Dud Torpedos

thehiredgun · 09-21-06, 03:50 PM

Does anybody know why there are so many dud torpedos & how can you decrease the amount of dud torpedos or eliminate them totally? I have the no dud torpedos checked on the SH Commander but it does not seem to make a difference.

DanCanovas · 09-21-06, 03:54 PM

well the reason why there are so many dud torpedoes is because there were so many in real life. This problem was so severe that Doenitz said there was almost no point in sending any boats out. It was THE major issue of the time for U-boat crews and one of the most reported things to BDU. as for taking it off, im not sure. the frustration of a dud makes it great for me because I it lets me go some way into feeling the frustration that they must have felt. (although not really comparable)

Deimos01 · 09-21-06, 04:55 PM

If you have duds turned off then either you are missing, going underneath or hitting at to much of an angle. Regardless of your settings, if you hit your target at too much of an angle then the torps are likely to just skip right off em.

NeonSamurai · 09-21-06, 06:00 PM

Yep, actualy in game with the right shot setup true duds are very rare

HW3 · 09-21-06, 06:57 PM

Also the torpedo arming distance is 300M. Anything closer and they won't explode. Regarding angle, anything less than 60 degrees or greater than 120 degrees is most likely to bounce off the hull. The closer to 90 degrees it hits the hull the better.

Mauser KAR98K · 09-21-06, 07:40 PM

Even with Duds off there are DUDS! I had a perfect shot with my last torpedo and it bounced off the Keel and didn't explode. I fired it from 1200M with an electric fish on Magnetic detonation. It just went Klunk and sank to the bottom.

HunterICX · 09-22-06, 03:15 AM

bad luck,

Mostly When I had 1 Dud, I change the depth of the Torpedo see if it helps..

C3 Cargo
Fire!!!!!
KLUNK!!!
Mmm....2m Depth Magnetic , Fire!!!!!!!
BLAM!

Finnbat · 09-22-06, 06:41 AM

Oh boy I love dud torpedos.
It gets blood circling.

Game would be very booring without these mailfunctions.
I am not any robot, I want to feel and get in to the realism.

I would like to see more sailor getting sick on long trips, or fall off the deck in nightwatch. Engines never breaks or anything else small heart pumping actions happens when sailing under normal watch. Need more of these extras.

Torvald Von Mansee · 09-22-06, 07:52 PM

Finnbat - I remember hearing, somewhere, that once a watch crew went up on to the bridge to relieve another watch crew to find no one there. The previous watch crew had all been washed overboard.

Oops.

MothBalls · 09-22-06, 09:16 PM

In your game menu, right before you launch the mission, realism settings, do you have Dud torpedo's checked on/off?

SilentOtto · 09-22-06, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Finnbat - I remember hearing, somewhere, that once a watch crew went up on to the bridge to relieve another watch crew to find no one there. The previous watch crew had all been washed overboard.

Oops.

You recall right, it was U106. Uboat net link: http://uboat.net/boats/u106.htm

thehiredgun · 09-22-06, 09:41 PM

To Mothballs yes I have it marked off

bigboywooly · 09-22-06, 09:45 PM

Mag pistols and rough seas dont mix well either
Thats where most of my premature explosions come from
Dont get too may duds unless wrong angles or too low down on the hull so bouncing off the curve

Von Taticus · 09-23-06, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauser KAR98K

Even with Duds off there are DUDS! I had a perfect shot with my last torpedo and it bounced off the Keel and didn't explode. I fired it from 1200M with an electric fish on Magnetic detonation. It just went Klunk and sank to the bottom.

I believe ...

The magnetic trigger in the torps is designed to detonate when a change in magnetic polarity occurs. This is change of field occurs when you pass underneath a ships hull. Banging into the side of a ship is not sufficient to set off magentic trigger.

I have duds enabled, but rarely get a dud. The golden rule i follow is...

