How The news was broke to Donitz when he took over

USS Sea Tiger · 11-18-06, 07:15 AM

This is how I suspect it went down

Safe-Keeper · 11-18-06, 08:16 AM

British humor...

Funny thing is I find 90% of Monthy Python to be not too funny. I guess it's akin to how this one Brit didn't laugh at a single Norwegian Nemi strip.

This thing was good, though. "This isn't one of those pranksie jokes you play on all the newcomers, is it?":rotfl:

Dönitz: "Can't you do that greeting thing, just once, please".
Both: "...Heil Dönitz..."
Dönitz: "Thanks. That's nice."

Dowly · 11-18-06, 08:22 AM

A slight OT, but anyone else find the Doenitz´s sentence unfair at Nuremberg? Ten years because he ordered Uboats not to take survivors on board. Even Nimitz from the US navy was defending Doenitz, in pacific the US subs had virtually the same orders.

Safe-Keeper · 11-18-06, 08:32 AM

Victor's justice

. The "good guys" don't have to stand trial. Hopefully this'll improve over the years so that all war criminals are convicted, but as of now (and even more so back in the sixties), no such luck.

But to order submarines not to take survivors on board when they can do so is not exactly playing it nice.

mookiemookie · 11-18-06, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

But to order submarines not to take survivors on board when they can do so...

That's awful debatable

There's a lot of good reasons why you wouldn't take on survivors. Space concerns, provisions, danger to your boat and crew from air attack while picking them up, etc

Safe-Keeper · 11-18-06, 10:13 AM

Meknows, meknows. But still.

Sailor Steve · 11-18-06, 02:19 PM

The exchange in the "Uncut" version of Das Boot, after they left the British survivors in the water:

Captain: "It had to be that way."
Werner: "Why?"
Captain: "What?"
Werner: "Why did it have to be that way?"
Captain: "We barely have room for the fifty men assigned to this boat! How many would you bring on board? One? Ten? A hundred?"

hyperion2206 · 11-18-06, 07:09 PM

I think one treaty signed before the war said, that if you can't rescue the crew of a ship then you must not sink it. That's a good one, isn't it?:rotfl:

nikimcbee · 11-19-06, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by U-94

This is how I suspect it went down

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Safe-Keeper · 11-19-06, 07:15 AM

Hey, I know why it was, OK, I'm just not convinced.

Warmonger · 11-19-06, 11:18 AM

That was prolly the biggest psychological burden for sub crews to leave survivors alone. That's why many subs helped them in the earlier stages by providing supplies and directions. But after continuous attacks on helping subs by mostly American planes IIRC orders had to be changed. That's war...

Respenus · 11-19-06, 11:28 AM

It was...funny...

11-18-06, 07:15 AM	#1
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	How The news was broke to Donitz when he took over This is how I suspect it went down

11-18-06, 08:16 AM	#2
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	British humor... Funny thing is I find 90% of Monthy Python to be not too funny. I guess it's akin to how this one Brit didn't laugh at a single Norwegian Nemi strip. This thing was good, though. "This isn't one of those pranksie jokes you play on all the newcomers, is it?":rotfl: Dönitz: "Can't you do that greeting thing, just once, please". Both: "...Heil Dönitz..." Dönitz: "Thanks. That's nice." __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

11-18-06, 08:32 AM	#4
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Victor's justice. The "good guys" don't have to stand trial. Hopefully this'll improve over the years so that all war criminals are convicted, but as of now (and even more so back in the sixties), no such luck. But to order submarines not to take survivors on board when they can do so is not exactly playing it nice. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

11-18-06, 10:13 AM	#6
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Meknows, meknows. But still. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

11-18-06, 02:19 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The exchange in the "Uncut" version of Das Boot, after they left the British survivors in the water: Captain: "It had to be that way." Werner: "Why?" Captain: "What?" Werner: "Why did it have to be that way?" Captain: "We barely have room for the fifty men assigned to this boat! How many would you bring on board? One? Ten? A hundred?" __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

11-18-06, 08:22 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	A slight OT, but anyone else find the Doenitz´s sentence unfair at Nuremberg? Ten years because he ordered Uboats not to take survivors on board. Even Nimitz from the US navy was defending Doenitz, in pacific the US subs had virtually the same orders.

11-18-06, 07:09 PM	#8
hyperion2206 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 1,227 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I think one treaty signed before the war said, that if you can't rescue the crew of a ship then you must not sink it. That's a good one, isn't it?:rotfl:

11-19-06, 07:15 AM	#10
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Hey, I know why it was, OK, I'm just not convinced. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

11-19-06, 11:18 AM	#11
Warmonger Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 266 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	That was prolly the biggest psychological burden for sub crews to leave survivors alone. That's why many subs helped them in the earlier stages by providing supplies and directions. But after continuous attacks on helping subs by mostly American planes IIRC orders had to be changed. That's war...

11-19-06, 11:28 AM	#12
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It was...funny... __________________