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Old 12-30-06, 05:14 PM   #1
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Default Compressed Air In Game?

I know what it does in the real world but does it have any meaning in the game? Do torpedos use it for launch? I can change depth without it.
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Old 12-30-06, 05:15 PM   #2
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Old 12-30-06, 05:21 PM   #3
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Nevermind....did a search.
Hardcoded.....not used....
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Old 12-30-06, 05:25 PM   #4
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isnt it used to change depth when not sailing ?
and blowing ballast ?
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Old 12-30-06, 05:43 PM   #5
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I guess we could simulate its use in the game by using it EVERYTIME when we want to surface. The discipline is saying that you cannot surface if it reads zero.

Its the only thing I can think of.
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Old 12-30-06, 06:13 PM   #6
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I remember SH1 . every change of depth consumes compressed air , and more blow ballast.

so , it was very important don´t expend a lot of air or you are death
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Old 12-31-06, 05:45 PM   #7
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In SHII you couldn't surface if your compressed air was used up. In actuality the dive planes can get you to the surface and keep you there, or else you could never run decks awash. Once the deck is on the surface you can run the diesels and start recharging the compressed air, then blow out the tanks and surface for real.
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Old 12-31-06, 05:49 PM   #8
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In SHII you couldn't surface if your compressed air was used up. In actuality the dive planes can get you to the surface and keep you there, or else you could never run decks awash. Once the deck is on the surface you can run the diesels and start recharging the compressed air, then blow out the tanks and surface for real.
I'm not sure if just the engines and dive planes alone could get you back up if all the ballast and negative tanks were fully flooded. But, yes, if they weren't then the engines and planes could get you up and keep you up, long enough for the compressors to recharge the air tanks . . . assuming your compressor's not destroyed!
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In SHII you couldn't surface if your compressed air was used up. In actuality the dive planes can get you to the surface and keep you there, or else you could never run decks awash. Once the deck is on the surface you can run the diesels and start recharging the compressed air, then blow out the tanks and surface for real.
I'm not sure if just the engines and dive planes alone could get you back up if all the ballast and negative tanks were fully flooded. But, yes, if they weren't then the engines and planes could get you up and keep you up, long enough for the compressors to recharge the air tanks . . . assuming your compressor's not destroyed!
Even then, it was common to run the diesel exhaust into the ballast tanks. It saved on compressed air, and the diesel fumes still contained some oil, which had an anti-corrosive effect on the inside of the tanks.

I'm not sure if I read it being done by US boats or German, but I know it did happen on one side or the other (or both).

Now, if you had a destroyed compressor, you pretty much were screwed because you really couldn't dive safely unless you had full tanks of compressed air. Even then, you could probably only dive once. You'd have to go on the surface.

Alternatively, you could trim for decks awash, and dive dynamically using the planes, but that assumes you can maintain a decent forward speed. Creeping at 50 rpms probably isn't going to keep you down very well
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Old 12-31-06, 08:35 PM   #10
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Even then, it was common to run the diesel exhaust into the ballast tanks. It saved on compressed air, and the diesel fumes still contained some oil, which had an anti-corrosive effect on the inside of the tanks.
I believe I remember reading somewhere that U-boats did indeed use this tactic.
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