Has the President of the United States lost his marbles?

[Sailor Steve]

I too have some issues with the government today, but I'd be a lot more likely to give creedence to people like Neon if they weren't already biased. The use of the derogative "Georgie" is evidence enough.

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I too have some issues with the government today, but I'd be a lot more likely to give creedence to people like Neon if they weren't already biased. The use of the derogative "Georgie" is evidence enough.

Georgie?

Since when is calling someone Georgie derogatory?


Now had I called him an A##hole.

You might have something there

PS.

I made fun of Hillary Clinton in a picture post awhile back.

Yes I make jokes about public figures. Democrat or Republican.

Does not mean I hate them.

All I did was post a link and ask a question.

My bad.

[Smaragdadler]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

...
I wouldn't let Bush supervise my toilet! Come On! What is up with this guy?!?! He's just missing the Hitler mustache! Other than that, he's identical in every other way!
...

That's a Führerbeleidigung. (meaning it is offending The Führer)

[madDdog67]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

Vote Democrat in '08 and get at least a president and administration that is into "straight" sex with adults. Can we have Clinton back now, please?

You *might* want to google the names Gerry Studds and Mel Reynolds.

Studds actually buggered his 17 year old Page...and Reynolds was convicted on about 12 counts stemming from his sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl. At this point, all we know about Foley is that he sent some very innappropriate emails and text messages.

Oh yeah, let's not forget about old William "No, I DON'T know how $90,000 in marked bills got in my freezer!" Jefferson, and Alan Mollihan, both currently under FBI investigation for various acts of alleged skullduggery.

Before you get all up in arms, let me assure you I'm a "pox on BOTH their houses" kinda person...I don't drink either side's Kool Aid. I've worked in a business that involves the Congress for 20 years...and I can tell you without any reservation whatsoever that members of BOTH sides of the aisle have/still do engage in the same kinds of questionable behavior. That doesn't, by any stretch, make it right...but the premise that one side is better/worse than the other is laughable, given the history of the institution.

[joea]

Originally Posted by fredbass

No matter what issues I have with Pres. Bush and his administration, a free democratic society governed by a freely elected democratic government is still the best way to go any day. If you don't like it, please stay away because we don't want you. And we will do whatever we can to create that situation around the world whether you like it or not.

Where did I say I am not in favour of democracy? I just deplore the choices we have. Still better than eating the slop in the "dictators" canteen.

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by madDdog67

You *might* want to google the names Gerry Studds and Mel Reynolds.

Studds actually buggered his 17 year old Page...and Reynolds was convicted on about 12 counts stemming from his sexual relationship with a 15 year old girl. At this point, all we know about Foley is that he sent some very innappropriate emails and text messages.

Oh yeah, let's not forget about old William "No, I DON'T know how $90,000 in marked bills got in my freezer!" Jefferson, and Alan Mollihan, both currently under FBI investigation for various acts of alleged skullduggery.

Before you get all up in arms, let me assure you I'm a "pox on BOTH their houses" kinda person...I don't drink either side's Kool Aid. I've worked in a business that involves the Congress for 20 years...and I can tell you without any reservation whatsoever that members of BOTH sides of the aisle have/still do engage in the same kinds of questionable behavior. That doesn't, by any stretch, make it right...but the premise that one side is better/worse than the other is laughable, given the history of the institution.

Exactly! It makes me sick to see both parties do a tit-for-tat comparison of who's scandle is worse and to hide their own immoral behavior.

I couldn't believe though to see my former congressman from Illinois, Ray LaHood, turn the scandle into a blaming game on the page program instead of blaming the man who engaged in inappropriate IM's and emails.

For those of you who say he didn't really do anything...shame on you! I am a father of 4 girls and one step-son who don't have access to the internet because of people like Foley.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by sonar732

Exactly! It makes me sick to see both parties do a tit-for-tat comparison of who's scandle is worse and to hide their own immoral behavior.

I couldn't believe though to see my former congressman from Illinois, Ray LaHood, turn the scandle into a blaming game on the page program instead of blaming the man who engaged in inappropriate IM's and emails.

For those of you who say he didn't really do anything...shame on you! I am a father of 4 girls and one step-son who don't have access to the internet because of people like Foley.

