Need FaT advice...

Herr Russ · 03-21-07, 09:00 AM

Here's the deal.. Playing patched Vanilla.. Current boat IXC3..

I'm ideally situated North of a Huge convoy traveling right towards me at 9 kts. The 4 bow tubes have 2 electrics & 2 FaT's loaded.. Internal spares are 2 steamers, 2 electrics & 2 FaT's I believe.. Not sure of the total amount, but all internal spares are full.. My Torpedo room is fully manned & has a solid green bar.. No eels left in the stern.

Escorts (5) are a Hunt 3, River Escort, Flower Corvette, Black Swan & a Clemsen..

Misc. merchants, tankers, liberty cargos & a troop ship make up the columns..

I've run this convoy twice and both times have gotten the snot knocked out of me.. (Not playing DiD).. The best I managed to do with 5 shots (1 reload) was to sink the Swan & Liberty Cargo and crippled the troop ship and a T3.. The other escorts basically pinged me & blew me out of the water.. The Swan caught a FaT running a pattern but had totally destroyed both scopes & conning tower by then..

How do you set the dials on the FaT's, especially the first initial run dial.. Is it set for distance or time??

Should I fire the FaT's first & then the other fish??

Can you pull a torpedo out & replace it with another kind, if you don't have an open spare slot??

I'm toying with the idea of taking on the escorts first with the electrics & then fire the FaT's towards the remaining escorts & hope to hit them or take out a cargo ship when they run their ladder pattern.. I usually fire my fish, dive deep & try to evade while reloading my tubes..

Any advice would be helpful.. Thanks!!

Herr Russ · 03-22-07, 09:14 AM

Finally figured the FaT's out.. Thanks for the help

Still having problems w/ the escorts. I don't see how they can still detect me while I'm 190 meters down, silent running & they're making DC runs... Finally dodged them with knuckles & decoys.. Currently on the surface, pulling in my last bow external and heading back towards the two crippled Liberty Cargo's (Last save).. Played ahead last night & found a black swan heading in my direction.. Think I need to send a FaT her way

Keelbuster · 03-22-07, 11:49 AM

Let me guess - it's perfectly calm sea? In these conditions, depth doesn't help you. They can find you with active sonar. You need to get distance. I'd stay at PD, or damn close (~40m). This way you can see your attacker (or at least his keel), and you can make the critical evasion move at the right time. Then flank to escape. You need a good flank run and then drop silent, with a short silhouette (show him your baffles) and you might just get away. Use decoys during the flank run if you have them.

Part 2 - is it >1943? If so, you might not want to get close to the convoy. This is what FaTs are for. You launch them in from a safe distance, and the pattern-running makes up for your crappy Target Motion Analysis and accumulated error over distance. In 44 I wouldn't go into a convoy in still water - you'll be busted for sure. In that case I stay at the periphery and fire in all 6 in pattern running, or acoustic homing, etc. Just fire and forget, and get away alive. DiD.

Herr Russ · 03-22-07, 01:10 PM

Thanks,

You nailed it right on the head.. It's 1943 & a very calm night..

Since I had almost an hour to get into position, I went way off of the starboard flank and worked my way closer.. I usually like to get in within 1000 meters, but this time fired all tubes from about 3K yards. Just at about max range for my electrics.. I then turned tail & got out of there before the fireworks started.. I had 3 out of 4 impacts so that wasn't too bad. I just need to get home tonight and deal with that black swan since she's keeping me from claiming 2 crippled liberty cargos..

Penelope_Grey · 03-22-07, 01:27 PM

hmm.. fat advice, the only things I can recommend is a good diet and some moderate regular exercise. Nothing sorts fat out quite like it.

Keelbuster · 03-22-07, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr Russ

I had 3 out of 4 impacts so that wasn't too bad. I just need to get home tonight and deal with that black swan since she's keeping me from claiming 2 crippled liberty cargos..

atta boy

Corsair · 03-22-07, 02:59 PM

Pfff... don't tell me about Black Swans, just out of two hours of pounding by two of the buggers before they had to catch up with their convoy... nasty things they are...

that was a sweat to get out alive... each 4 K gun and 2 racks, you can wait a while before they run out of cans...

