creating ingame vid

LTD.KUNNINGHAM · 01-10-07, 05:12 PM

hey guys...

i just got a few fair and simple questions..
I love to play the sh3 game that much i want to create a story vid like some of you did...
question is... what program do i use ? (fraps or a better one)
and how to create the music within the vid.. and text thats used

as example.. i want to begin the storyline with introducing my sub
i play and record it with fraps (as example)
I know that program well.. but what do i have to do after that

-text effects
-music
-end titles

and the biggest probelm of them all.. is there only fraps...or is there more and a better one
i always keep getting stuck with the fraps its settings..

who wants to help me?

elite_hunter_sh3 · 01-10-07, 05:18 PM

first of all welcome to the forum !!!

to do what you are asking of first you need the FULL version of FRAPS pm me for more details on how to get it legit and to do all the things you ask you simply need a computer:p and windows movie maker (which i used for my cod2 videos)

LTD.KUNNINGHAM · 01-10-07, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elite_hunter_sh3

first of all welcome to the forum !!!

to do what you are asking of first you need the FULL version of FRAPS pm me for more details on how to get it legit and to do all the things you ask you simply need a computer:p and windows movie maker (which i used for my cod2 videos)

ive got the full version of fraps... so easy to get it..
and how to create the music and text in the vid?

thx anyway for the rep

kunningham

_Seth_ · 01-10-07, 07:24 PM

Welcome, mate!

First you record the movie segments, then you add music & text with Windows movie maker. The movie maker has an easy "drag & drop" function, where you drag the clips (music or vid) down to the timeline.
I use Ulead video studio, but the basics are the same.

stabiz · 01-10-07, 08:58 PM

Hello, there!

I have been planning to write a bit about this in the video thread, but I`ll take it here in few minutes. (Just did a reinstall of windows, I have been to hell and back today. Always save bookmarks!

)

PS: If any of the GWX beta dudes reads this, please pm me the link to the beta forum :rotfl:

_Seth_ · 01-10-07, 09:16 PM

Stabiz mate, are your computer steam-driven..?:rotfl: It looks like it always have some issues.. I hope you get it up and running ok, mate!

Perhaps you could download a "Bernard-removal tool", cause im sure that bloke is hiding in your comp.!

stabiz · 01-10-07, 10:00 PM

:rotfl:No, not that many issues, just the owner visiting dodgy sites. Anyway, this reinstall was long overdue, since "My Computer" have been showing a floppy drive I didnt have and som other ghosts. Pheww.

LTD.KUNNINGHAM:

This is a sort of guide how to make movies, but remember this is how I do it, not necessarly how it should be done. If you are new to this, it should prove useful anyway, as some of these things took me a while to see.

*An idea. Yes, pretty obvious, but if you know what you want to shoot it is(often) a better end result.

*Record with fraps (or something else, I dont know of any other), but check the "half size" option, and personally I limit the recording to 50fps. Any more are wasted anyway, and just makes the video file bigger than it needs to be. I also always record with sound. It can be muted later anyway, should you want to.

*Always record alot, there is no such thing as too much footage. Just bin useless clips, thats much better than to suddenly be short of footage.

*When you think you have all the footage you need, the real job starts. I use Ulead Videostudio 9 myself, but anything I suggest here can be done with Windows Movie Maker.

*First I import all video files to the editing program. Then I watch every single one, and cut out portions I dont need. (Scissor symbol in Ulead, dont know about WMM) The thing most do "wrong" in movies is to let one scene last forever. I noticed that something as "boring" as a uboat gliding through the water can be much more entertaining for the viewer if you show this from multiple angles, and as a rule of thumb I seldom let a scene last for more than 5 seconds. The reason for this is that even if you are showing the same thing all the time (in this case a uboat), the different angles lets the viewer look at different things, and this keeps the viewer with you.

*Next up is transitions. (the effect between clips) In my opinion special transitions should be kept for special things, and because of this I seldom use any others than the fade option. In my first vids I used all transitions in every single vid, but trust me, this gets annoying after few minutes of watching.

*Okay, now you have a complete video file with transitions, but you are definately not done.

*When adding text, I usually remember to make a long recording of the deep water in sh3, without subs or action. I use this dark ambience shot as background to any text at the start and/or wherever in the video. The text itself is pretty basic, click the appropriate button, type text, place it wherever in the frame, and edit lenght and attributes. (With that I mean how the text behaves, does it fade, etc)

*Finally the most difficult part, but also the single most important part of the vid: Music. A really good video could be boring and let down if the music is wrong. Personally I would like to recommend Hans Zimmer, you cant go wrong with his music. (The last Samurai, Batman Begins, The thin red line, Hannibal, etc)

To get the music to fit I first check how long the intro music has to be. For instance, if the start text, slow uboat footage etc, etc lasts for 1.21, and then the action begins, I try to find something fitting at aprox that length to portrait the mood of the beginning. When its imported, I check if the dramatic parts of the music fits with the video. They rarely do, so the next thing is trimming the video to fit the music. The easiest way to do this is to increase or decrease playback speed of individual shots. (Right click and "playback speed" in Ulead, probably something similar in WMM). You cant dramatically alter playback speed without the viewer noticing, but if that gets to be a problem, just alter speed of two clips. (or three, and so on) This way you video will be longer or shorter, but the music file stays where it is, and thus you can easily adjust to fit the music.

