Why I am not that anxious for GWX!!!! - Page 3

Wulfmann · 11-01-06, 09:05 PM

Wow, talk about seeing something different seen.
I really thought there would not be a single reply to this thread and I just now came to the forum after original posting it

First, I in no way was criticizing GWX before it is released. Those that thought that simply missed the point. Because after all this time I finally have this SH3 as real as I believe it can be starting over just seems daunting.
No more.

What ever you think of calling the Hunt class there is no ED designation and my point was it was purpose built to escort not a fleet destroyer with which SH3 classes it as and by having a DE classed one that expands along with the GW added US DE as HMS and the original River (Which is not a River at all) allows for using 3 generic type 3s in the RND varying the make up of escorts (with 3 type not one and reducing using DDs as escorts)) making convoy predictability by recognizing the escort make up more difficult. (Don’t make me repeat that!):rotfl:

I will certainly get GWX and will certainly find it lacking for my purpose.
That is not a cut in any way.
Many point out my level of realism is just too close to nerve racking and I agree but I will insist on that and if GWX was made to that most would find it more than they might enjoy.
It is not being made to suit me and again knowing that I know I will start over.

As for me being any part of any project in this community I just can’t consider it and as was pointed out I would not be welcome.
Excuse my arrogance but I have no doubt GWX would benefit in many ways from my involvement but my refusal to be part of past witch hunts makes me an outsider not welcome by the party faithful.
I would not mention this but since a couple made it a point to make the cutting insults I have the right to reply!
I am in two other projects anyway and have a good idea on how taxing and difficult the commitment is.
I am happy as most here are that the fine group in GW is working so hard for our enjoyment and my altering it means I respect it and just want to extra tweak not change the great effort

I love how SW gets thrown in, some just can’t resist.

That patrol was on the edge from the moment I left the pen and I had 8-10 DD contacts and many aircraft close calls and that 6 hour pounding and was nearly sunk many times. Had that been real life I might have deserted upon my arrival in St Nazaire.

I was just thinking out loud about how GWX taking longer would delay my starting over to reach this same super intensity

Bottom line my install is a heavily modded GW and since GWX will still be somewhat user friendly it will not be nerve racking enough for me hence I will have to start over.

Whatever else you make of this is in your head and was not from me.

Wulfmann

JSalinger · 11-01-06, 09:23 PM

Then I'm curious Wulf, how do you know what will be in GWX? Unless you happen to be a Beta tester or are involved in its development, I see no reason how you could know what's going to be in it...

Arrogance is a weakness...overconfidence is a weakness...Hitler learned these things the hardway and ended up blowing his brains out he backside of his head...

Wulfmann · 11-01-06, 09:56 PM

I never said I knew what was in GWX.
By what they say it will be different that the current one.
Am I wrong to assume that is true?

All I said was after a year and a half I finally have SH3 as real as I can get it for the first time and when GWX is released I will have to re-tweak that to suit that same intensity because it is not being made for me.

I certainly do not expect it to be so I will have to make it such and because that will take a lot of work it being delayed will allow me to enjoy this version a little longer.

Some mistook my "Not being anxious" to mean I did not think it would be good. That is wrong. I expect it to be so good I will want to stop playing this version and tweak it to suit mey idea of reality.
This really would not be that hard to understand if some were not looking to make it more than it is.

Wulfmann

kapitanfred · 11-02-06, 02:13 AM

Wulfmann, it seems to me that you are more worried about having to re-tweak things to suit your needs. There is a simple solution to it all, don't use the GWX mod when it gets released.

TarJak · 11-02-06, 03:16 AM

Or don't tweak it! I plan to wait and see what's in and whats not. I've also tweaked my GW install with a bunch of new ships and planes and while I hope the ones I've got are all in GWX I'm not going to be too bothered if not. Just tweak again and test and if it all works viola! I'm a happy kaleun again!

Boris · 11-02-06, 06:11 AM

Don't count your chickens yet Wulfman, GWX is no picnic... you may have to do less tweaking than you think.

Respenus · 11-02-06, 06:40 AM

We shall all see, how GWX will work out!

Wulfmann · 11-02-06, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boris

Don't count your chickens yet Wulfman, GWX is no picnic... you may have to do less tweaking than you think.

That would be nice but I don't mind tweaking it.

Still almost everyone missed the point

Nothing stays the same, we call it progress.

I look forward to GWX. When it comes I will examine the files particularly the convoys in the RND.mis file and the sensors. Unless GWX has added many DE and sloop types (eliminating the fleet DDs from escorting convoys) and correctly utilized them in proper historic numbers and at veteran crew ratings I will simply change it to suit what, IMO, is historic.
If the sensors are much much much improved (GW's are so so so easy) then I will give it a go to see what they came up with. There are more ways to approach sensors but NYGM was, IMO, closer to what I thought was realistic, again, IMO. However, I made my own sensor setting but they are closer to NYGM and nowhere near the very easy GW. (I have no doubt that will change in GWX from what I have read.)
What I noticed and finally got me on track was that each sensor change effects other aspects so one must edit a single item and test that before changing other areas one at a time. Changing 3 or 4 things may change things in a way that does not allow one to ascertain what caused the adverse effect and lead one further from the desired solution. That was what took me so long testing each single change before moving to another item.

