Request help with adding new nations

[Redbear]

I'd appreciate some help from the experts out there. I have been experimenting with adding traffic for nations not in the original SH3. I installed the flag.dat file from the nationality mod, created a new roster folder (in this case Ireland), populated it with some ship .cfg files (all already in my game), updated the DefSide to make them neutral, and added random units in the .rnd file.

My problem is this: When I go to the Museum to see if it seems to have worked, sure enough Ireland is there as well as all the ships. BUT, half of the ships have the Irish flag, half of the ships show no flag at all. What have I done wrong that would cause some ships to not show a flag? I assume if the flag doesn't show in the Museum it won't in the game - is that a correct assumption?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks and good hunting!

[AG124]

I assume it is the coastal vessels which do not show the flag. That was a minor problem with the original nationality mod which you will not be able to fix without editing the .dat file itself. You may want to ask Sergbuto about this.

[bigboywooly]

IIRC you need to have a flag.dat and a flags.dat
The smaller ships use the flags.dat

[Redbear]

Thanks guys. You're both right on. So, is there a flags.dat file out there somewhere? I haven't seen it anywhere.

[sergbuto]

I think Diving Duck made flagS.dat based on flag.dat from my Nationality mod so that it includes all the countries from the mod. But I was not able to take a look at it yet.

[DivingDuck]

Moin,

Originally Posted by Redbear

Thanks guys. You're both right on. So, is there a flags.dat file out there somewhere? I haven't seen it anywhere.

check out this one. It contains small flags for all nations that come with Sergbuto´s NationalityModV3.0 + 3 new nations. Detailed installation instructions included. Hope that´s what you was searching for.

Regards,
DD

[Redbear]

That worked! Thanks guys! I really appreciate your help. The work you guys do is awsome. I've benefited from each of you. Thanks again!

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by DivingDuck

Moin,

check out this one. It contains small flags for all nations that come with Sergbuto´s NationalityModV3.0 + 3 new nations. Detailed installation instructions included. Hope that´s what you was searching for.

Regards,
DD

Hi DD!

Do you intend to update your flag files? It seems GWX have modified these as well, and so far the statistics are like this:
GWX flag.dat = 63 textures
GWX flagS.dat = 72 textures (74 - two flags, TurkeyCiv and AlbaniaMil, were put in twice)
DD flag.dat = 55 textures
DD flagS.dat = 55 textures

GWX flags have included Venezuela and Uruguay as I asked you about once! But they didn't add China! Would/could you please insert this country again by editing the GWX files? Thank you a lot in advance!

[DivingDuck]

Hi Carotio,

Originally Posted by Carotio

Hi DD!

Do you intend to update your flag files? It seems GWX have modified these as well, and so far the statistics are like this:
GWX flag.dat = 63 textures
GWX flagS.dat = 72 textures (74 - two flags, TurkeyCiv and AlbaniaMil, were put in twice)
DD flag.dat = 55 textures
DD flagS.dat = 55 textures

GWX flags have included Venezuela and Uruguay as I asked you about once! But they didn't add China! Would/could you please insert this country again by editing the GWX files? Thank you a lot in advance!

Sure I intend to update them. I´m just reinstalling SHIII to have a look at GWX. When finished I´ll check out the flag.dat and see what I can do. But I won´t be able to release anything before Xmas. I keep you informed.

Regards,
DD

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Carotio

GWX flags have included Venezuela and Uruguay as I asked you about once! But they didn't add China! Would/could you please insert this country again by editing the GWX files? Thank you a lot in advance!

Oh Im sorry
Did we need to ask YOU to add new coutries ???
No
But I think it would be nice if YOU asked if you could mod the GWX dats

As with all your work Carotio - a request to use the files would be nice

Any inclusion of ANY of your work in GWX may cause problems and therefore all responsibility to answer and deal with those problems will be yours

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by DivingDuck

Hi Carotio,

Sure I intend to update them. I´m just reinstalling SHIII to have a look at GWX. When finished I´ll check out the flag.dat and see what I can do. But I won´t be able to release anything before Xmas. I keep you informed.

