1963 Communist Goals

Rockstar · 03-21-07, 12:11 PM

I said before waay back when the wall came down. All that happened when it fell was the vermon spread out like a virus under the cover of our gloating over victory and freedom.

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

elite_hunter_sh3 · 03-21-07, 12:51 PM

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 01:27 PM

Sad but true. And they are winning. John Kerry last year even wanted us to move our powers to the UN - a very corrupt UN.

-S

STEED · 03-21-07, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Sad but true. And they are winning. John Kerry last year even wanted us to move our powers to the UN - a very corrupt UN.

-S

What has the UN & EU got in common? Both are a nest of vipers.

Letum · 03-21-07, 01:32 PM

I don't understand what you are saying......

This is a list of what Albert Herlong, Jr. thought where communist goals right?

Who/what where his sources for the list?

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

I don't understand what you are saying......

This is a list of what Albert Herlong, Jr. thought where communist goals right?

Who/what where his sources for the list?

Communist party was his sources - we have one in the US.

I think whomever quoted this on the site you got this from should correctly state that this Congressman was asked to list this by another Congress woman. Our Democratic party seems to be responsible for most of these changes.

-S

Letum · 03-21-07, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Letum

I don't understand what you are saying......

This is a list of what Albert Herlong, Jr. thought where communist goals right?

Who/what where his sources for the list?

Communist party was his sources - we have one in the US.

heh! Doesn't look like they would have got very far down the list if they leaked their agenda so readily.

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

heh! Doesn't look like they would have got very far down the list if they leaked their agenda so readily.

The parties here in the US are open and actively try to get their messages out, so this doesn't surprise me. They think people want this which is why, and sadly, they are slowly erroding away our values to accomplish it since they have got their hooks into the democaratic party as a back up.

-S

Letum · 03-21-07, 02:40 PM

Just for fun lets see how they did:

1) Coexistence: Partial success
2) Capitulate: Fail
3) "moral strength": Fail
4) Free trade: Partial success
5) Loans: Partial success
6) American aid: Mainly failed
7) Recognition of China and UN: Total success
8) East and West Germany: Total Fail
9) Prolong the atomic conferences: I don't know
10) Representation in the UN: Partial success
11) One world government: Fail
12) Resist outlaw the Communist Party: Success
13) Do away with loyalty oaths: Partial success in some places
14) Access to the US Patent Office: Total success, it's even on google patents now!
15) Capture political parties: Fail
16) Civil rights abuse: Fail ASAIK
17) Get control of the schools: Fail AFAIK
18) Student newspapers: dont know/Highly subjective
19) Student riots: Dont Know
20) Infiltrate the press. Dont Know
21) TV: Dont Know
22) Degrading all form of art: dont know/Highly subjective
23) Control art critics dont know/Highly subjective
24) Eliminate "censorship": Partial success
25) Promoting pornography: Success
26) Homosexuality "normal, natural, and healthy": Partial success
27) Discredit the Bible: Partial success
28) Eliminate prayer in schools: Partial success in places
29) Discredit the American Constitution: Mostly a Fail
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Fail
31) Belittle all forms of American culture: Fail
32) Centralized welfare: Mostly failed(?)
33) Eliminate laws which interfere w. Communist: Fail (?)
34) Eliminate Committee on Un-American Activities. dont know
35) Dismantle the FBI: Fail
36) Gain control of more unions: Fail ASAIK
37) Infiltrate big business: Fail ASAIK
38) Powers of arrest to social agencies. dont know
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession: Fail AFAIK
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) raise children away from parents: Fail
42) violence is American tradition: Fail
43) Overthrow all colonial governments dont know
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal. dont know (although I should)
45) Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike. dont know (although I should)

fatty · 03-21-07, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Communist party was his sources - we have one in the US.

Herlong's source is actually Cleon Skousen's book The Naked Communist. Skousen was an interesting character; an FBI agent under Hoover during the McCarthy era turned conspiracy theorist.

Letum · 03-21-07, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fatty

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Communist party was his sources - we have one in the US.

Herlong's source is actually Cleon Skousen's book The Naked Communist. Skousen was an interesting character; an FBI agent under Hoover during the McCarthy era turned conspiracy theorist.

Oh? really?
Who told you it was the communist party SUBMAN1? Did you just make that up?

I thought this sounded like conspiracy theorist stuff! :rotfl:

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Just for fun lets see how they did:

My take on it on the parts I disagree on -

1) Coexistence: I'd say full success here if you include China

3) "moral strength": Partial Succes In progress - we are now a perfessional army and a much smaller army

6) American aid: I'd say partial success here - we have a lot of $$$ tied up over there right now.

9) Prolong the atomic conferences: Success - They are still ongoing - now with N. Korea even
10) Representation in the UN: hmm. have to think about this one
11) One world government: "In progress" would be better I think. Look around - Europe and the European Union. Bush just made Canada Mexico and the same nation practically (what is he thinking?). Kerry and party wanting to give powers over to the UN and even the World court. It is happening.

15) Capture political parties: Success - Democrats has a very Socialistic approach. Hillary has made some Communistic type statements about redistributing the wealthy's money, etc.

16) Civil rights abuse: Success - We hear how the ALCU did this and that every day in the name of Civil Rights. Can't even display a religious symbol on public property for example.

17) Get control of the schools: Success - It is all you hear out of Universities now. There are even cases of people failing if they state they have any conservative feelings. Its ugly.

19) Student riots: Success - Vietnam is an example
20) Infiltrate the press. Success - They push very Solcialistic views on a daily basis.