Okay, say this part is done. Now you have 1.21 of finished video. This is how I do it, start with the beginning, and work my way through it.

Lets say you torpedo a merchant at 1.22. Find a track that starts really dramatically, and adjust it in the timeline, so the beginning fits the shot. This way you get a nice effect.

Then you do the adjustments to make the new track fit the rest of the video, just as written above.

*Of course, there are tons more you can do, such as adding video filters and adding external audio (like all the good audio you can find on the das boot soundtrack, or all the brilliant audio hidden in the sounds folder of sh3), zoom, add old film layers, etc

*When done, I usually save the vids in three formats. Small, medium and large. The small one I upload to youtube, the medium one to filefront, and the big one I hide beneath my pillow. :rotfl:When it comes to streaming, keep the file as small as possible. Although f.i youtube allows 100MB files, a file that size will look much more ugly than a 25MB file, due to compression after upload. Personally I save my small vids in 800kbs, and 350x255, or something like that. (Will check) These convert well to streaming sites.

Hope this helps!

Edit: OMG! Long post!

_Seth_ · 01-10-07, 10:21 PM

This is excellent, Stabiz! This should be stickied!

LTD.KUNNINGHAM · 01-11-07, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Seth_

This is excellent, Stabiz! This should be stickied!

i agree with the man... lets say ill try your way and if somethings pops up.. ill ask u what to do if i cant solve the problem ;D

stabiz · 01-11-07, 08:49 AM

Hehe, no need to sticky, just bookmark if you find it useful. Just ask, and I`ll aswer as best as I can.

Have fun!

Von Hinten · 01-11-07, 01:26 PM

Copy > Paste > Save as > 'SHII Movie Making Guide by God'.

I'll keep this one handy and maybe one day ...

Thanks for the crystal clear explanation Stabiz.

mr chris · 01-11-07, 01:48 PM

HHHmmmmm this has got me thinking i might try and see if i can do this:hmm: :hmm:
Thanks for the information Stabiz

Just like you i have lost the addy for the beta forum

LTD.KUNNINGHAM · 01-11-07, 01:59 PM

yea this post is pretty usefull..
the only thing i want to ask.. is were can u host big vids for free..
owyea... i created a tigerprint for my sub...
first shot..and right how i wanted it...

mr chris · 01-11-07, 02:52 PM

Yeah have just purchased Fraps now the fun begins

Thanks one again for the tips

stabiz · 01-11-07, 02:56 PM

No problemo, mates! I hope to see many vids in the near future!

Kunningham, use filefront.com. Its free and lets you upload unlimited amount of files, and they dont go away either.

01-10-07, 05:12 PM	#1
LTD.KUNNINGHAM Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 91 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	creating ingame vid hey guys... i just got a few fair and simple questions.. I love to play the sh3 game that much i want to create a story vid like some of you did... question is... what program do i use ? (fraps or a better one) and how to create the music within the vid.. and text thats used as example.. i want to begin the storyline with introducing my sub i play and record it with fraps (as example) I know that program well.. but what do i have to do after that -text effects -music -end titles and the biggest probelm of them all.. is there only fraps...or is there more and a better one i always keep getting stuck with the fraps its settings.. who wants to help me?

01-10-07, 07:24 PM	#4
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Welcome, mate! First you record the movie segments, then you add music & text with Windows movie maker. The movie maker has an easy "drag & drop" function, where you drag the clips (music or vid) down to the timeline. I use Ulead video studio, but the basics are the same. __________________

01-10-07, 08:58 PM	#5
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Hello, there! I have been planning to write a bit about this in the video thread, but I`ll take it here in few minutes. (Just did a reinstall of windows, I have been to hell and back today. Always save bookmarks! ) PS: If any of the GWX beta dudes reads this, please pm me the link to the beta forum :rotfl: __________________

01-10-07, 09:16 PM	#6
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	Stabiz mate, are your computer steam-driven..?:rotfl: It looks like it always have some issues.. I hope you get it up and running ok, mate! Perhaps you could download a "Bernard-removal tool", cause im sure that bloke is hiding in your comp.! __________________

