Added English to German Word Lookup

kkentopanga · 02-26-07, 01:33 PM

For those of you who may like to use German words for some realism in you postings and logs I have added a English/German word page to the below web site. I would appreciate it if a German speaking member of the forum would take a look at the page and let me know how bad I butcherd the language.
I have to admit that being at sea for three weeks and only seeing porpuses at 1xTC was to much for me and my crew. To keep them from throwing me overboard I had to Increas TC to give them some action. After changing to higher TC the honorable thing to do was to go back to my web site and change the name from 1 TC group to The Silent Hunter group.
I also added Lt z.s. Gunter Lassak to the memorial list His U-346 was lost in Grid BF27. Last message was under attack while surfaced and crash diving -Presumed lost Feb. 7, 1941. Please. if you know of a lost U-Boot go to the data section of the web site and let me know

hyperion2206 · 02-26-07, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kkentopanga

For those of you who may like to use German words for some realism in you postings and logs I have added a English/German word page to the below web site. I would appreciate it if a German speaking member of the forum would take a look at the page and let me know how bad I butcherd the language.
I have to admit that being at sea for three weeks and only seeing porpuses at 1xTC was to much for me and my crew. To keep them from throwing me overboard I had to Increas TC to give them some action. After changing to higher TC the honorable thing to do was to go back to my web site and change the name from 1 TC group to The Silent Hunter group.
I also added Lt z.s. Gunter Lassak to the memorial list His U-346 was lost in Grid BF27. Last message was under attack while surfaced and crash diving -Presumed lost Feb. 7, 1941. Please. if you know of a lost U-Boot go to the data section of the web site and let me know

Here are some 'errors':
aircraft= Flugzeug (Fluggerät is quite antique)
armed=bewaffnet
bow=in this case it's 'Bug'
captain=Kapitän (Hauptmann would be the army rank)
convoy=Geleitzug
deck=Deck
mates=Kameraden
merchant=Frachtschiff
sonar=Sonar

I think the rest is OK.

Boris · 02-26-07, 04:26 PM

Seeing as the term sonar hadn't even been coined in WW2 I don't think...

The correct term would be "Echolot"

Also

Port - Hafen (in the case of a harbour)
Port - Backbord (as in port side of the ship)
Torpedo - Torpedo (Torpedieren refers of the act 'to torpedo')
Choppy - Bewegte See (if referring to choppy seas)
Damage - Schaden (singular) Schäden (plural)
Submerged - Getaucht
Grid - Planquadrat (Gitter means grate)

If you're going to use German words, it's best to stick to nouns, as verbs and adjectives change according to context.

hyperion2206 · 02-26-07, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Seeing as the term sonar hadn't even been coined in WW2 I don't think...

The correct term would be "Echolot"

Also

Port - Hafen (in the case of a harbour)
Port - Backbord (as in port side of the ship)
Torpedo - Torpedo (Torpedieren refers of the act 'to torpedo')
Choppy - Bewegte See (if referring to choppy seas)
Damage - Schaden (singular) Schäden (plural)
Submerged - Getaucht
Grid - Planquadrat (Gitter means grate)

If you're going to use German words, it's best to stick to nouns, as verbs and adjectives change according to context.

The word Sonar is an American term first used in World War II, it is an acronym for SOund, NAvigation and Ranging. The British also call Sonar, ASDICS, which stands for Anti-Submarine Detection Investigation Committee.

You can say "Gitter" as well IMHO, althoug Planquadrat is more accurate.

EDIT:
sunk=gesunken (NOT: abgesackt)
submerged=getaucht

Sailor Steve · 02-26-07, 05:37 PM

Thanks, hyperion, those are a help. I do have one question, though:

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Originally Posted by hyperion2206

merchant=Frachtschiff

If that's true, then what is the "Handelschiffe" they use in the ID book?

bigboywooly · 02-26-07, 06:02 PM

My crew use Frachter for merchant ?

Mr.Fleck · 02-26-07, 06:11 PM

Hello Sailor Steve,

in my understanding "Handelsschiff" (Plural: "Handelsschiffe") is a more general term. "Frachtschiff" (Plural: "Frachtschiffe") or short "Frachter" is more specific and describes ships which transport cargo or freight. Actually a Tanker can also be a "Handelsschiff" if the Tanker is part of the merchant fleet ("Handelsflotte"), at least according to wikipedia.

Therefore I would say "Frachter" would be more correct, but "Handelsschiff" is understandable enough.

Hope I haven't confused you too much!
Mr. Fleck

Sailor Steve · 02-26-07, 06:21 PM

No, actually that clears up a lot. Now that I think of it, I see the connection:
Frachtschiff=Freight Ship
Frachter=Freighter
Handelschiff=Handle Ship, or Cargo Ship in general

Thanks

Deep-Six · 02-26-07, 09:44 PM

I found one:

South= Sud
Thanks= Danke
East= Ost
West= West

I will go through the others and see.