Again. What I said and some misunderstood (some look for ways to slam me anyway but I am happy I can be the whipping post) was I finally tweaked my GW-NYGM-Wulfmann-SH3 to be as I believe is super hard but survivable, as good as I can get it and better than I ever thought possible.
So, in spite of my desire to have and use the GWX this one is so good now I will not mind waiting a little longer.
If you choose to read that as a slam to the GW team you likely rode the short bus to school or simply translate anything I say to be something to attack.
If so, for the first seek counseling and the latter just remove the beam from your own eye before you concern yourself with the splinter in mine!

Wulfmann

Sailor Steve · 11-02-06, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wulfmann

(Don’t make me repeat that!):rotfl:

Repeat please!

If you don't get that joke you need to see Battle Of Britain (or if you've seen it you need to watch it again).

Pants · 11-02-06, 12:39 PM

The good old polish Squadron

Good afternoon...Good Afternoon my arse! LOL

11-01-06, 09:05 PM	#31
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Wow, talk about seeing something different seen. I really thought there would not be a single reply to this thread and I just now came to the forum after original posting it First, I in no way was criticizing GWX before it is released. Those that thought that simply missed the point. Because after all this time I finally have this SH3 as real as I believe it can be starting over just seems daunting. No more. What ever you think of calling the Hunt class there is no ED designation and my point was it was purpose built to escort not a fleet destroyer with which SH3 classes it as and by having a DE classed one that expands along with the GW added US DE as HMS and the original River (Which is not a River at all) allows for using 3 generic type 3s in the RND varying the make up of escorts (with 3 type not one and reducing using DDs as escorts)) making convoy predictability by recognizing the escort make up more difficult. (Don’t make me repeat that!):rotfl: I will certainly get GWX and will certainly find it lacking for my purpose. That is not a cut in any way. Many point out my level of realism is just too close to nerve racking and I agree but I will insist on that and if GWX was made to that most would find it more than they might enjoy. It is not being made to suit me and again knowing that I know I will start over. As for me being any part of any project in this community I just can’t consider it and as was pointed out I would not be welcome. Excuse my arrogance but I have no doubt GWX would benefit in many ways from my involvement but my refusal to be part of past witch hunts makes me an outsider not welcome by the party faithful. I would not mention this but since a couple made it a point to make the cutting insults I have the right to reply! I am in two other projects anyway and have a good idea on how taxing and difficult the commitment is. I am happy as most here are that the fine group in GW is working so hard for our enjoyment and my altering it means I respect it and just want to extra tweak not change the great effort I love how SW gets thrown in, some just can’t resist. That patrol was on the edge from the moment I left the pen and I had 8-10 DD contacts and many aircraft close calls and that 6 hour pounding and was nearly sunk many times. Had that been real life I might have deserted upon my arrival in St Nazaire. I was just thinking out loud about how GWX taking longer would delay my starting over to reach this same super intensity Bottom line my install is a heavily modded GW and since GWX will still be somewhat user friendly it will not be nerve racking enough for me hence I will have to start over. Whatever else you make of this is in your head and was not from me. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

11-01-06, 09:23 PM	#32
JSalinger Sparky Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane, WA, USA Posts: 156 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Then I'm curious Wulf, how do you know what will be in GWX? Unless you happen to be a Beta tester or are involved in its development, I see no reason how you could know what's going to be in it... Arrogance is a weakness...overconfidence is a weakness...Hitler learned these things the hardway and ended up blowing his brains out he backside of his head... __________________ J. Salinger King of the House

11-01-06, 09:56 PM	#33
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I never said I knew what was in GWX. By what they say it will be different that the current one. Am I wrong to assume that is true? All I said was after a year and a half I finally have SH3 as real as I can get it for the first time and when GWX is released I will have to re-tweak that to suit that same intensity because it is not being made for me. I certainly do not expect it to be so I will have to make it such and because that will take a lot of work it being delayed will allow me to enjoy this version a little longer. Some mistook my "Not being anxious" to mean I did not think it would be good. That is wrong. I expect it to be so good I will want to stop playing this version and tweak it to suit mey idea of reality. This really would not be that hard to understand if some were not looking to make it more than it is. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

11-02-06, 06:40 AM	#37
Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We shall all see, how GWX will work out! __________________

11-02-06, 12:39 PM	#40
Pants Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Posts: 849 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The good old polish Squadron Good afternoon...Good Afternoon my arse! LOL __________________ Ex GWX Dev Team member and proud GWX user

11-02-06, 02:13 AM	#34
kapitanfred Planesman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Australia Posts: 191 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Wulfmann, it seems to me that you are more worried about having to re-tweak things to suit your needs. There is a simple solution to it all, don't use the GWX mod when it gets released.

11-02-06, 03:16 AM	#35
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Or don't tweak it! I plan to wait and see what's in and whats not. I've also tweaked my GW install with a bunch of new ships and planes and while I hope the ones I've got are all in GWX I'm not going to be too bothered if not. Just tweak again and test and if it all works viola! I'm a happy kaleun again!

11-02-06, 06:11 AM	#36
Boris Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 1,691 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Don't count your chickens yet Wulfman, GWX is no picnic... you may have to do less tweaking than you think.