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Old 01-16-07, 02:12 PM   #1
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Default Is the United States gearing up for an attack on Iran?



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The deployment of a second U.S. aircraft carrier to the Persian Gulf has analysts speculating that President Bush means to stop Tehran's nuclear ambitions by force if necessary.

The USS John C. Stennis was scheduled to sail Tuesday from its homeport of
Bremerton, Washington. When the second carrrier arrives in the Middle East next month, this will be the first time since the U.S.-led Iraq invasion in 2003 that the United States will have two carrier battle groups in the region, according to a U.S. Navy official.

The increase in U.S. forces is a show of strength by Washington in the face of Iran's growing regional assertiveness and a perception among U.S. adversaries that the United States is vulnerable in Iraq, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Monday.
Here's a link to more of the same article, but it says we have thirty
(30) days till the USS Stennis gets on station.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119590


At least that's after the playoffs, super bowl and the pro bowl.
They can do anything they want after that ...
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Old 01-16-07, 02:19 PM   #2
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geetrue, please check your PM.
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Old 01-16-07, 02:30 PM   #3
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Very intresting indeed. :hmm::hmm:
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Old 01-16-07, 02:31 PM   #4
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http://history1900s.about.com/librar...lywwiip185.htm

http://history1900s.about.com/librar.../blywwiip2.htm

http://www.loudfrog.com/itemdetail.aspx?detailID=62513

http://www.library.northwestern.edu/.../ww0207-82.jpg

Power Projection. Ahmadinejad is like a Barbary pirate. Show strength, they cower and comply. Show weakness and they leap forward out of their toothpick castles. Draw the line, watch him shake his legs and pee himself.
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Old 01-17-07, 05:50 AM   #5
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I wonder if The US has come to the same conclusion as I have.

Peace In the middle east? then erase Syria and Iran and put a stronghold on Saudia-Arabia, Egypt and Jemen.

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Old 01-17-07, 05:58 AM   #6
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I wonder if The US has come to the same conclusion as I have.

Peace In the middle east? then erase Syria and Iran and put a stronghold on Saudia-Arabia, Egypt and Jemen.

Markus
Probably not... we got certain folks over here whining and starting all kinds of peace marches ...60's stuff

I think soon we will cave in and let the terrorist have their way.
Yes I said TERRORIST... what else would you call a Muslim country with Nukes?
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Old 01-17-07, 07:02 AM   #7
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hmmm. you know i jumped to this conclusion myself after reading that the yanks have sent another carrier to the middle east...
i think somethings going on but we'll have to wait and see if something happens.
if it does i think it'll be conventional weapons v's irans enrichment sites. better that then israel nuking them with dirty bombs.
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Old 01-17-07, 07:14 AM   #8
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They claim a drone shot down.

http://www.thememriblog.org/
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Old 01-17-07, 10:16 AM   #9
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It's a display of military might. So far, thats all it is. Hopefully, thats all it will have to be.
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Old 01-17-07, 07:27 PM   #10
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They claim a drone shot down.

http://www.thememriblog.org/
I looked through that site, yet found no stories relating to this alleged incident?

I think it'll be more than a show of force..
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Old 01-17-07, 09:42 PM   #11
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Hard to tell... I don't know what the hell is Bush thinking... USA has suspected that Iran processed nuclear weapons for ages... Perhaps Bush has got an excuse to attack her
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Old 01-17-07, 09:57 PM   #12
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Well, I've heard a lot of people compare the situation with Iran to the situation with Germany in the 30s. Everyone knew they had to be stopped, but no one did anything until it was almost too late.

I don't know of anything good or helpful to the rest of the world that's coming out of Iran, and we have to worry about our interests.
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Old 01-17-07, 10:05 PM   #13
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thats just the thing mate, you've said it well - iran is just like germany.

History keeps repeating, because people are the same throughout time. we are nasty, vile, destructive things. because basic human nature doesnt change throughout the ages, history repeats. It happens because we allow ourselves to forget the past lessons learnt, and so have to learn it again.

Hands up who wants to be the new neville chamberlain???
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Old 01-17-07, 10:31 PM   #14
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I agree with pretty much everything said about the parallels between Germany in the '30s and Iran right now.

That also reminds me of something former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said recently in a speech he gave over here in the US, basically he related a story about meeting a Holocaust survivor and asking him what the biggest lesson the world should have learned from that period was, and the old man said,"When someone says they're going to exterminate you, you should believe them."

That's a pretty simple lesson you'd think, but a lot of people don't want to believe that Iran is serious because we're living in the 21st Century and we're all oh-so-civilized. But the thing is Baggygreen's got it right, we're not so very civilized afterall and such things could definately happen again. The naive belief that a war of extermination could never happen again only makes it even more likely, and perhaps even inevitable unless the world stands up and realises that sometimes people really do mean what they say...even if it's something you really don't want to hear or doesn't fit in with your own view of the modern world.

As for this part...

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Hands up who wants to be the new neville chamberlain???
My money's on these folks.



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Old 01-18-07, 04:06 PM   #15
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A very intersting thought indeed. I belive if are to attack them we should do it soon.
Alsoo could the extra 20,000 troops be for Iran. Time will tell.
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