Regards,
DD

Hi DD!
Okay, it's not a rush hour for that now! It's Christmas soon, so it's okay, when it's not before once in the new year! So let me just say thanks in advance and wish you a Merry Christmas for now!

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Oh Im sorry
Did we need to ask YOU to add new coutries ???
No
But I think it would be nice if YOU asked if you could mod the GWX dats

As with all your work Carotio - a request to use the files would be nice

Any inclusion of ANY of your work in GWX may cause problems and therefore all responsibility to answer and deal with those problems will be yours

Sorry, but the reason for above comment was between DD and me, to add more flags, which wasn't available elsewhere, and I don't know how to hex-edit dat-files myself. Otherwise, I would have done it!

Why ask, if it's okay to edit GW/GWX, if the attitude from the team behind towards me from the beginning is bad, just because I edit the files in another direction than the GW/GWX team intend the game to be? If I allready know from earlier comments that my mod edits are regarded as bad, whatever I do, then why bother?

I edit for my own gameplay, first of all, but as among a group of people drinking together, then somebody prefers wine, some bear and others just a coke. In SH3, some like it tough, others just plain easy and others just somewhere in between. When I have edited the files for my liking, I offer it to others, and believe it or not, some people actually like my changes!

About asking to include other modders work - well, I admit that I don't do it, nor do I demand others to ask for my permission, if I edit something out of my own and release that as a mod and they want to use it as part of their work. A simple credit list is what I can offer to do in the readme file, and if that's not enough, okay, then I'm sorry, but that's just me! But starting to get really pi***d about something simple as that, well, try to be just a little more positive instead!

In the end, you warn other users to use any of my mods! Well, one thing you can't blame me for, is this: If problems occur with any of my mods, I try to correct the errors, and thus I do answer people contacting me, and hopefully I respond to everybody in a nice tone, which however sometimes can be hard, like now!

So let me show myself from my nice side!
I would like to wish you a merry Christmas with plenty of joyful Christmas spirits among family and friends! And to everybody else too, reading this thread!

[bigboywooly]

Originally Posted by Carotio

In the end, you warn other users to use any of my mods! Well, one thing you can't blame me for, is this: If problems occur with any of my mods, I try to correct the errors
!

Yes but the problem is as I explained with the defside issue
People dont think its your mod that causes the problem
They will go to GWX and say why is this Urugauyan ship sat in the middle of an allied convoy when its axis

So I end up spending hours of fruitless searching to track down said ships

But the problem lies not with GWX but with your changes

Thats why I pointed out - not warned - that using your mods may cause problems and those problems are yours

Sure we all make mistakes and have to fix things but the way you went and changed the defside with no thought of any other files will only break things
If they dont add the files they dont get broke
Simple really

Merry Xmas to you too

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Yes but the problem is as I explained with the defside issue
People dont think its your mod that causes the problem
They will go to GWX and say why is this Urugauyan ship sat in the middle of an allied convoy when its axis

So I end up spending hours of fruitless searching to track down said ships

But the problem lies not with GWX but with your changes

Thats why I pointed out - not warned - that using your mods may cause problems and those problems are yours

Sure we all make mistakes and have to fix things but the way you went and changed the defside with no thought of any other files will only break things
If they dont add the files they dont get broke
Simple really

Merry Xmas to you too

Okay, so let me put it this way!
In my future readme files, I could write something like this:

"This mods changes some features of GWX thus resulting in unexpected errors, which may be the fault of my modifications! Please consult ME with the infomation of time and grid coordinates for me to investigate, and don't consult the GWX team members, when using my mods"

Would this satisfy you and the other GWX members?

Please remember that I don't mod to insult, I mod to change or add features!

As a note to above discussion:
Could we please keep this in the thead of my World Map mod? It's difficult to have one discussion in two threads!
And if I don't respond anymore today or tomorrow, it's because I'm occupied elsewhere and thus not insulted or anything! Maybe even modding or playing...