03-21-07, 09:00 AM	#1
Herr Russ Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, CA. Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Need FaT advice... Here's the deal.. Playing patched Vanilla.. Current boat IXC3.. I'm ideally situated North of a Huge convoy traveling right towards me at 9 kts. The 4 bow tubes have 2 electrics & 2 FaT's loaded.. Internal spares are 2 steamers, 2 electrics & 2 FaT's I believe.. Not sure of the total amount, but all internal spares are full.. My Torpedo room is fully manned & has a solid green bar.. No eels left in the stern. Escorts (5) are a Hunt 3, River Escort, Flower Corvette, Black Swan & a Clemsen.. Misc. merchants, tankers, liberty cargos & a troop ship make up the columns.. I've run this convoy twice and both times have gotten the snot knocked out of me.. (Not playing DiD).. The best I managed to do with 5 shots (1 reload) was to sink the Swan & Liberty Cargo and crippled the troop ship and a T3.. The other escorts basically pinged me & blew me out of the water.. The Swan caught a FaT running a pattern but had totally destroyed both scopes & conning tower by then.. How do you set the dials on the FaT's, especially the first initial run dial.. Is it set for distance or time?? Should I fire the FaT's first & then the other fish?? Can you pull a torpedo out & replace it with another kind, if you don't have an open spare slot?? I'm toying with the idea of taking on the escorts first with the electrics & then fire the FaT's towards the remaining escorts & hope to hit them or take out a cargo ship when they run their ladder pattern.. I usually fire my fish, dive deep & try to evade while reloading my tubes.. Any advice would be helpful.. Thanks!!

03-22-07, 11:49 AM	#3
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Let me guess - it's perfectly calm sea? In these conditions, depth doesn't help you. They can find you with active sonar. You need to get distance. I'd stay at PD, or damn close (~40m). This way you can see your attacker (or at least his keel), and you can make the critical evasion move at the right time. Then flank to escape. You need a good flank run and then drop silent, with a short silhouette (show him your baffles) and you might just get away. Use decoys during the flank run if you have them. Part 2 - is it >1943? If so, you might not want to get close to the convoy. This is what FaTs are for. You launch them in from a safe distance, and the pattern-running makes up for your crappy Target Motion Analysis and accumulated error over distance. In 44 I wouldn't go into a convoy in still water - you'll be busted for sure. In that case I stay at the periphery and fire in all 6 in pattern running, or acoustic homing, etc. Just fire and forget, and get away alive. DiD. __________________

03-22-07, 01:27 PM	#5
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	hmm.. fat advice, the only things I can recommend is a good diet and some moderate regular exercise. Nothing sorts fat out quite like it. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

03-22-07, 02:59 PM	#7
Corsair Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Toulouse France Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Pfff... don't tell me about Black Swans, just out of two hours of pounding by two of the buggers before they had to catch up with their convoy... nasty things they are... that was a sweat to get out alive... each 4 K gun and 2 racks, you can wait a while before they run out of cans... __________________ NYGM 3.4A / Living SH3 V5.1 + SH3 Commander

03-22-07, 09:14 AM	#2
Herr Russ Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, CA. Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Finally figured the FaT's out.. Thanks for the help Still having problems w/ the escorts. I don't see how they can still detect me while I'm 190 meters down, silent running & they're making DC runs... Finally dodged them with knuckles & decoys.. Currently on the surface, pulling in my last bow external and heading back towards the two crippled Liberty Cargo's (Last save).. Played ahead last night & found a black swan heading in my direction.. Think I need to send a FaT her way

03-22-07, 01:10 PM	#4
Herr Russ Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, CA. Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thanks, You nailed it right on the head.. It's 1943 & a very calm night.. Since I had almost an hour to get into position, I went way off of the starboard flank and worked my way closer.. I usually like to get in within 1000 meters, but this time fired all tubes from about 3K yards. Just at about max range for my electrics.. I then turned tail & got out of there before the fireworks started.. I had 3 out of 4 impacts so that wasn't too bad. I just need to get home tonight and deal with that black swan since she's keeping me from claiming 2 crippled liberty cargos..