01-10-07, 10:00 PM	#7
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	:rotfl:No, not that many issues, just the owner visiting dodgy sites. Anyway, this reinstall was long overdue, since "My Computer" have been showing a floppy drive I didnt have and som other ghosts. Pheww. LTD.KUNNINGHAM: This is a sort of guide how to make movies, but remember this is how I do it, not necessarly how it should be done. If you are new to this, it should prove useful anyway, as some of these things took me a while to see. An idea. Yes, pretty obvious, but if you know what you want to shoot it is(often) a better end result. Record with fraps (or something else, I dont know of any other), but check the "half size" option, and personally I limit the recording to 50fps. Any more are wasted anyway, and just makes the video file bigger than it needs to be. I also always record with sound. It can be muted later anyway, should you want to. Always record alot, there is no such thing as too much footage. Just bin useless clips, thats much better than to suddenly be short of footage. When you think you have all the footage you need, the real job starts. I use Ulead Videostudio 9 myself, but anything I suggest here can be done with Windows Movie Maker. First I import all video files to the editing program. Then I watch every single one, and cut out portions I dont need. (Scissor symbol in Ulead, dont know about WMM) The thing most do "wrong" in movies is to let one scene last forever. I noticed that something as "boring" as a uboat gliding through the water can be much more entertaining for the viewer if you show this from multiple angles, and as a rule of thumb I seldom let a scene last for more than 5 seconds. The reason for this is that even if you are showing the same thing all the time (in this case a uboat), the different angles lets the viewer look at different things, and this keeps the viewer with you. Next up is transitions. (the effect between clips) In my opinion special transitions should be kept for special things, and because of this I seldom use any others than the fade option. In my first vids I used all transitions in every single vid, but trust me, this gets annoying after few minutes of watching. Okay, now you have a complete video file with transitions, but you are definately not done. When adding text, I usually remember to make a long recording of the deep water in sh3, without subs or action. I use this dark ambience shot as background to any text at the start and/or wherever in the video. The text itself is pretty basic, click the appropriate button, type text, place it wherever in the frame, and edit lenght and attributes. (With that I mean how the text behaves, does it fade, etc) Finally the most difficult part, but also the single most important part of the vid: Music. A really good video could be boring and let down if the music is wrong. Personally I would like to recommend Hans Zimmer, you cant go wrong with his music. (The last Samurai, Batman Begins, The thin red line, Hannibal, etc) To get the music to fit I first check how long the intro music has to be. For instance, if the start text, slow uboat footage etc, etc lasts for 1.21, and then the action begins, I try to find something fitting at aprox that length to portrait the mood of the beginning. When its imported, I check if the dramatic parts of the music fits with the video. They rarely do, so the next thing is trimming the video to fit the music. The easiest way to do this is to increase or decrease playback speed of individual shots. (Right click and "playback speed" in Ulead, probably something similar in WMM). You cant dramatically alter playback speed without the viewer noticing, but if that gets to be a problem, just alter speed of two clips. (or three, and so on) This way you video will be longer or shorter, but the music file stays where it is, and thus you can easily adjust to fit the music. Okay, say this part is done. Now you have 1.21 of finished video. This is how I do it, start with the beginning, and work my way through it. Lets say you torpedo a merchant at 1.22. Find a track that starts really dramatically, and adjust it in the timeline, so the beginning fits the shot. This way you get a nice effect. Then you do the adjustments to make the new track fit the rest of the video, just as written above. Of course, there are tons more you can do, such as adding video filters and adding external audio (like all the good audio you can find on the das boot soundtrack, or all the brilliant audio hidden in the sounds folder of sh3), zoom, add old film layers, etc *When done, I usually save the vids in three formats. Small, medium and large. The small one I upload to youtube, the medium one to filefront, and the big one I hide beneath my pillow. :rotfl:When it comes to streaming, keep the file as small as possible. Although f.i youtube allows 100MB files, a file that size will look much more ugly than a 25MB file, due to compression after upload. Personally I save my small vids in 800kbs, and 350x255, or something like that. (Will check) These convert well to streaming sites. Hope this helps! Edit: OMG! Long post! __________________

01-10-07, 05:18 PM	#2
elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	first of all welcome to the forum !!! to do what you are asking of first you need the FULL version of FRAPS pm me for more details on how to get it legit and to do all the things you ask you simply need a computer:p and windows movie maker (which i used for my cod2 videos)

01-10-07, 10:21 PM	#8
_Seth_ Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In Tromsoe, @Tirpitz' final resting place.. Posts: 3,277 Downloads: 94 Uploads: 0	This is excellent, Stabiz! This should be stickied! __________________

01-11-07, 08:49 AM	#10
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Hehe, no need to sticky, just bookmark if you find it useful. Just ask, and I`ll aswer as best as I can. Have fun! __________________

01-11-07, 01:26 PM	#11
Von Hinten Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 466 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	Copy > Paste > Save as > 'SHII Movie Making Guide by God'. I'll keep this one handy and maybe one day ... Thanks for the crystal clear explanation Stabiz. __________________ Regardz, Von Hinten UC3 Nautilus' engineer for 45 minutes!

01-11-07, 01:48 PM	#12
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	HHHmmmmm this has got me thinking i might try and see if i can do this:hmm: :hmm: Thanks for the information Stabiz Just like you i have lost the addy for the beta forum __________________

01-11-07, 01:59 PM	#13
LTD.KUNNINGHAM Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 91 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	yea this post is pretty usefull.. the only thing i want to ask.. is were can u host big vids for free.. owyea... i created a tigerprint for my sub... first shot..and right how i wanted it...

01-11-07, 02:52 PM	#14
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Yeah have just purchased Fraps now the fun begins Thanks one again for the tips __________________

01-11-07, 02:56 PM	#15
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	No problemo, mates! I hope to see many vids in the near future! Kunningham, use filefront.com. Its free and lets you upload unlimited amount of files, and they dont go away either. __________________