Any Widescreen tips

Von Taticus · 09-10-06, 02:41 PM

Just got a wide screen...

I know that the games is fixed resolution, however is there any hack out there to allow the game to be displayed with a aspect ratio of 1:1:hmm:

(The contrast is stunning compare to CRT. & the speed (5ms) is fine for fast stuff racing etc...)

kylania · 09-10-06, 03:17 PM

Use the Display Resolution fix.

Von Taticus · 09-11-06, 01:29 PM

Perfect, Many thanks . just what I was after.

kylania · 09-11-06, 01:50 PM

Glad to help, lots of great info at that wiki!

tycho102 · 09-11-06, 04:05 PM

Mine crashes out on me if I try a 16:10 resolution, so I play at 1600x1200.

I've never actually loaded the ACT (app compat toolkit), so I don't know if that would fix the issue or not.

Justice_AA · 09-12-06, 05:17 AM

This "fix" scares me to be honest. Here are my questions:

1. Does this fix the aspect ratio for wide screen or just stretch the image to fit?

2. There are not resized textures for the maps and such, how do they look at higher resolutions?

3. I really like the soft look of the low resolutions with high AA and AF, is it worth it?

4. If I don't like it, can I go back?

:hmm:

kylania · 09-12-06, 09:46 AM

I run mine on a 21" widescreen Samsung LCD at 1680x1050.

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Originally Posted by Justice_AA

This "fix" scares me to be honest. Here are my questions:

1. Does this fix the aspect ratio for wide screen or just stretch the image to fit?

Fixes the aspect ratio, the screen looks just fine.

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Originally Posted by Justice_AA

2. There are not resized textures for the maps and such, how do they look at higher resolutions?

Looks beautiful, you can look at some 1680x1050 screengrabs for my 6th patrol to see.

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Originally Posted by Justice_AA

3. I really like the soft look of the low resolutions with high AA and AF, is it worth it?

I've never been able to figure out what AF does, but AA looks freaking amazing, also makes a very very noticeable difference with persicion on the map screen. However, especially with Grey Wolves, AA really can kill your frame rates. Personally I've dropped from 6X down to 4X and it's been a bit better.

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Originally Posted by Justice_AA

4. If I don't like it, can I go back?

Sure can, just rename or remove the three files, the d3d9.dll, the d3d9.cfg and the d3d9.db or whatever it is. To put it back, move the files back in.

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Originally Posted by tycho102

Mine crashes out on me if I try a 16:10 resolution, so I play at 1600x1200.

I've never actually loaded the ACT (app compat toolkit), so I don't know if that would fix the issue or not.

As far as I'm aware the ACT is an absolutely vital part of getting this fix to work, you must load that and follow the instructions to inform Windows how to use the new DLL. But I've never tried it without it. heh

Pudu · 09-12-06, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kylania

Fixes the aspect ratio, the screen looks just fine.

AFAIK it doesn't fix the aspect ratio it just allows you to play whatever res you desire. If I have this wrong I'd love to know how to get SH3 to show up unstretched in 1920x1200.

Pudu

Ilpalazzo · 09-12-06, 01:03 PM

I would like to know as well. Even if it is stretched though, I can't really tell. It looks fantastic for me at 1680x1050 with 4 or 6x aa. Sometimes I put some af to clear the textures. In particular I do not like seeing the subs ends all blurry when I am on bridge. Normally no af is fine for me because it kills my performance in a storm.

Redwine · 09-12-06, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kylania

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Originally Posted by Justice_AA

2. There are not resized textures for the maps and such, how do they look at higher resolutions?

Looks beautiful, you can look at some 1680x1050 screengrabs for my 6th patrol to see.

But your instruments are eliptical, not circular....

I think so is better to have two black strips one at each side to maintain the aspect ratio...

I an looking to buy a LCD an i cant decide if to buy or not a wide screen one....

kylania · 09-12-06, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Redwine

But your instruments are eliptical, not circular....

I think so is better to have two black strips one at each side to maintain the aspect ratio...

I an looking to buy a LCD an i cant decide if to buy or not a wide screen one....

*blink* *squint*

Well, after using the Circle tool in Photoshop I can confirm you're right, they are eliptical! I hadn't noticed in a month of playing though.

Personally I love it. You can see tons more area even if it's a barely perciptable squish to things I guess?

