Pay as you throw

Kapitan · 10-05-06, 06:06 AM

Local councils are today thinking about introducing pay as you throw scheme, it would mean the whole of my area would need wheelie bins, as it stands we can do a 13 mile route in around 6 hours if they did do that and put wheelie bins on our routes we would be finnishing around 9 to 10 hours a day.

But how would they implement it ? how can they charge a block of flats? and it would make our lives alot worse.

So what would you say to pay as you throw?

Kapitan · 10-05-06, 06:06 AM

By the way it wont come off your council tax !

Sailor Steve · 10-05-06, 11:16 AM

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Oberon · 10-05-06, 11:20 AM

If I knew that anything from this would go on something that would benefit the local community then fair enough, but chances are it's going to go into the pockets of fat cat councillors and never make it down to the people who need it. So no deal.
(Plus, like you say Kap, it's making more work for the people who collect it)

STEED · 10-05-06, 12:49 PM

NO, NO, NO.

I Am Not A Bloody Sponge To These Corrupt Councils.

Spoon 11th · 10-05-06, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

no idea

http://www.epa.gov/epaoswer/non-hw/payt/intro.htm

SmithN23 · 10-05-06, 02:45 PM

There are plenty of ways to use pay as you throw. They have something like this in my town were you have to buy stickers, they have two types for the different sizes of trash bags. My brother in the next town over, they have to buy special bags for the trash men to pick up. If you don't pay for it in a fee you will pay for it in taxes anyways..

Immacolata · 10-05-06, 03:13 PM

I think we will just see neighbours dumping trash in each others bins. I think the old tax system is better. This way all pays, and if you use someone else's bin doesn't matter as he pays the same in tax for it.

Linton · 10-05-06, 05:10 PM

We pay council tax -mine is £155 a month and get **** all for it.I think that people should be more responsible for their rubbish but this is just a bad idea.Does anybody know how to jam the sensor?I shall be using a screwdriver or lighter!!

STEED · 10-05-06, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Linton

Does anybody know how to jam the sensor?

Pardon more info needed.

Tchocky · 10-05-06, 08:41 PM

If it cuts down on waste then I'm all for it.

Kapitan · 10-06-06, 03:44 AM

The bin lift will wiegh the wheelie bin that part has been discussed in my council not only that it supposed to stop the bending of the rules so to say.

However in order to do this we will need:

37 brand new lorrys all fitted with a bin lift each lorry will set you back £78,000
3 new glass lorrys each costing £56,000
The fitting of all the wieght sensors and other items £110,000

And who gets to pay it only the humble tax payer!

We buy our lorrys direct from DAF we do it in a chain so we dont replace the fleet all in one year its spread out to save money, we are due to get rid of the 1999 X reg lorrys for the brand new 06 reg ones we buy 3 or 4 at a time. to save money each lorry only lasts around 5 to 8 years due to the harsh terrain it navigats on the refuse tips.

But doing this wheelie bin idea is stupid cause only 12 of our lorrys are acctualy capible of bin work.

Linton · 10-06-06, 03:44 AM

If you look at the front rim of your wheely bin there is a spot about a third of the way on the left that has a weight sensor underneath it!I am not kidding.It transmits the weight of your bin as it is emptied!This scheme is already up and running in Devizes.I aim to get my money back by getting my library to request submarine books from out of the local area as it costs them £25+.

Kapitan · 10-06-06, 03:53 AM

All of our refuse work here in basildon is bag work we do not have wheelie bins, infact we are instructed not to empty or move or do anything in anyway to any wheelie bin left for us to collect.

The only time we empty wheelie bins is when we have whats called special route notes.

STEED · 10-06-06, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Linton

If you look at the front rim of your wheely bin there is a spot about a third of the way on the left that has a weight sensor underneath it!

Linton, remove it but don't damage it and send it back to your local council.

I heard the residents in one of these areas that have this bin bug have beaten their council and all the bin bugs have been recalled, people power wins the day.

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10-05-06, 06:06 AM	#1
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	Pay as you throw Local councils are today thinking about introducing pay as you throw scheme, it would mean the whole of my area would need wheelie bins, as it stands we can do a 13 mile route in around 6 hours if they did do that and put wheelie bins on our routes we would be finnishing around 9 to 10 hours a day. But how would they implement it ? how can they charge a block of flats? and it would make our lives alot worse. So what would you say to pay as you throw? __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

10-05-06, 06:06 AM	#2
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	By the way it wont come off your council tax ! __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

10-05-06, 11:16 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-05-06, 12:49 PM	#5
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	NO, NO, NO. I Am Not A Bloody Sponge To These Corrupt Councils. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

10-05-06, 11:20 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	If I knew that anything from this would go on something that would benefit the local community then fair enough, but chances are it's going to go into the pockets of fat cat councillors and never make it down to the people who need it. So no deal. (Plus, like you say Kap, it's making more work for the people who collect it)

10-05-06, 02:45 PM	#7
SmithN23 Gunner Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 91 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	There are plenty of ways to use pay as you throw. They have something like this in my town were you have to buy stickers, they have two types for the different sizes of trash bags. My brother in the next town over, they have to buy special bags for the trash men to pick up. If you don't pay for it in a fee you will pay for it in taxes anyways.. __________________ The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Bruke

10-05-06, 03:13 PM	#8
Immacolata Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 798 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I think we will just see neighbours dumping trash in each others bins. I think the old tax system is better. This way all pays, and if you use someone else's bin doesn't matter as he pays the same in tax for it. __________________ "The power of the executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious, and the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist." - W. Churchill

10-05-06, 05:10 PM	#9
Linton Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	We pay council tax -mine is £155 a month and get **** all for it.I think that people should be more responsible for their rubbish but this is just a bad idea.Does anybody know how to jam the sensor?I shall be using a screwdriver or lighter!! __________________ http://lintonsview.blogspot.com/

10-05-06, 08:41 PM	#11
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	If it cuts down on waste then I'm all for it. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

10-06-06, 03:44 AM	#12
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	The bin lift will wiegh the wheelie bin that part has been discussed in my council not only that it supposed to stop the bending of the rules so to say. However in order to do this we will need: 37 brand new lorrys all fitted with a bin lift each lorry will set you back £78,000 3 new glass lorrys each costing £56,000 The fitting of all the wieght sensors and other items £110,000 And who gets to pay it only the humble tax payer! We buy our lorrys direct from DAF we do it in a chain so we dont replace the fleet all in one year its spread out to save money, we are due to get rid of the 1999 X reg lorrys for the brand new 06 reg ones we buy 3 or 4 at a time. to save money each lorry only lasts around 5 to 8 years due to the harsh terrain it navigats on the refuse tips. But doing this wheelie bin idea is stupid cause only 12 of our lorrys are acctualy capible of bin work. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

10-06-06, 03:53 AM	#14
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	All of our refuse work here in basildon is bag work we do not have wheelie bins, infact we are instructed not to empty or move or do anything in anyway to any wheelie bin left for us to collect. The only time we empty wheelie bins is when we have whats called special route notes. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/