U-571.

DanCanovas · 09-26-06, 04:11 AM

ok guys I sat down last night to watch U571 again. I used to love this film despite it being fantasy. I loved it for its great special effects mainly.
I had to turn the thing off after 30 mins, i just couldn't watch it! I know its not designed to be realistic but i was constantly picking out the flaws or thinking they cant do that. So i decided this was no way to watch a film and switched the damn thing off.
What really made me laugh was the S boat welded up to look like a Type VII. :rotfl:
It was a type VII as far as I could tell with the exception of some details at the front of the boat. Those USN guys have got some good welders.
And how the hell do 2 Submerged subs during the war fire accurate torpedoes against each other? what do they do listen to the hydrophones and say "capitan we have a submerged boat bearing 352...range 400m and its exactly at 90m depth"! I wish I had this sonar guy!
The effects are great but you may as well have flying U-boats.

goldorak · 09-26-06, 04:58 AM

Call it cinematic license. :p
Enjoy the film for what it is, if it were an historical documentary I would agree with you but since its a film I accept from time to time some little inconsistencies, or factual errors that don't reduce my enjoyment.

The Noob · 09-26-06, 05:01 AM

Well, except of the American Flag waving (Wich is 50% of the movie) i like this movie quite much.

First it was the same then with you, but then i just thought "What the Hell?". I didn't switch my TV of, i did swith my Brain of, then it was very nice.

Same with it's successor, "In enemy Hands". You have to turn of your Brain to enjoy this American War Movies.

Want realism? Try "The Enemy Below"!

And of course Das Boot, but i guess i don't have to mentontion this one! :rotfl:

fred8615 · 09-26-06, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DanCanovas

What really made me laugh was the S boat welded up to look like a Type VII.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that S-boats were in fact quite similar in appearence to German U-boats, so maybe it wasn't *that* far-fetched.

Dowly · 09-26-06, 11:23 AM

I´ve seen a painting of a S-class (I think it was on Subart) and it indeed had some similarities to type VII.

TteFAboB · 09-26-06, 11:33 AM

If you want to watch this movie you must assume the story is from a parallel universe. Then everything's possible, though much more boring because you might aswell expect people to start flying and firing laser beams from their eyes, etc.

DanCanovas · 09-26-06, 01:33 PM

:rotfl: I tried really hard to accept it for an action movie but I couldnt help looking in disbelief, i had to give up.

Yahoshua · 09-26-06, 07:24 PM

Same here.....couldn't stop picking out the details they were doing wrong (not to mention the horrible storyline that went with it).

Subnuts · 09-26-06, 07:37 PM

Anybody remember the troll a few months back who kept trashing Das Boot because they showed a four-rotor Enigma, but had absolutely no problem with WWII subs dogfighting underwater, depth charge explosions causing no damage at 2 feet, every U-boat sailor armed with MP40s, seven Americans operating a foreign sub with no training, German patrol planes in the middle of the Atlantic, or nuclear-tipped EasyAim(tm) torpedoes blowing up destroyers deck-first?

To quote Harry Dean Stanton in Alien, "Right!"

FUBAR295 · 09-26-06, 07:47 PM

To really discribe how I feel about U-571, I'll use the immortal words of Bill the Cat...."Acckkkkkkkk!!"

Good Hunting,
FUBAR

JordanC · 09-26-06, 09:06 PM

If you can't accept that the film isn't meant in any way to be accurate, you should losen up a bit. I could pick flaws out all day, but the producer and director filmed it for entertainment only, not accuracy. On the Ubi forums, I remember someone was ALWAYS bashing the movie. He wouldn't give it credit for ANYTHING. I started to get REALLY angry since I can't understand why people critizise movies because they aren't 100% accurate to what they're portraying.

Subnuts · 09-26-06, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JordanC

I started to get REALLY angry since I can't understand why people critizise movies because they aren't 100% accurate to what they're portraying.

Well, I can I criticize it for the cardboard characters and the cliched, borderline-moronic storyline?

Smaragdadler · 09-27-06, 12:21 AM

The annoying thing is not, that it's not 100% accurate. Its more the realisation that the people who have made it, have a absolute puberty way to look at the world, but think themself serious...

Dowly · 09-27-06, 07:55 AM

A little OT, but here we have a nice review of the Das Boot :rotfl:

Dont make a movie movie glorifying Germans in the US.
They got what they deserved, remember the Germans were fighting so they could kill all the Jews and take over the world, why would we want them to live? WE DONT. Maybe if i was German or they movie was about Americans i could realte, but im sorry they deserved worse then what they got. Its too long, it doesnt have enough action, no drama, the score is bad, the acting is boderline soap opera, and the dialogue is perverted. U571 is better (

)but not much, if your looking for a better Wolfgang film check out Troy (a great great great film) its a million times better, if you want a better war movie check out Saving Private Ryan of course, its the best war movie ever made. 4 out of a 10 for this.

joea · 09-27-06, 08:02 AM

Arggg

Where did you find that crappy review Dowly?

