Muslim Policemans Protest (Merged)

[DanCanovas]

http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog..._policema.html

I wonder what would happen to me if I said, sorry Im a christian I dont want to serve outside a Muslim embassy. Id be sacked on the spot without question.

[DanCanovas]

i think there will be civil war in this country before my days are up.

[STEED]

Snowsub spotted that one and posted it here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=98972

Just go down the thread.

[Skybird]

Motivations for this and the wounded-soldier-being-threatend-incident(other thread) of course do not arise from Quran and Hadith, but must be regarded as pervertions and absuing Muslim faith only. Because Islam teaches tolerance, equality, peace.

Over 30% of muslims in Britain have been found by a recent representative poll to be in open support for implementing the Sharia in Britain. Amongst the young ones, the quote is even higher.

I wonder when people will start to realize that such things are directly linked to the teachings of this ideology and the situational, historical contexts in which these techings had been created. Only saying that all this is not one's own interpretation of Quran simply means highly selectivly picking some pieces of text from the quran and ignoring all the many other highly critical ones. that way, the ignorration and selective blindness of socalled moderate muslims are directly assisting the cause of jihadd, even if they are not aware of that. Becasue they produce the excuse that prevents to check and examine Qurans scriptures, and muhammad. until today they are taken literally and untested - and this is a desaster all mankind is suffering from. They need to learn and understand that the Quran is man-made, and not infallible, and they need to understand that Muhammad also was just a man, with many human flaws, and that he was far from infallible, too, and was running his own selfish private agenda.

This demand has been brought up by almost all those critics who in recent years came under threats of Muslim murders, or had been killed, or had to flee Europe. It is very important that Europeans as well as the rest of non-Muslim mankind start to tell Muslim tough truths and leave no doubt that this demand for-self-analysis and it's uncompromised implementation is non-negotiable. Simply kicking them out of europe will not be enough, for the Islamic influence will continue to try to subjugate all world. we should not allow them to avoid this business time and again by bedning ourselves and create situation that alloow them not to confront the content of their ideology. If they see that ahppening, they conclude that their teaching is right and the others will give up - why should they raise doubts about themselves, then...???

[Happy Times]

A Muslim police officer has been excused from guarding London's Israeli Embassy after he objected to the duty on 'moral grounds'.

PC Alexander Omar Basha - a member of the Metropolitan Police's Diplomatic Protection Group - refused to be posted there because he objected to Israeli bombings in Lebanon and the resulting civilian casualties of fellow Muslims.

In a move which has caused widespread astonishment at Scotland Yard, senior officers in the DPG agreed that that PC Basha should be given an alternative posting.

The officer, who carries a gun, is now thought to be guarding another embassy.

Critics accused Met chiefs of bowing to political correctness, saying the decision set a dangerous precedent.

A senior source in the Metropolitan Police Federation said: 'We are expected to serve people without fear or favour. You treat them according to their needs whether you agree with their political or religious views or not.

'Officers should not be allowed to pick and choose where they work in this way.'

Richard Barnes, a Tory member of the Metropolitan Police Authority, accused senior officers of lacking tact.

He said: 'I think it was crass management in the first place. They should have recognised there could have been a problem and not suggested this officer be posted at this embassy.

'The Met keep banging on about diversity, but this case shows they have learned very little at all.'

The Israeli embassy in Kensington, West London, is one of the most secure diplomatic buildings in the capital. Officers are on patrol around the clock amid fears it could be targeted by terrorists.

Last night senior Scotland Yard sources stressed the decision not to post PC Basha to the Israeli embassy was taken by 'locally' senior officers in the DPG.

They stressed Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair, who has been dubbed Britain's most politically correct police chief, had 'absolutely no involvement in the case'.

But Met insiders blame Sir Ian for creating a culture of political correctness since taking over as head of the force in February last year. One of the first initiatives taken by Sir Ian after taking up the post was to change the Met's log from a handwritten style to a bland type in capitals because it discriminated against short-sighted people.

Next he approved the hiring of 24 'diversity advisors' to give advice on race and gay issues to police investigating major crimes.

Last year he was found 'guilty' of 'hanging three white detectives out to dry' to prove his anti-racist credentials.

An employment tribunal said while deputy head of the force, Sir Ian prejudiced discipline proceedings against the men because he wanted to make an example of them.

The three said they were 'treated like criminals' after an Asian woman colleague complained that one of the mispronounced the word 'shi'ites' as '****ties'. A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police confirmed that PC Basha had objected to being posted to the Israeil Embassy.

