Crew Spooked = Detected Still In GWX???

Lanzfeld · 12-13-06, 12:31 AM

Guys..... I am sad to say that I was reading old posts and I came across the post that clued me into the fact that my crewmembers are always hunched over and whispering when I am detected by the AI.

So, I know if I am detected or not just by looking at my crew.

This is the type of thing that warrents a death of a DEV from the original product.

Anybody (betatesters, anyone???) have any idea if this was "fixed" in GWX? If not I guess I will just have to not look at my crew during attacks?

What an absolute 100% bull**** childrens videogame weak minded thing to have in a sim.

The General · 12-13-06, 01:39 AM

Well I feel your pain Brother, but now you've woken everybody up to it, including me, and I would've rather been blissfully ignorant.

Maybe you could delete your post/thread, before there are too many innocent victims?

baggygreen · 12-13-06, 01:49 AM

I think you'll find that there was actually a multi-paged thread relating to this a few days ago. I believe it was entitled "tell me its not that easy".

So i believe that the cat is well and truly out of the bag..

THE_MASK · 12-13-06, 01:54 AM

Ok , so you know if you are detected by the crew letting you know . I dont have a problem with this . So you would rather look at your crew and they reply WHAT DESTROYER , DESTROYER DESTROYER , I CARNT SEE A DESTROYER . OOOOOHHHHH THAT DESTROYER . BOOM .

danlisa · 12-13-06, 03:50 AM

The crew's response is hardcoded, so no SDK = No fix.

12-13-06, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Guys..... I am sad to say that I was reading old posts and I came across the post that clued me into the fact that my crewmembers are always hunched over and whispering when I am detected by the AI.

So, I know if I am detected or not just by looking at my crew.

This is the type of thing that warrents a death of a DEV from the original product.

Anybody (betatesters, anyone???) have any idea if this was "fixed" in GWX? If not I guess I will just have to not look at my crew during attacks?

What an absolute 100% bull**** childrens videogame weak minded thing to have in a sim.

Lanz - could you please post a link to that post

Thks

KC

danlisa · 12-13-06, 04:08 AM

@ Kiwi

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101370

Camaero · 12-13-06, 07:11 AM

Damn! I never even noticed this. Damn this thread!

Lanzfeld · 12-13-06, 10:48 AM

Sorry to bring it up fellas. Really I am more bummed about this than you. Trust me.

But we cant just look the other way!!!

Still....to my original question......and I am losing hope here....no fix in GWX???

danlisa · 12-13-06, 10:52 AM

There will never be a fix without an SDK

It's just one of the many quirks we will have to live with.

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-13-06, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Sorry to bring it up fellas. Really I am more bummed about this than you. Trust me.

But we cant just look the other way!!!

Still....to my original question......and I am losing hope here....no fix in GWX???

The 3D animation of the crew reacting to a threat is hard-coded... The voice and text response IS NOT hard-coded and has been disabled in GWX...

... as is the "We have flooding!" initital message that is prone to loop. "We have heavy flooding!" and "We have critical flooding!" are far more infrequent and will remain... for obvious reasons.

Samwolf · 12-13-06, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanzfeld

Sorry to bring it up fellas. Really I am more bummed about this than you. Trust me.

But we cant just look the other way!!!

Still....to my original question......and I am losing hope here....no fix in GWX???

The 3D animation of the crew reacting to a threat is hard-coded... The voice and text response IS NOT hard-coded and has been disabled in GWX...

... as is the "We have flooding!" initital message that is prone to loop. "We have heavy flooding!" and "We have critical flooding!" are far more infrequent and will remain... for obvious reasons.

Kpt. Lehmann and the GWX Team

Boris · 12-13-06, 03:04 PM

Yeah... this is a problem with merchants, but if a ship is armed and you've been seen, you will be fired upon only seconds later.

Kpt. Lehmann · 12-13-06, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Yeah... this is a problem with merchants, but if a ship is armed and you've been seen, you will be fired upon only seconds later.

LOL, even the merchants have appropriate teeth now.

melnibonian · 12-13-06, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

LOL, even the merchants have appropriate teeth now.

I know I've been hit in the conning tower, lost my scopes and my watch crew from a Medium Merchant

12-13-06, 12:31 AM	#1
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Crew Spooked = Detected Still In GWX??? Guys..... I am sad to say that I was reading old posts and I came across the post that clued me into the fact that my crewmembers are always hunched over and whispering when I am detected by the AI. So, I know if I am detected or not just by looking at my crew. This is the type of thing that warrents a death of a DEV from the original product. Anybody (betatesters, anyone???) have any idea if this was "fixed" in GWX? If not I guess I will just have to not look at my crew during attacks? What an absolute 100% bull**** childrens videogame weak minded thing to have in a sim.

12-13-06, 01:39 AM	#2
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	Ignorance is bliss! Well I feel your pain Brother, but now you've woken everybody up to it, including me, and I would've rather been blissfully ignorant. Maybe you could delete your post/thread, before there are too many innocent victims?

12-13-06, 03:50 AM	#5
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	The crew's response is hardcoded, so no SDK = No fix. __________________

12-13-06, 04:08 AM	#7
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	@ Kiwi http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=101370 __________________

12-13-06, 07:11 AM	#8
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Damn! I never even noticed this. Damn this thread! __________________

12-13-06, 01:49 AM	#3
baggygreen Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canberra, ACT, Down Under (really On Top) Posts: 1,880 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I think you'll find that there was actually a multi-paged thread relating to this a few days ago. I believe it was entitled "tell me its not that easy". So i believe that the cat is well and truly out of the bag..

12-13-06, 01:54 AM	#4
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	Ok , so you know if you are detected by the crew letting you know . I dont have a problem with this . So you would rather look at your crew and they reply WHAT DESTROYER , DESTROYER DESTROYER , I CARNT SEE A DESTROYER . OOOOOHHHHH THAT DESTROYER . BOOM .

12-13-06, 10:48 AM	#9
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Sorry to bring it up fellas. Really I am more bummed about this than you. Trust me. But we cant just look the other way!!! Still....to my original question......and I am losing hope here....no fix in GWX???

12-13-06, 10:52 AM	#10
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	There will never be a fix without an SDK It's just one of the many quirks we will have to live with. __________________

12-13-06, 03:04 PM	#13
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Yeah... this is a problem with merchants, but if a ship is armed and you've been seen, you will be fired upon only seconds later.