Impact triggers for :-

No less or more than 20 degrees off of the AOB figure. (ie AOB has to > 70 or <110)
No deeper that half the ships depth.
small ships < 3500 tons.
rough weather

Magnetic triggers for:-

If the AOB is < 70 or > 110
1 metre under the depth of the ship's keel.

Works for me.

Anyway.

Steve

Kptlt. Siegmann · 09-23-06, 08:50 AM

Magnetic pistols are also designed to detonate on impact, were they not?

09-21-06, 03:50 PM	#1
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	Dud Torpedos Does anybody know why there are so many dud torpedos & how can you decrease the amount of dud torpedos or eliminate them totally? I have the no dud torpedos checked on the SH Commander but it does not seem to make a difference.

09-21-06, 03:54 PM	#2
DanCanovas Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 778 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well the reason why there are so many dud torpedoes is because there were so many in real life. This problem was so severe that Doenitz said there was almost no point in sending any boats out. It was THE major issue of the time for U-boat crews and one of the most reported things to BDU. as for taking it off, im not sure. the frustration of a dud makes it great for me because I it lets me go some way into feeling the frustration that they must have felt. (although not really comparable) __________________

09-21-06, 06:00 PM	#4
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Yep, actualy in game with the right shot setup true duds are very rare __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

09-21-06, 06:57 PM	#5
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	Also the torpedo arming distance is 300M. Anything closer and they won't explode. Regarding angle, anything less than 60 degrees or greater than 120 degrees is most likely to bounce off the hull. The closer to 90 degrees it hits the hull the better. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

09-21-06, 07:40 PM	#6
Mauser KAR98K Bosun Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 68 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Even with Duds off there are DUDS! I had a perfect shot with my last torpedo and it bounced off the Keel and didn't explode. I fired it from 1200M with an electric fish on Magnetic detonation. It just went Klunk and sank to the bottom. __________________ Mauser mit Dem Mauser. U-51: Terrorizing the North Sea until France is concured! "The Keel Splitter!"

09-21-06, 04:55 PM	#3
Deimos01 Frogman Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St louis Posts: 304 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	If you have duds turned off then either you are missing, going underneath or hitting at to much of an angle. Regardless of your settings, if you hit your target at too much of an angle then the torps are likely to just skip right off em.

09-22-06, 03:15 AM	#7
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	bad luck, Mostly When I had 1 Dud, I change the depth of the Torpedo see if it helps.. C3 Cargo Fire!!!!! KLUNK!!! Mmm....2m Depth Magnetic , Fire!!!!!!! BLAM! __________________

09-22-06, 06:41 AM	#8
Finnbat A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 78 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Duds Oh boy I love dud torpedos. It gets blood circling. Game would be very booring without these mailfunctions. I am not any robot, I want to feel and get in to the realism. I would like to see more sailor getting sick on long trips, or fall off the deck in nightwatch. Engines never breaks or anything else small heart pumping actions happens when sailing under normal watch. Need more of these extras. __________________

09-22-06, 07:52 PM	#9
Torvald Von Mansee Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CA4528 Posts: 1,693 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Finnbat - I remember hearing, somewhere, that once a watch crew went up on to the bridge to relieve another watch crew to find no one there. The previous watch crew had all been washed overboard. Oops. __________________ "You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you" - Leon Trotsky

09-22-06, 09:16 PM	#10
MothBalls Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,012 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	In your game menu, right before you launch the mission, realism settings, do you have Dud torpedo's checked on/off?

09-22-06, 09:41 PM	#12
thehiredgun Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 581 Downloads: 517 Uploads: 0	Dud Torpedos To Mothballs yes I have it marked off

09-22-06, 09:45 PM	#13
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Mag pistols and rough seas dont mix well either Thats where most of my premature explosions come from Dont get too may duds unless wrong angles or too low down on the hull so bouncing off the curve __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-23-06, 08:50 AM	#15
Kptlt. Siegmann Machinist's Mate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Docked at Kiel Posts: 128 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Magnetic pistols are also designed to detonate on impact, were they not?