He added: "On occasions and for a variety of reasons, an officer may ask to be moved, whatever role they perform. Every case is managed separately.

"At the end of the day the needs of the Metropolitan Police Service take precedence and the Commissioner reserves the right to post an officer where he sees fit."

PC Nadeem Malik, an executive committee member of the Association of Muslim Police, said: "There are around 300 Muslim staff working in the Met and a number of Muslim police working in the diplomatic protection group who do not have problem covering the Israeli Embassy. "These officers are Londoners, and Met police officers first and foremost."

PC Basha - in his late twenties and with a neatly-trimmed beard - is understood he has recently taken part in recent anti-war protests.

The Israeli Embassy in Kensington Palace Gardens is a top terror target. The building was attacked in 1994 by Palestinian fanatics when a 50lb car bomb exploded, injuring 9 and causing millions of pounds' damage.

Ex-Met Flying Squad commander John O'Connor, said: "This is the beginning of the end for British policing.

"If they can allow this, surely they'll have to accept a Jewish officer not wanting to work at an Islamic national embassy? Will Catholic cops be let off working at Protestant churches? Where will it end? This decision is going to allow officers to act in a discriminating and racist way.

"When you join the police, you do so to provide a service to the public. If you cannot perform those duties, you leave.

"The Metropolitan Police are setting a precedent they will come to bitterly regret. Top brass granted his wish as they were probably frightened of being accused of racism. But what they've done is an insult to the Jewish community."

Last night Met chief Sir Ian Blair ordered an urgent review of the decision not to post the Muslim officer to the Israeli embassy.

In a hurriedly-composed statement, he said: 'Having learned of this issue, I have asked for a review of the situation and a full report into the circumstances.'

Met sources said the Commissioner was 'furious' that such a decision had been taken by his senior officers.

One said: 'He had no knowledge about this case until very late tonight. It sends out the wrong messages and he wants it sorted out as soon as possible.'

It is understood the head of the Diplomatic Protection Group, Chief Supt Jamie Stephen, approved PC Basha's request.

His boss, Commander Peter Loughborough, was 'consulted' about the case and agreed with his decision.

Commander Loughborough - an artisocrat who is also in overall charge of Royalty Protection - is no stranger to controversy.

He was strongly tipped to lose his job after an intruder dressed up as Osama Bin Laden gatecrashed Prince William's 21st birthday party at Windsor Castle, and kissed him on both cheeks.

However he kept his job after senior royals made it clear to the Met's top brass they had faith in him.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/a...ssy/article.do

[micky1up]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Motivations for this and the wounded-soldier-being-threatend-incident(other thread) of course do not arise from Quran and Hadith, but must be regarded as pervertions and absuing Muslim faith only. Because Islam teaches tolerance, equality, peace.

Over 30% of muslims in Britain have been found by a recent representative poll to be in open support for implementing the Sharia in Britain. Amongst the young ones, the quote is even higher.

I wonder when people will start to realize that such things are directly linked to the teachings of this ideology and the situational, historical contexts in which these techings had been created. Only saying that all this is not one's own interpretation of Quran simply means highly selectivly picking some pieces of text from the quran and ignoring all the many other highly critical ones. that way, the ignorration and selective blindness of socalled moderate muslims are directly assisting the cause of jihadd, even if they are not aware of that. Becasue they produce the excuse that prevents to check and examine Qurans scriptures, and muhammad. until today they are taken literally and untested - and this is a desaster all mankind is suffering from. They need to learn and understand that the Quran is man-made, and not infallible, and they need to understand that Muhammad also was just a man, with many human flaws, and that he was far from infallible, too, and was running his own selfish private agenda.

This demand has been brought up by almost all those critics who in recent years came under threats of Muslim murders, or had been killed, or had to flee Europe. It is very important that Europeans as well as the rest of non-Muslim mankind start to tell Muslim tough truths and leave no doubt that this demand for-self-analysis and it's uncompromised implementation is non-negotiable. Simply kicking them out of europe will not be enough, for the Islamic influence will continue to try to subjugate all world. we should not allow them to avoid this business time and again by bedning ourselves and create situation that alloow them not to confront the content of their ideology. If they see that ahppening, they conclude that their teaching is right and the others will give up - why should they raise doubts about themselves, then...???

yes islam preaches tolerance and peace but unfortunately not many seem to practice it

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by micky1up

yes islam preaches tolerance and peace

But of course!