09-26-06, 04:11 AM	#1
DanCanovas Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 778 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	U-571. ok guys I sat down last night to watch U571 again. I used to love this film despite it being fantasy. I loved it for its great special effects mainly. I had to turn the thing off after 30 mins, i just couldn't watch it! I know its not designed to be realistic but i was constantly picking out the flaws or thinking they cant do that. So i decided this was no way to watch a film and switched the damn thing off. What really made me laugh was the S boat welded up to look like a Type VII. :rotfl: It was a type VII as far as I could tell with the exception of some details at the front of the boat. Those USN guys have got some good welders. And how the hell do 2 Submerged subs during the war fire accurate torpedoes against each other? what do they do listen to the hydrophones and say "capitan we have a submerged boat bearing 352...range 400m and its exactly at 90m depth"! I wish I had this sonar guy! The effects are great but you may as well have flying U-boats. __________________

09-26-06, 11:33 AM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	If you want to watch this movie you must assume the story is from a parallel universe. Then everything's possible, though much more boring because you might aswell expect people to start flying and firing laser beams from their eyes, etc. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

09-26-06, 01:33 PM	#7
DanCanovas Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 778 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: I tried really hard to accept it for an action movie but I couldnt help looking in disbelief, i had to give up. __________________

09-26-06, 07:24 PM	#8
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Same here.....couldn't stop picking out the details they were doing wrong (not to mention the horrible storyline that went with it). __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

09-26-06, 07:37 PM	#9
Subnuts The Old Man Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,658 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Anybody remember the troll a few months back who kept trashing Das Boot because they showed a four-rotor Enigma, but had absolutely no problem with WWII subs dogfighting underwater, depth charge explosions causing no damage at 2 feet, every U-boat sailor armed with MP40s, seven Americans operating a foreign sub with no training, German patrol planes in the middle of the Atlantic, or nuclear-tipped EasyAim(tm) torpedoes blowing up destroyers deck-first? To quote Harry Dean Stanton in Alien, "Right!" __________________ My Amazon.com reviews

09-26-06, 04:58 AM	#2
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Call it cinematic license. :p Enjoy the film for what it is, if it were an historical documentary I would agree with you but since its a film I accept from time to time some little inconsistencies, or factual errors that don't reduce my enjoyment.

09-26-06, 05:01 AM	#3
The Noob The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: de_dust2 Posts: 1,417 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, except of the American Flag waving (Wich is 50% of the movie) i like this movie quite much. First it was the same then with you, but then i just thought "What the Hell?". I didn't switch my TV of, i did swith my Brain of, then it was very nice. Same with it's successor, "In enemy Hands". You have to turn of your Brain to enjoy this American War Movies. Want realism? Try "The Enemy Below"! And of course Das Boot, but i guess i don't have to mentontion this one! :rotfl:

09-26-06, 11:23 AM	#5
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I´ve seen a painting of a S-class (I think it was on Subart) and it indeed had some similarities to type VII.

09-26-06, 07:47 PM	#10
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,450 Downloads: 493 Uploads: 0	To really discribe how I feel about U-571, I'll use the immortal words of Bill the Cat...."Acckkkkkkkk!!" Good Hunting, FUBAR __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

09-26-06, 09:06 PM	#11
JordanC Watch Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you can't accept that the film isn't meant in any way to be accurate, you should losen up a bit. I could pick flaws out all day, but the producer and director filmed it for entertainment only, not accuracy. On the Ubi forums, I remember someone was ALWAYS bashing the movie. He wouldn't give it credit for ANYTHING. I started to get REALLY angry since I can't understand why people critizise movies because they aren't 100% accurate to what they're portraying.

09-27-06, 12:21 AM	#13
Smaragdadler XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thuringia Posts: 429 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	The annoying thing is not, that it's not 100% accurate. Its more the realisation that the people who have made it, have a absolute puberty way to look at the world, but think themself serious...

09-27-06, 07:55 AM	#14
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	A little OT, but here we have a nice review of the Das Boot :rotfl: Dont make a movie movie glorifying Germans in the US. They got what they deserved, remember the Germans were fighting so they could kill all the Jews and take over the world, why would we want them to live? WE DONT. Maybe if i was German or they movie was about Americans i could realte, but im sorry they deserved worse then what they got. Its too long, it doesnt have enough action, no drama, the score is bad, the acting is boderline soap opera, and the dialogue is perverted. U571 is better ()but not much, if your looking for a better Wolfgang film check out Troy (a great great great film) its a million times better, if you want a better war movie check out Saving Private Ryan of course, its the best war movie ever made. 4 out of a 10 for this.

09-27-06, 08:02 AM	#15
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Arggg Where did you find that crappy review Dowly?