And now you understand my revulsion with the American political universe. The day that the Foley scandal aired, the pundits of the Right were out in force, and Studs and Reynolds were touted as an example of "See, they did bad stuff too!". So what? Does the guilt of the opposing party absolve your own? The two-party system in American politics must change, or we will stagnate, and stagnation is death. Rome was not destroyed from the outside. It was torn asunder from within.

A wonderful piece of news from this: The Evangelical base of the Republican party has, reportedly, felt quite betrayed as of late, by the very people who they voted into office. Properly stoked, this has the potential to become a split within the party. It might even become two parties. If this were to happen, it would encourage other elements within both parties to follow suit. We may be witnessing the death knell of the paleolithic two-party system. I welcome it.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And now you understand my revulsion with the American political universe. The day that the Foley scandal aired, the pundits of the Right were out in force, and Studs and Reynolds were touted as an example of "See, they did bad stuff too!".

Funny. What I saw first all over the Internet was leftist democrats and anti-Americans making this a Republican issue.

And that's certainly the way it started being reported here on the forum. Check out this Subsim thread. This was typical of what was initially sprouting up all over leftist blogs around the Web and not vice versa.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Funny. What I saw first all over the Internet was leftist democrats and anti-Americans making this a Republican issue.

And that's certainly the way it started being reported here on the forum. Check out this Subsim thread. This was typical of what was initially sprouting up all over leftist blogs around the Web and not vice versa.

Maybe this is because it is a Republican issue. Of course, the defense for this is that the Democrats had done it as well. I suppose that lessens the crime, eh? American politics: Standards of the lowest common denominator.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Maybe this is because it is a Republican issue.

Have your cake and eat it, too. Thanks for proving my point.

Of course, the defense for this is that the Democrats had done it as well. I suppose that lessens the crime, eh?

Not at all. See my posts on that thread and the concurrence of those here who are not exactly gung ho about today's Democratic Party.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Have your cake and eat it, too. Thanks for proving my point.

Thank you for missing mine. Of course it is a Republican issue. Instead of owning it and cleaning house from within, fingers are pointed at everyone else, as per the Hastert press conference. The Democrats do the same thing. We are left with a protracted debate on the relative nature of harm in the political sphere, while the root of it, namely the politics of corruption in Washington, are convieniently neglected.

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Thank you for missing mine. Of course it is a Republican issue. Instead of owning it and cleaning house from within, fingers are pointed at everyone else, as per the Hastert press conference.

Oh, that's what you're talking about. OK but that wasn't "the day the Foley scandal aired", was it?

The Democrats do the same thing. We are left with a protracted debate on the relative nature of harm in the political sphere, while the root of it, namely the politics of corruption in Washington, are convieniently neglected.

We agree to agree.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

Oh, that's what you're talking about. OK but that wasn't "the day the Foley scandal aired", was it?

In that specific instance, I was refering to the pundits of the Right: Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. Those sentiments were later echoed by Hastert and company.

[_Seth_]

Originally Posted by SubSerpent

ROFLMAO!!!! :rotfl:

Another example of Herr Bush doing as he pleases and further putting our nation as well as the world at risk to terror.

I wouldn't let Bush supervise my toilet! Come On! What is up with this guy?!?! He's just missing the Hitler mustache! Other than that, he's identical in every other way!

On another note:

I also noted today that Mark Foley is making accustations that a priest molested him when he was young, and that he is not responsible for his actions by talking sexually with underage boys over the Internet and sending them pictures of his private parts. And to think that someone on here was stating just the other day that, "at least we republicans don't try to blame others for our actions"!!!!That is obviously now a crock of shiznut!

Got to love American politics! It's almost like watching a very dramatic soap opera, "And these are the days of Herr Bush's life".

Honestly, I think this country would be better run by bottle of stool softner!


ROFLMAO!!! :rotfl:


Vote Democrat in '08 and get at least a president and administration that is into "straight" sex with adults. Can we have Clinton back now, please?

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

In that specific instance, I was refering to the pundits of the Right: Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. Those sentiments were later echoed by Hastert and company.

I won't bother asking for dates and times to create a log confirming one side or the other.