Eye view screen went black

robj250 · 10-27-06, 05:39 AM

I had just got between the to wrecks entering Scapa Flow from the east Sept 13, 1939, 2208. I put up my observation scope to check the positions of the ships and nothing but black. I raised the attack scope and the same thing. So I pressed F12 and I got the same thing, a black screen. I couldn't see anything cause it was so black. Any ideas?

EDIT: Well, I restarted the computer and the game and I heard thunder and saw a bird fly across the screen, so I guess I am in a storm, with complete overcast blocking out the night sky. Now how in the world am I going to attack any ship inside the harbour when I can't see a damned thing?

Perhaps I should stop engines and settle on the floor of the harbour and wait until morning???

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

melnibonian · 10-27-06, 06:26 AM

I had the same problem once in Miami. The fog was so thick I couldn't see further than 100-150 m. I had to abandon the mission and look for other targets

I've sent a report to BdU 'Mission abandoned due to bad weather'

Their reply was 'Be More Aggressive'

Don't worry there are plenty ships in the sea. These things do happen sometimes

Good Luck and Good Shooting

robj250 · 10-27-06, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by melnibonian

I had the same problem once in Miami. The fog was so thick I couldn't see further than 100-150 m. I had to abandon the mission and look for other targets

I've sent a report to BdU 'Mission abandoned due to bad weather'

Their reply was 'Be More Aggressive'

Don't worry there are plenty ships in the sea. These things do happen sometimes

Good Luck and Good Shooting

Thanks, but it doesn't really help me in my situation. I took a long time getting into the harbour and now that I'm here, I think I should carry out my mission.

I don't think a Kaleun, once sneaking into Scapa Flow at night would simply give up and leave just because the weather turned into a bloody storm where he couldn't see his hand in front of his face.

danlisa · 10-27-06, 07:07 AM

Maneuver yourself via hydrophone and wait for daylight.

You will probably have minimal visability but if you line youself up correctly you'll be fine. Find your target, you should be able to see it in obs scope at a distance of under 200mt then just backaway.

There is a good 'glitch' that will help you here. Even though you can't see the target you can still lock on to it with the scopes.

IIRC you may have to input your TDC data maually if you use this glitch.(but if it's a stationary target, no probs)

robj250 · 10-27-06, 07:14 AM

I have never placed a U-boat on the seabed and turn off engines and wait for a while. How is it done without damage to your U-boat?

Dare I do a depth check done by whomeever does it?

danlisa · 10-27-06, 07:27 AM

Again, a bit of a cheat but with any supermod if you cut your engines and set a new depth, the boat will very slowly sink until it reaches the bottom. You can use 1kt speed to hurry this along and still take no damage.

IIRC Scapa is between 15-20mt at most.

I would suggest that you actually find a quiet area, stay a periscope depth & crank TC. The reason for this is if you are sat on the bottom you will be limited to a max TC of 8. (unless you changed it)

Edit - About GW changing the weather report. This was because the Nav Officer was never on deck to see what the weather was like.

bigboywooly · 10-27-06, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

Think about it Rob
How can the navigator tell you the weather when you are submerged ?
Only someone topside can tell you the weather properly

robj250 · 10-27-06, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Quote:

Originally Posted by robj250

How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer???

Think about it Rob
How can the navigator tell you the weather when you are submerged ?
Only someone topside can tell you the weather properly

Yep, I guess you're correct.

robj250 · 10-27-06, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Again, a bit of a cheat but with any supermod if you cut your engines and set a new depth, the boat will very slowly sink until it reaches the bottom. You can use 1kt speed to hurry this along and still take no damage.

IIRC Scapa is between 15-20mt at most.

I would suggest that you actually find a quiet area, stay a periscope depth & crank TC. The reason for this is if you are sat on the bottom you will be limited to a max TC of 8. (unless you changed it)

Edit - About GW changing the weather report. This was because the Nav Officer was never on deck to see what the weather was like.

I just on the west edge of the sunken ships on the east channel. I guess i't as good a place as any to wait at PD and TC the ime.

AVGWarhawk · 10-27-06, 07:47 AM

Hard to see at night, yes? You got a pretty good taste of what the u-boat watch had to deal with. Kind of cool experience via a game. Wait until day break.

You will get'em then!

robj250 · 10-27-06, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Hard to see at night, yes? You got a pretty good taste of what the u-boat watch had to deal with. Kind of cool experience via a game. Wait until day break.

You will get'em then!

I hope it is really foggy out early in the morning

Kaleu_Mihoo · 10-27-06, 08:04 AM

well maybe just try to shoot at the hydrophone bearings. When you're close enough to the target, you'll see "target unknown" markings on the hydro, even for non-moving targets. I know, it's not realistic at all, but... In this way you could try firing a fish with a contact fuse and wait for your luck

greets
Mihoo

robj250 · 10-27-06, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaleu_Mihoo

well maybe just try to shoot at the hydrophone bearings. When you're close enough to the target, you'll see "target unknown" markings on the hydro, even for non-moving targets. I know, it's not realistic at all, but... In this way you could try firing a fish with a contact fuse and wait for your luck

greets
Mihoo

Really. I dodn't know I could do that in TGW. What are the chances of hitting the a non-moving target when I don't know how far it is. How far would the hydrophones pick up the non-moving target?

