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Old 10-14-06, 03:19 PM   #16
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Sadly, as you can see, there is plenty of fascist actitudes around.
Maybe you should know what words mean before employing them: Fascism.
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And the worst thing is that there are a lot of "spin doctors" supporting this.
Now there's a classic spin.
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Old 10-14-06, 03:30 PM   #17
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Maybe you should know what words mean before employing them: Fascism.
Authoritarianism sounds to you? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
(belief in total submission to government authority)

Usually history had teached that authoritarianism is the first step to tyranny.

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Old 10-14-06, 03:42 PM   #18
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Maybe you should know what words mean before employing them: Fascism.
Authoritarianism sounds to you? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
(belief in total submission to government authority)

Ussualy history had teached that authoritarianism is the first step to tyranny.
What country do you come from Von Capo? Have you ever even visited the USA? Do you even know what the Secret Service is and what it's tasked to do? And how long it's been doing it? Or are you just a slave to hysteria, and misinformation?

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Old 10-14-06, 03:57 PM   #19
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She got what she asked for. In her conception of the world, the opposition does not exist: it must be killed, eliminated, erradicated. Anybody who disagrees with this girl should be put to the knife. She does not guarantee the right of freedom of expression to anybody else but her.

I expect to hear from her again in 20 years or so, after she converts to Islam since Al-Qaeda probably has just found the replacement for Azzam the American.
I don't even think I have to explain myself.

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Old 10-14-06, 04:05 PM   #20
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I don't even think I have to explain myself.
, This people is amazing.
I am not sure what to think, if I am posting in a nest of rightists, or; if they need to travel around the world, to know what is going on outside their home. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

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Old 10-14-06, 04:09 PM   #21
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I don't even think I have to explain myself.
, This people is amazing.
I am not sure what to think, if I am posting in a nest of rightists, or, they need to travel around the world to know what is going on. :hmm::hmm::hmm:
Have you been to the USA, Von Capo? I've been to Europe. In fact, I've lived there when I was stationed in Germany. I know PC madness and authoritarian policies when I see it.

I suggest you get your passport ready and get educated yourself.
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Old 10-14-06, 04:19 PM   #22
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I think everyone is just lashing out at America every chance they get. Taking a minor investigation like this and blowing it out of proportion.
America bashing in international forums has become a hobby for the ignorant. Perfect example of what you said, taking things out of context and blowing it out of proportion.
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Old 10-14-06, 04:20 PM   #23
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Have you been to the USA, Von Capo? I've been to Europe. In fact, I've lived there when I was stationed in Germany. I know PC madness and authoritarian policies when I see it.

I suggest you get your passport ready and get educated yourself.
Demon, I have a high consideration about you.

But, to live in USA is not necessary to know what is correct and what is absurd.
By the way, I had travel many, many miles across your country, I had been in many States and visited many veteran legions.

And this replay is broadcasted from NYC (FYI).

So, I must dismiss your suggestion.

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Old 10-14-06, 04:21 PM   #24
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Skybird sniffing for dirty laundry again...what's new lol.Too Much..stop stop...your killing me....:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Old 10-14-06, 04:25 PM   #25
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Have you been to the USA, Von Capo? I've been to Europe. In fact, I've lived there when I was stationed in Germany. I know PC madness and authoritarian policies when I see it.

I suggest you get your passport ready and get educated yourself.
Demon, I have a high consideration about you.
But, to live in USA is not necessary to know what is correct and what is absurd.
By the way, I had travel many, many miles across your country, I have been in many States and visited many veteran legions.

So, I must dismiss your suggestion.
OK. Just wondering. We'll have to disagree then. I don't think it's absurd or incorrect to protect the President, and other foreign leaders. I value the mission of the Secret Service, and think their response was appropriate. And it's nothing new.

http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/index.shtml

They've been doing this a long time. Even if you disagree with it, your characterization of people who value this mission as fascists is way over the top, uncalled for, and totally false.
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Old 10-14-06, 04:37 PM   #26
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OK. Just wondering. We'll have to disagree then. I don't think it's absurd or incorrect to protect the President, and other foreign leaders. I value the mission of the Secret Service, and think their response was appropriate. And it's nothing new.
To protect the President

To target citizens because they think or manifest
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Old 10-14-06, 04:52 PM   #27
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OK. Just wondering. We'll have to disagree then. I don't think it's absurd or incorrect to protect the President, and other foreign leaders. I value the mission of the Secret Service, and think their response was appropriate. And it's nothing new.
To protect the President

To target citizens because they think or manifest
Woahh!!! Do you even know what you are talking about? What you are suggesting is to say it is OK to incite revolt, regardless her age. The response by the Secret Service seems a little less than what I would expect even. I seriously doubt there is a country out there that would tolerate this and not take equal or more action. For the US, this has been law for over 200 years!!! Regardless who it is, and regardless if the politician is Democrat, Republican, or Independant, the Secret Service must do this job!!! This is a must for national survival of any nation. Try that in China for example - she would be dead tomorrow!

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Old 10-14-06, 04:53 PM   #28
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Thank you all for lighting the fire so that I can warm my cold bones by it. Guys - we are talking about a 14 year old girl with braces and freckles - you are aware of that, yes?! Jetzt laßt die Kirche mal im Dorf... That girl is the most harmless assassin of all assassins there are. Ten years sentence at maximum, I say.
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Old 10-14-06, 04:56 PM   #29
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Thank you all for lighting the fire so that I can warm my cold bones by it. Guys - we are talking about a 14 year old girl with braces and freckles - you are aware of that, yes?! Jetzt laßt die Kirche mal im Dorf... That girl is the most harmless assassin of all assassins there are. Ten years sentence at maximum, I say.
Hmm - imagine Al Qeada using 10 year old girls to get their message across without conviction then. Doesn't take too many brains to figure out that this is not a good idea.
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Old 10-14-06, 04:56 PM   #30
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Thank you all for lighting the fire so that I can warm my cold bones by it. Guys - we are talking about a 14 year old girl with braces and freckles - you are aware of that, yes?! Jetzt laßt die Kirche mal im Dorf... That girl is the most harmless assassin of all assassins there are. Ten years sentence at maximum, I say.
. That is the reason because I called them fascist.

And I made emphasis in what is correct and what is absurd.
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