Henri II · 02-27-07, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Seeing as the term sonar hadn't even been coined in WW2 I don't think...

The correct term would be "Echolot"

Not really, an echolot, as the name implies, is a depth sounder which operates somewhat simmilar to the ASDIC. The german word for (passive) sonar would be Hydrophon or perhaps Horchgerät. I'm not sure what the official term used by the Kriegsmarine was.

hyperion2206 · 02-27-07, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Thanks, hyperion, those are a help. I do have one question, though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

merchant=Frachtschiff

If that's true, then what is the "Handelschiffe" they use in the ID book?

'Handelsschiff' is right as well, didn't think of that word.

hyperion2206 · 02-27-07, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deep-Six

I found one:

South= Sud
Thanks= Danke
East= Ost
West= West

I will go through the others and see.

South (noun)='Süden'
East (noun)='Osten'
West (noun)='Westen'

Woof1701 · 02-27-07, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henri II

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Seeing as the term sonar hadn't even been coined in WW2 I don't think...

The correct term would be "Echolot"

Not really, an echolot, as the name implies, is a depth sounder which operates somewhat simmilar to the ASDIC. The german word for (passive) sonar would be Hydrophon or perhaps Horchgerät. I'm not sure what the official term used by the Kriegsmarine was.

In general imported words from other languages were not desired in Nazi Germany in order to keep the language pure and not "pollute" it with anglicisms, like it is done today. So a "hydrophone" would have been officially a "Hochgerät", a "convoy" was a "Geleitzug" or just "Geleit".
BUT ASDIC remained ASDIC, and radar remainded radar, because there were no German words for that.
Correction: Just found out that "radar" was sometimes called "Funkmessgerät" by the Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe and Wehrmacht when they referred to their OWN devices. Sorry for the mixup.

Woof1701 · 02-27-07, 08:01 AM

Let's go into a little more detail, shall we? Since I studied the stuff I'm in my element

demise: (der) Untergang (figuratively), (der) Niedergang
(the) sinking: (der) Untergang
to sink: sinken (the ship is sinking: Das Schiff sinkt)
to sink: versenken (the ship was sunk: Das Schiff wurde versenkt)
flood (noun): (die) Flut
to flood (verb): fluten
flooded: geflutet
evening: (der) Abend (nouns always with capital letters in German)
home: (das) Heim/Eigenheim (means a house, or one's own house)
to go home: nach Hause fahren/gehen
homeland: (das) Vaterland (especially in wartime)
land: (das) Land (Boden is more like the soil you plant crops on)
to land: anlegen (nautical) landen (air and nautical)
lost: verloren
patrol: (die) Feindfahrt (especially with uboats)
periscope: (das) Sehrohr (Periskop was an angicism and is used today but wasn't used much in WW2)
submerged (condition): getaucht
the boat was submerged: Das Boot war getaucht
to submerge (verb): tauchen
the boat submerged: Das Boot tauchte
he/it submerged: er/es tauchte unter
sunk: gesunken (emphasis on the fact that it's no longer floating. Could also have sunk due to bad weather or faulty welding)
sunk: versenkt (emphasis on the fact that someone helped a little getting the ship below the water)
(water) surface: (die) Wasseroberfläche / (die) Oberfläche
to surface: auftauchen
the boat surfaced: Das Boot tauchte auf
the boat was surfaced: Das Boot war aufgetaucht
torpedo: Torpedo (slang: Aal)
to torpedo: torpedieren
American: Amerikaner (people) amerikanisch (from America)
Italian: Italiener (people) italienisch (from Italy)
British: Briten (people) britisch (from Britain)
English: Engländer (people) englisch (from England)
Atlantic: (der) Atlantik / (der) Atlantische Ozean
bottom (of the sea): (der) Meeresboden
down (direction): nach unten ("abwärts" is also possible, but I don't like it much)
down (location): unten (down on the bottom of the sea: unten auf dem Meeresboden)
*Edit*
Ignore that:
to go down (uboats): tauchen
probably more correct would be:
to go down (uboats / ships): sinken / absaufen
*Edit*
Best German - English database I know can be found at http://dict.leo.org

Henri II · 02-27-07, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woof1701

Let's go into a little more detail, shall we? Since I studied the stuff I'm in my element

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to go down (uboats): tauchen

Best German - English database I know can be found at http://dict.leo.org

Sorry to nitpick, but when applied to ships (and probably u-boats) "to go down" usually means "untergehen" or "sinken".
Tauchen would be just "to dive" or "to submerge".