At the present there is NO, I repeat, NO movement of any warships in the harbour. The only warship moving is the one way outside the east entrnce.

It is now 0139 Thursday September 14, 1939.

I realy do not want to waste eels on a small ship. The reason for going into Scapa Flow was to get a capitAL ship, like a battleship.

What do you mean by a contact fuse?

Kaleu_Mihoo · 10-27-06, 09:11 AM

you don't need the whole fire solution, just turn the scope at the bearing you've read from the hydrophone, by default TDC settings you should aim in the same direction where your're looking. By a "contact fuse" I mean a fish detonator type- magnetic or contact. Because you don't know the draft of the vessel you're shooting at, just set a contact fuse and the torpedo depth at 2-3 m and fire. If it doesn't bounce off the hull you may score a hit. I've tried it yesterday in the Hartlepool harbour and it worked for me. I also play TGW 2.2 (at 100%).
greets
Mihoo

Jimbuna · 10-27-06, 11:12 AM

I think he means 'impact'...good luck robj...hope you aren't kissing your ar*e goodbye shortly after launching those eels just for a small merchant hehe

10-27-06, 05:39 AM	#1
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Eye view screen went black I had just got between the to wrecks entering Scapa Flow from the east Sept 13, 1939, 2208. I put up my observation scope to check the positions of the ships and nothing but black. I raised the attack scope and the same thing. So I pressed F12 and I got the same thing, a black screen. I couldn't see anything cause it was so black. Any ideas? EDIT: Well, I restarted the computer and the game and I heard thunder and saw a bird fly across the screen, so I guess I am in a storm, with complete overcast blocking out the night sky. Now how in the world am I going to attack any ship inside the harbour when I can't see a damned thing? Perhaps I should stop engines and settle on the floor of the harbour and wait until morning??? How come TGW took the authority to report weather conditions away from the Navigator and gave it to the Watch Officer??? Last edited by robj250; 10-27-06 at 06:47 AM.

10-27-06, 07:07 AM	#4
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Maneuver yourself via hydrophone and wait for daylight. You will probably have minimal visability but if you line youself up correctly you'll be fine. Find your target, you should be able to see it in obs scope at a distance of under 200mt then just backaway. There is a good 'glitch' that will help you here. Even though you can't see the target you can still lock on to it with the scopes. IIRC you may have to input your TDC data maually if you use this glitch.(but if it's a stationary target, no probs) __________________

10-27-06, 07:14 AM	#5
robj250 Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Port Hardy, BC, Canada 75 yo with M.S. & C.O.P.D. & heart problems Posts: 1,930 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have never placed a U-boat on the seabed and turn off engines and wait for a while. How is it done without damage to your U-boat? Dare I do a depth check done by whomeever does it? Last edited by robj250; 10-27-06 at 07:17 AM.

10-27-06, 07:27 AM	#6
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Again, a bit of a cheat but with any supermod if you cut your engines and set a new depth, the boat will very slowly sink until it reaches the bottom. You can use 1kt speed to hurry this along and still take no damage. IIRC Scapa is between 15-20mt at most. I would suggest that you actually find a quiet area, stay a periscope depth & crank TC. The reason for this is if you are sat on the bottom you will be limited to a max TC of 8. (unless you changed it) Edit - About GW changing the weather report. This was because the Nav Officer was never on deck to see what the weather was like. __________________

10-27-06, 07:47 AM	#10
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,253 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Hard to see at night, yes? You got a pretty good taste of what the u-boat watch had to deal with. Kind of cool experience via a game. Wait until day break. You will get'em then! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-27-06, 06:26 AM	#2
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I had the same problem once in Miami. The fog was so thick I couldn't see further than 100-150 m. I had to abandon the mission and look for other targets I've sent a report to BdU 'Mission abandoned due to bad weather' Their reply was 'Be More Aggressive' Don't worry there are plenty ships in the sea. These things do happen sometimes Good Luck and Good Shooting

10-27-06, 08:04 AM	#12
Kaleu_Mihoo Medic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Poland/Germany Posts: 159 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	well maybe just try to shoot at the hydrophone bearings. When you're close enough to the target, you'll see "target unknown" markings on the hydro, even for non-moving targets. I know, it's not realistic at all, but... In this way you could try firing a fish with a contact fuse and wait for your luck greets Mihoo Last edited by Kaleu_Mihoo; 10-27-06 at 08:23 AM.

10-27-06, 09:11 AM	#14
Kaleu_Mihoo Medic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Poland/Germany Posts: 159 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	you don't need the whole fire solution, just turn the scope at the bearing you've read from the hydrophone, by default TDC settings you should aim in the same direction where your're looking. By a "contact fuse" I mean a fish detonator type- magnetic or contact. Because you don't know the draft of the vessel you're shooting at, just set a contact fuse and the torpedo depth at 2-3 m and fire. If it doesn't bounce off the hull you may score a hit. I've tried it yesterday in the Hartlepool harbour and it worked for me. I also play TGW 2.2 (at 100%). greets Mihoo

10-27-06, 11:12 AM	#15
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I think he means 'impact'...good luck robj...hope you aren't kissing your are goodbye shortly after launching those eels just for a small merchant hehe __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.* Oh my God, not again!!