the full patch.
BTW, I am guessing that all of that junk is just alerting you to the fact that the patch will expand to eat up VIRTUAL MEMORY - not HD space.

It is odd that it would be mentioned as you need at least a Gig to run this thing in the first place and I'm pretty sure that no one is dumb enough to have a dozen programs running when the upload the patch.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:19 PM   #65
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I just don't understand the mentality of releasing a game and expecting a community to help perfect it.
What's so difficult to understand about it? It works, the publishers can do this crap over and over (and they have been doing so for quite some time already), and it still works, no one really complains, everyone just marches into the next shop and buys the bug ridden games.
I would say it doesn't work. The PC is still a superior platform over any console on the market today although they are almost matched now. This is evidenced by the current pricing of the consoles. They're close to the same price as a vanilla PC and the internals are now almost identical. Hmm, what does that tell you? Now with that in mind... What is the ratio of PC games to console games? A vastly superior platform with fewer and fewer available games for it? That tells me people are NOT going out and buying the next bug ridden games for PC. They're going for the console games 'cause they work with only very minor bugs, if any at all, when they're released and don't require 20 hours or more of foolin' around with it before it's usable.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:22 PM   #66
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The post is still there - I am looking at it right now.

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Windows will require additional free hard drive space for its operating system
(virtual memory). If you encounter the following message in an error dialog:
"Ran out of virtual memory", free up some more hard drive space.

To install Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific - Patch V 1.1 you will need approximately 200 MB free hard disk space for the full patch.
BTW, I am guessing that all of that junk is just alerting you to the fact that the patch will expand to eat up VIRTUAL MEMORY - not HD space.

It is odd that it would be mentioned as you need at least a Gig to run this thing in the first place and I'm pretty sure that no one is dumb enough to have a dozen programs running when the upload the patch.

HD space IS virtual memory

"In NT-based versions of Windows (such as Windows 2000 and Windows XP), the swap file is named pagefile.sys. The default location of the page file is in the root directory of the partition where Windows is installed. Windows can be configured to use free space on any available drives for page files IE Virtual Memory."
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Old 03-21-07, 02:26 PM   #67
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I'm not even a casual gamer anymore cause of this.
I'm an IT manager that plugs away on this crap all day long. I want/need a game where I can get away from having to mod, patch, mess with resolution settings, AA, driver incompatibilites, downloading multiple patches, etc. I don't want to have to do that after a day on the job!
With you on that. I only got GWX as I was off work, using a few days of leave and thus decided to take the time to dick around with it. otherwise I couldn't be arsed.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:28 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by Spaxspore
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Originally Posted by Barkhorn1x
The post is still there - I am looking at it right now.

Quote:
Windows will require additional free hard drive space for its operating system
(virtual memory). If you encounter the following message in an error dialog:
"Ran out of virtual memory", free up some more hard drive space.

To install Silent Hunter 4 - Wolves of the Pacific - Patch V 1.1 you will need approximately 200 MB free hard disk space for the full patch.
BTW, I am guessing that all of that junk is just alerting you to the fact that the patch will expand to eat up VIRTUAL MEMORY - not HD space.

It is odd that it would be mentioned as you need at least a Gig to run this thing in the first place and I'm pretty sure that no one is dumb enough to have a dozen programs running when the upload the patch.
HD space IS virtual memory

"In NT-based versions of Windows (such as Windows 2000 and Windows XP), the swap file is named pagefile.sys. The default location of the page file is in the root directory of the partition where Windows is installed. Windows can be configured to use free space on any available drives for page files IE Virtual Memory."
Not exactly. Hd space can be used as virtual memory, but it is not virtual memory.

I'm guessing the 200 MB is needed because it mentions sound files and end game movies and other such things that will be large.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:34 PM   #69
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What they are saying is the game is a ram hog and if you installed the game you may have little room left on your drive for the pagefile to expand or you have a static setting on your page file you need to increase.

This is more of a problem for people with lower ram ammounts
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Old 03-21-07, 02:35 PM   #70
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Oh thank you, Jeebus!

Quick response. Keep 'em comin'... GOOD GOOD GOOD!
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Old 03-21-07, 02:35 PM   #71
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Not exactly. Hd space can be used as virtual memory, but it is not virtual memory.

I'm guessing the 200 MB is needed because it mentions sound files and end game movies and other such things that will be large.
What Ted said!

Look, I am no technical genius but I do seem to recall issues w/ certain files in the past where my VM couldn't handle the load. Of course I had a 486 at that time w/ about 64MB of VM.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:35 PM   #72
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I just bought EU3, great game.
Good game indeed.

*On the SH4 1.1 patch: that's definitely a good start.
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Old 03-21-07, 02:45 PM   #73
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NEW FEATURES


1. Added the S-42 class to the game,


2. Added more abjectives in campaign.
1. Ooh! If they keep adding new content through patches like IL:2 I doubt there will be two dissenters on this entire board.

2. Aparently fleet command will now insult you if you perform poorly. Be more agressive!
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Old 03-21-07, 02:47 PM   #74
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While i am glad that UBI is going to release the 1.1 patch, the contents of the patch are things that should have been included in R1. I feel sick for paying $49.99 plus tax to beta test a game for UBI. I pay that the genius and hardwork of the GWX team, produces something for SH4, i think it is our only hope. x 11ty million
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Old 03-21-07, 02:48 PM   #75
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Not exactly. Hd space can be used as virtual memory, but it is not virtual memory.

I'm guessing the 200 MB is needed because it mentions sound files and end game movies and other such things that will be large.
What Ted said!

Look, I am no technical genius but I do seem to recall issues w/ certain files in the past where my VM couldn't handle the load. Of course I had a 486 at that time w/ about 64MB of VM.
ok maybe i wasnt clear, virtual memory is a fancy word that really indicates a file known as a page file in windows NT/XP. It can be set to a certain amount in system properties, but since it is a file and its on the hard drive, it does take up space....




need i say more???
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