Visual evidence for global warming

[Skybird]

Finally, undisputable!

http://www.henryk-broder.de/foto_des_tages/

Currently reading a small book by this guy, "Hurra, wir kapitulieren! Die Lust am Einknicken." Bitter black humour, compact, and right up to the point. Recommended.

[Dowly]

I saw a documentary about the effects that smoke from chimneys and all that has to the global warming. The guy said that if everything would stop (factories, air traffic, car traffic etc.) the sun could heat up our planet more effieciently. But the result was only a few celsius higher than now.

[Skybird]

"Only"...? 2 degrees already make monumental differences for the spreading of zoological and botanic species, measured in hundreds of thousand of kilometres, and changes in the oxygene production of maritime botanic species, algas, and krill - go figure. Deseases and epidemics, extreme weather phenomenons also intensifies, and move further noth and south of the equator, as well as growing desertification (all global deserts currently increase at speeds unknown in earth's history of the last 20000 years at least. Figure aboiut sweet water, willows and farmlands - and the interhuman conflicts that will be casued by these addtionally to the war for prosperity, ressources, energy and ideological dominance). "Only"?

[Dowly]

Only.

:rotfl:

[Konovalov]

Another global warming debate might just be heating up on Subsim.

[CB..]

yes this "only" 2 degrees thing is laughable...i'm told it "only" takes a temperature rise of 5 - 8 degrees to effectively render extinct a huge proportion of life on earth...and as we all ready have two of that rise we now only need 3 - 6....

and of course this does not have to be pernament....it need only last a few decades to do the job...completely destroying the food chain and everything that depends on it...(ie us)..not to mention rendering vast tracts of the earths surface inhospitable to life even if it is habitable still...

the chain reaction of events stemming from this would finish the job off...

and this is without any natural or un-natural distasters adding to the effect...one Krakatoa and the job is done over night

[HunterICX]

then the global warming has its good sides

[CB..]

Originally Posted by HunterICX

then the global warming has its good sides

"We are Borg ..you will be assimilated"

[STEED]

Thanks Skybird. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Any way to the point the ice caps are melting so us lot will need too wrap up and why? The next Ice Age is coming!!

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by STEED

Thanks Skybird. :rotfl: :rotfl:

Any way to the point the ice caps are melting so us lot will need too wrap up and why? The next Ice Age is coming!!

YEAH I SEEN THE MOVIE!!! its cool

Ow...you mean that sort of Ice Age...
:rotfl:

[CB..]

perhaps what they are relying on is that once the Oil runs out any futher contribution to global warming will be neglible as we won't have any industry left to produce it...

they (the powers that be or not be that is the question) are equaly casual about both the need for Oil and Global climate change...

this way they get to use one to solve the other..they'l certainly meet their emmisions quota once all the factorys cars and domestic applaince are gone..yup that must be what they are doing...

can i have my lobotomy now nurse..

[Bum]

Global warming is coming? Or an Ice Age? Which is it? Make up your minds.

Last year here in the US you were saying Hurrincaes Rita and Katrinia were proof of global warming. This year no major storms, is that proof global warming is over?

I don't see what all fuss is over, a little global warming should offset the nuclear winter we are going to have as countries like iran and north korea start WWIII.

[CB..]

Originally Posted by Stuka

I don't see what all fuss is over, a little global warming should offset the nuclear winter we are going to have as countries like iran and north korea start WWIII.

that was going to be my next possible explanation for the bizaare lack of concern..

[IceGrog]

Originally Posted by Stuka

Last year here in the US you were saying Hurrincaes Rita and Katrinia were proof of global warming.

hey Stuka, how many Hurricanes did you get in Death Valley?

[moose1am]

Two key words here that one must understand fully to understand the global warming issue.

AVERAGE GLOBAL TEMPERATURE

Take a temperature reading every hour in 100,000 places all over the earth each hour for one year. Take them at the North Pole, South Pole, Equator and everyone in between at all latitude and a equally spaced longitudes. Take them on top of mountains as well as in the deserts. Take them in the amazon along the mighty river and in the forest. Take them out over the oceans too.

Now take all the temperature measurements and average them.

That's what they are talking about 2 deg C AVERAGE GLOBAL INCREASE in world wide temperature.

That's why the North Pole's ice is shrinking. Over the year the amount of heat is getting greater on average than the amount of cooling. The net result is the melting or more and more of the Polar Ice Caps at BOTH the North and the South Pole.


Ice and Glaciers don't melt easily and when they start loosing ice mass that tells everyone that the Earth is heating up SIGNIFICANTLY. Most of the world fresh water is tied up in ICE at the North and South Pole Areas. IF all that ice were to melt it would raise the average sea level by 100 METERS. That's 300 feet for all you English measurement guys.

Once the earth starts heating up can we stop it from speeding up the heating process? We don't really know the answer to that question. But we may be about ready to find out the hard way.

Originally Posted by Dowly

I saw a documentary about the effects that smoke from chimneys and all that has to the global warming. The guy said that if everything would stop (factories, air traffic, car traffic etc.) the sun could heat up our planet more effieciently. But the result was only a few celsius higher than now.