02-26-07, 01:33 PM	#1
kkentopanga Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Roseville CA Posts: 102 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Added English to German Word Lookup For those of you who may like to use German words for some realism in you postings and logs I have added a English/German word page to the below web site. I would appreciate it if a German speaking member of the forum would take a look at the page and let me know how bad I butcherd the language. I have to admit that being at sea for three weeks and only seeing porpuses at 1xTC was to much for me and my crew. To keep them from throwing me overboard I had to Increas TC to give them some action. After changing to higher TC the honorable thing to do was to go back to my web site and change the name from 1 TC group to The Silent Hunter group. I also added Lt z.s. Gunter Lassak to the memorial list His U-346 was lost in Grid BF27. Last message was under attack while surfaced and crash diving -Presumed lost Feb. 7, 1941. Please. if you know of a lost U-Boot go to the data section of the web site and let me know

02-26-07, 04:26 PM	#3
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Seeing as the term sonar hadn't even been coined in WW2 I don't think... The correct term would be "Echolot" Also Port - Hafen (in the case of a harbour) Port - Backbord (as in port side of the ship) Torpedo - Torpedo (Torpedieren refers of the act 'to torpedo') Choppy - Bewegte See (if referring to choppy seas) Damage - Schaden (singular) Schäden (plural) Submerged - Getaucht Grid - Planquadrat (Gitter means grate) If you're going to use German words, it's best to stick to nouns, as verbs and adjectives change according to context. Last edited by Boris; 02-26-07 at 04:37 PM.

02-26-07, 06:02 PM	#6
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	My crew use Frachter for merchant ? __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

02-26-07, 06:11 PM	#7
Mr.Fleck Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 197 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hello Sailor Steve, in my understanding "Handelsschiff" (Plural: "Handelsschiffe") is a more general term. "Frachtschiff" (Plural: "Frachtschiffe") or short "Frachter" is more specific and describes ships which transport cargo or freight. Actually a Tanker can also be a "Handelsschiff" if the Tanker is part of the merchant fleet ("Handelsflotte"), at least according to wikipedia. Therefore I would say "Frachter" would be more correct, but "Handelsschiff" is understandable enough. Hope I haven't confused you too much! Mr. Fleck __________________ Newest addition: "Fate": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-aoj-kWazs

02-26-07, 06:21 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	No, actually that clears up a lot. Now that I think of it, I see the connection: Frachtschiff=Freight Ship Frachter=Freighter Handelschiff=Handle Ship, or Cargo Ship in general Thanks __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-26-07, 09:44 PM	#9
Deep-Six Sonar Guy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 399 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I found one: South= Sud Thanks= Danke East= Ost West= West I will go through the others and see. __________________

02-27-07, 08:01 AM	#14
Woof1701 Commodore Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Munich, Germany, Home of U-96 Posts: 633 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Let's go into a little more detail, shall we? Since I studied the stuff I'm in my element demise: (der) Untergang (figuratively), (der) Niedergang (the) sinking: (der) Untergang to sink: sinken (the ship is sinking: Das Schiff sinkt) to sink: versenken (the ship was sunk: Das Schiff wurde versenkt) flood (noun): (die) Flut to flood (verb): fluten flooded: geflutet evening: (der) Abend (nouns always with capital letters in German) home: (das) Heim/Eigenheim (means a house, or one's own house) to go home: nach Hause fahren/gehen homeland: (das) Vaterland (especially in wartime) land: (das) Land (Boden is more like the soil you plant crops on) to land: anlegen (nautical) landen (air and nautical) lost: verloren patrol: (die) Feindfahrt (especially with uboats) periscope: (das) Sehrohr (Periskop was an angicism and is used today but wasn't used much in WW2) submerged (condition): getaucht the boat was submerged: Das Boot war getaucht to submerge (verb): tauchen the boat submerged: Das Boot tauchte he/it submerged: er/es tauchte unter sunk: gesunken (emphasis on the fact that it's no longer floating. Could also have sunk due to bad weather or faulty welding) sunk: versenkt (emphasis on the fact that someone helped a little getting the ship below the water) (water) surface: (die) Wasseroberfläche / (die) Oberfläche to surface: auftauchen the boat surfaced: Das Boot tauchte auf the boat was surfaced: Das Boot war aufgetaucht torpedo: Torpedo (slang: Aal) to torpedo: torpedieren American: Amerikaner (people) amerikanisch (from America) Italian: Italiener (people) italienisch (from Italy) British: Briten (people) britisch (from Britain) English: Engländer (people) englisch (from England) Atlantic: (der) Atlantik / (der) Atlantische Ozean bottom (of the sea): (der) Meeresboden down (direction): nach unten ("abwärts" is also possible, but I don't like it much) down (location): unten (down on the bottom of the sea: unten auf dem Meeresboden) Edit Ignore that: to go down (uboats): tauchen probably more correct would be: to go down (uboats / ships): sinken / absaufen Edit Best German - English database I know can be found at http://dict.leo.org Last edited by Woof1701; 02-27-07 at 12:03 PM.