21) TV: Success - Desperate housewifes is an example

22) Degrading all form of art: dont know/Highly subjective - I agree, but art lately is well, not art to me - its Ugly!

23) Control art critics dont know/Highly subjective - I agree again, but I'd say success due to #22.

28) Eliminate prayer in schools: Success. It is not permitted in public schools here
.
29) Discredit the American Constitution: Mostly a Fail - Agree though it is under attack daily.

32) Centralized welfare: Partial Success - half is still controlled by a given state, some is private, some controlled by US Gov.

33) Eliminate laws which interfere w. Communist: Partial Success - but this is dependant on perspective so highly subjective to what law you are looking at. If its free trade for example, or if it's outlawing the Communist party is another.

34) Eliminate Committee on Un-American Activities. Success - There is no committee anymore if one existed at one time.

37) Infiltrate big business: Partial success??? - some companies are touting Socialistic ideas, and even central control. Software comes to mind.

38) Powers of arrest to social agencies. Success. Look at SPCA or even mental institutions.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. Success
41) raise children away from parents: Success - Most families have 2 incomes and children are raised by Daycare with their own state guided way of raising them.

42) violence is American tradition: Success - Look at Hollywood.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal. Success - I think Panama is in control of this now and it is an international waterway

45) Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike. Fail - but possibly in the near future this will be a success - Kerry wants to transfer power to the World Court, but this hasn't happened yet.

joea · 03-21-07, 03:35 PM

Communism is finished, can't you Yanks get your heads out of the Cold War. If the commies won, why the hell did the USSR and Yugoslavia collapse into chaos and in some cases bloodshed. Even the Chinese are capitalist now.

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Oh? really?
Who told you it was the communist party SUBMAN1? Did you just make that up?

I thought this sounded like conspiracy theorist stuff! :rotfl:

The part about our parties being very open is not made up. Where the data comes from is still in question, but it falls inline with what they are seeking:
http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/9/

-S

PS. I feel like you are out to get me - Its a conspiracy I think!

SUBMAN1 · 03-21-07, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by joea

Even the Chinese are capitalist now.

Not even close. They just rewrote the rules so that Communism can win.

Even Putin is on the way back to Communism.

03-21-07, 12:11 PM	#1
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	1963 Communist Goals I said before waay back when the wall came down. All that happened when it fell was the vermon spread out like a virus under the cover of our gloating over victory and freedom. The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963. 1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war 2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war 3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength" 4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war. 5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites 6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination 7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN. 8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN 9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress 10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN 11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo) 12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party 13) Do away with loyalty oaths 14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office 15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US 16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights. 17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books. 18) Gain control of all student newspapers 19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack. 20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions. 21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures. 22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms. 23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art". 24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. 26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy". 27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch" 28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state" 29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis. 30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man". 31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over. 32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc. 33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus. 34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities. 35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI 36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions. 37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business 38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat. 39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals. 40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents. 42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems. 43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government. 44) Internationalize the Panama Canal. 45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

03-21-07, 01:27 PM	#3
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sad but true. And they are winning. John Kerry last year even wanted us to move our powers to the UN - a very corrupt UN. -S __________________

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I don't understand what you are saying...... This is a list of what Albert Herlong, Jr. thought where communist goals right? Who/what where his sources for the list? __________________

03-21-07, 02:40 PM	#9
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Just for fun lets see how they did: 1) Coexistence: Partial success 2) Capitulate: Fail 3) "moral strength": Fail 4) Free trade: Partial success 5) Loans: Partial success 6) American aid: Mainly failed 7) Recognition of China and UN: Total success 8) East and West Germany: Total Fail 9) Prolong the atomic conferences: I don't know 10) Representation in the UN: Partial success 11) One world government: Fail 12) Resist outlaw the Communist Party: Success 13) Do away with loyalty oaths: Partial success in some places 14) Access to the US Patent Office: Total success, it's even on google patents now! 15) Capture political parties: Fail 16) Civil rights abuse: Fail ASAIK 17) Get control of the schools: Fail AFAIK 18) Student newspapers: dont know/Highly subjective 19) Student riots: Dont Know 20) Infiltrate the press. Dont Know 21) TV: Dont Know 22) Degrading all form of art: dont know/Highly subjective 23) Control art critics dont know/Highly subjective 24) Eliminate "censorship": Partial success 25) Promoting pornography: Success 26) Homosexuality "normal, natural, and healthy": Partial success 27) Discredit the Bible: Partial success 28) Eliminate prayer in schools: Partial success in places 29) Discredit the American Constitution: Mostly a Fail 30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Fail 31) Belittle all forms of American culture: Fail 32) Centralized welfare: Mostly failed(?) 33) Eliminate laws which interfere w. Communist: Fail (?) 34) Eliminate Committee on Un-American Activities. dont know 35) Dismantle the FBI: Fail 36) Gain control of more unions: Fail ASAIK 37) Infiltrate big business: Fail ASAIK 38) Powers of arrest to social agencies. dont know 39) Dominate the psychiatric profession: Fail AFAIK 40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce. 41) raise children away from parents: Fail 42) violence is American tradition: Fail 43) Overthrow all colonial governments dont know 44) Internationalize the Panama Canal. dont know (although I should) 45) Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike. dont know (although I should) __________________

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joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Communism is finished, can't you Yanks get your heads out of the Cold War. If the commies won, why the hell did the USSR and Yugoslavia collapse into chaos and in some cases bloodshed. Even the Chinese are capitalist now.