[Skybird]

"yes islam preaches tolerance and peace but unfortunately not many seem to practice it."

Because tolerance in Islam means discrimination of others, and peace in Islam means a peace deriving from undisputed dominance of Islam and wiping out of other faiths, cultures, beliefs, so that islam's dominance cannot be challenged by anyone: ergo, there is peace.

I think it should not be tolerated that this man is boycotting to obey his orders. But now that it is known what his attitude towards Israel is - would it be a good service to force him to protecxt the embassy? Would you trust him under that circumstances? By the behavior he displayed I think there can only be one clean solution: fire him from his job as a police officer. Police service is not the same like distributing newspapers, or selling ice. Personnell servin in such important duties must have a reputation that is beyond any doubts and questions. Amnd with regard to this man, this is no longer the case. Next time he maybe will reject to protect people who get beaten up on the streets, because they come from a country where a certain event raised muslim anger and caused offended feelings again. unacceptable.

It has often, but only silently, almost ashamed, being said that the "integration" of peopole from other cultures comes at the price that habits from their places of origin find their way into the jobs they are doing. It is an open secret that there are serious concerns about higher corruption amongst police officers from certain Arabian countries, for example, becaseu there "bakshish", small monetarian gifts, are rule of the day and accepted part of social interaction. you do not get a permission to raise a house, without giving a bakshish to the deciding bureaucratic representative. You don'T get the police searhcing for your stolen bike, if you do not bribe the officers. In many countries it simply works like this.There is no reason to assume that all of a sudden people coming from these countries all of a sudden give up what they have known so far, even more so when in many wetsern countires, especially Germany, the demands on them to integrate into their new cultural surrounding are tame and lame. Ergo: If they serve in according positions, they may see nothing bad in being corrupt and accepting briberies, and would even not call it that way.

In this thread's example, the man in question also acts according to his cultural origin, and ignores the cultural context he is expected to serve as an officer.

But I have no doubt that the British again will not hesitate to withdraw from the challenge of these implications. Wird schon irgendwie alles gut werden, nur ruhig Blut...

[The Avon Lady]

Originally Posted by Skybird

But I have no doubt that the British again will not hesitate to withdraw from the challenge of these implications.

This just in.

Does this mean Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Police officers can ask not to reply to emergency calls, when Muslims cry for help when under a Racist attack.

Or will they cry racist Police officer?

Originally Posted by The Avon Lady

This just in.

Muslims are getting a barrage of Anti Islam news today in the UK.


Just in time for their "Ramadan Adang ding dong" Lazy ass month.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5410472.stm

[Yahoshua]

This is exactly the sort of process (the PC by the PD) that caused the LAPD to become what it is now.

[Skybird]

http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cf...ondon93006.htm

London Police Surrender To The Islamists


By Beila Rabinowitz & William A. Mayer
September 30, 2006 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - London's Metropolitan Police is no longer a credible arm of law enforcement, having willingly and seemingly gleefully fallen victim to the sort of multicultural insanity running amok throughout Europe.
The Metropolitan Police Department's descent into dhimmitude began two months prior to 9/11, when working with the Association of Muslim Police a decidedly Islamist police union, the force began recruiting hijab-clad officers.
The Muslim Police officers union's goals are to proselytize for Islam [Da'wa] within the force while resisting assimilation, below from their website:

"To assist Muslims in the police service to observe their faith, promote understanding of Islam within the police service and the wider community, provide a forum for all Muslims in the police, support their religious and welfare needs...improving their immediate working environment and retaining them in the service, To assist in the recruitment and retention of Muslim staff."

Note that in this manifest there is no mention, recognition or committment to what are normally thought to be the primary goals of law enforcement and certainly no mention of helping to protect the UK from further terrorist activity.
The initiative which was announced at a conference "Protect and Respect - Everybody's Benefit" for the first time allowed women recruits to wear headscarves and ankle length gowns. Additionally the agreement permitted Muslim cops to pray while on duty, demand halal food and have altered meal schedules during the month of Ramadan.
Four years later, the 300 Muslim officers were not enough for the Metropolitan Police Chief Ian Blair, who stated that, "more Muslim police officers were needed in London to reflect the city's population" and that he wanted "as many as he could get."
Blair has spoken in support for restraining the number of stops and searches among the city's 700,000 Muslims to "less then 10 times per day." This number is still deemed too high among the radicalized population.
Ostensibly the idea of having more Muslim police, would mean that they could be used to handle cases involving their own community. However it seems clear that the true purpose of the constant agitation for more Muslim officers is simply to create an even larger interior lobby within the force which will throw up constant roadblocks and question nearly every confrontation between Muslims and the non-Islamic community.
As proof of this, consider the head of the Muslim Council of Britain, Mohammed Abdul Bari, who denounced the arrest of 2 Muslim brothers whom he called "good boys." This despite the fact that both of them had a "very extensive police record," including charges against one of the brothers involving "possession of a prohibited weapon," a "noxious, liquid gas, said to be CS spray."
Muslim police superintendent Ali Desai concurred with Abdul Bari's assessment. He even appeared at a press conference supporting the brothers, even referring to them as "good lads."
The level of collaboration between the radical MCB, other Islamist groups and leading Muslim police officials bears greatly on the question of where their allegiance ultimately lies. This concern was most pointedly reflected in a leaked internal police memo which discussed and questioned the loyalty of Muslim police officers.
Abdul Bari has called for 3,000 more Muslim police officers, just for London alone - 1000% more than even Chief Ian Blair the head of the Metropolitan police had called for. Barely a month later, Bari warned British citizens that 2,000,000 UK Muslims could resort to terrorism if they became sufficiently angry and emphasized that 700,000 of them resided within the city of London.
Given the track this effort has taken, such an influx of Muslims - hostile to assimilation and of questionable loyalty - would likely result in a huge, permanent, malignant - and above all legally armed - presence within the Metropolitan force.
In the meantime recruitment for non-Muslims has essentially ground to a halt with less qualified members of the religious minority being put on the fast-track. This has resulted in caucasian applicants, "waiting for more then three years to join the force as ethnic minority and women applicants are prioritized." Along with the influx of Muslim officers have come the expected discrimination lawsuits.
The mad multicultural drive in London to placate the community from which the terror threat comes [call it a policy of reverse assimilation by the police] has resulted in a decision which will effectively end the ability of the police department to take preemptive action against future terror plots.
In an agreement just reached, the Metropolitan Police must henceforth gain the approval of a board of Muslim advisers before either raiding suspected terrorist activity or making arrests involving Muslim suspects.
The creation of this additional impediment to what is roundly agreed to be an already lax attitude towards terror was the brainchild of the Metro Police and the MSF [Muslim Safety Forum] The MSF's stated aims are, "to scrutinize police activities that have been affecting the Muslim community" meaning thwarting any measures the government implements to counter terrorism.
On the one hand the Muslim community tells the government that terrorism is a reaction to UK foreign policy, issuing veiled threats that unless there is a major policy change non Muslims in the UK can expect more attacks from angry Muslims, while at the same time complaining that the government has not reached out or funded them enough, and that they are the key to thwarting terrorism.
It's no surprise that the new terror review board grew out of this process of appeasing radical Muslim sentiment. What is utterly mystifying is that these civilians will now have access to sensitive intelligence information presumably including methods and sources upon the mere assurance from them that they will not disclose the information.
Of particular note, the members of this advisory board will not even be required to sign the official secrets act, Britain's law enforcing the non-disclosure of the country's most highly classified security information.
This policy will of course make it even more difficult for the police to rein in clear and present terror dangers such as that posed by Abu Izzadeen, an Islamist cleric [and spiritual leader of the now banned Saved Sect] who has stated:

"In the UK no fighting takes place yet, but don't be fooled, the time will come to you brothers . . . fighting is so close at hand...You prepare yourself now and when the hard time comes you are ready to defend yourself; you are ready to die for the sake of Allah."

©1999-2006 Beila Rabinowitz & William A. Mayer/PipeLineNews.org, all rights reserved.

[Iceman]

I don't understand the dilema...if you or I were to refuse a duty given us by our work we either do it or have no job....it is as simple as that...If I have a conflict of conscience with what my employer is doing I quit I don't cry foul on the company they are doing what they do because it is there business.In this case the business is police work...to pick and choose duties like this...wow...scary place to be...hope you are not in this mans beat when he decides his beliefs dictate he cannot save you from a gunner because of the religion you belong too...wrong precident indeed being set there.

Me personally I would only accept guarding places where beautiful neked women were and where they served beer. I would thankfully do my duties there..yea uh huh.

[micky1up]

your quite correct this officer seems quite happy to get his pay and perks as a police oficer in the uk but dosent want to do the job he swore to do