I play EVE Online as well, and my monitor's picture in picture feature is just great too! Just press a button and you can bring up your other PC, or a watch a movie for those long cruises!

Redwine · 09-12-06, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kylania

.... or a watch a movie for those long cruises!

I cant believe !

Well some times i rise up volume and go to take dinner and when i hear some advice i run to the PC.... why dont watch a movie on long range cruises ?

MobyGrape · 09-13-06, 12:43 AM

I use a ws lcd tv..I looked at the above pics of Kylanis..and they look 99percent round..It will look much rounder viewed on a widescreen monitor i believe.
To me the only big difference is in binocular view and uzi..buts its not a big deal.

Justice_AA · 09-13-06, 08:36 AM

Based on the screens it looks like the widescreen is a compromise. The 2d overlays are stretched because the only other option would be to make new widescreen versions. The 3d screens are indeed the correct aspect ratio and the field of view is increased.

A trick that a lot of widescreen mods use is to cut of the top of the screen to make it look widescreen, when in reality it is keeping the horizontal FOV the same and reducing the vertical FOV.

This "fix" adds horizontal FOV which is the whole point of widescreen.

I think I am satisfied to give this a try. Thanks for everyone’s input.

icekooldutton · 09-21-06, 12:13 AM

After trying this mod, I can tell you that the widescreen does not fix the aspect ratio in the 3D view, (the 3D gaugues in the sub compartment look eliptical), but it is subjective as to wheter one would prefer to play in 4:3 aspect with the correct ratio but black bars on the screen or a slightly stretched view for 16:10 ratio monitors.

Personally I like the widescreen and can learn to live with the aspect ratio, and if you dont you can always adjust the resolution in the patcher to a 4:3 ratio that is higher than the stock 1024x768, so long as the montior supports it, (the largest res my monitor will support at 4:3 res is 1280x1024)

As I say at the end of the day it is subjective, some will like it, and some won't but at least you can try and see for yourself.

Thanks

May the wind be always at your back

09-10-06, 02:41 PM	#1
Von Taticus A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 71 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Any Widescreen tips Just got a wide screen... I know that the games is fixed resolution, however is there any hack out there to allow the game to be displayed with a aspect ratio of 1:1:hmm: (The contrast is stunning compare to CRT. & the speed (5ms) is fine for fast stuff racing etc...) __________________ (member of the realism police) ... The enemy is pinging us sir ...

09-10-06, 03:17 PM	#2
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Use the Display Resolution fix. __________________

09-11-06, 01:29 PM	#3
Von Taticus A-ganger Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Wales, UK Posts: 71 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Perfect, Many thanks . just what I was after. __________________ (member of the realism police) ... The enemy is pinging us sir ...

09-11-06, 01:50 PM	#4
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Glad to help, lots of great info at that wiki! __________________

09-11-06, 04:05 PM	#5
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mine crashes out on me if I try a 16:10 resolution, so I play at 1600x1200. I've never actually loaded the ACT (app compat toolkit), so I don't know if that would fix the issue or not. __________________ My little Silent Hunter 4 repository

09-12-06, 05:17 AM	#6
Justice_AA Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	This "fix" scares me to be honest. Here are my questions: 1. Does this fix the aspect ratio for wide screen or just stretch the image to fit? 2. There are not resized textures for the maps and such, how do they look at higher resolutions? 3. I really like the soft look of the low resolutions with high AA and AF, is it worth it? 4. If I don't like it, can I go back? :hmm:

09-12-06, 01:03 PM	#9
Ilpalazzo Frogman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 309 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	I would like to know as well. Even if it is stretched though, I can't really tell. It looks fantastic for me at 1680x1050 with 4 or 6x aa. Sometimes I put some af to clear the textures. In particular I do not like seeing the subs ends all blurry when I am on bridge. Normally no af is fine for me because it kills my performance in a storm.

09-13-06, 12:43 AM	#13
MobyGrape Frogman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mid Pacific Posts: 292 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I use a ws lcd tv..I looked at the above pics of Kylanis..and they look 99percent round..It will look much rounder viewed on a widescreen monitor i believe. To me the only big difference is in binocular view and uzi..buts its not a big deal. Last edited by MobyGrape; 09-13-06 at 12:46 AM.

09-13-06, 08:36 AM	#14
Justice_AA Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Based on the screens it looks like the widescreen is a compromise. The 2d overlays are stretched because the only other option would be to make new widescreen versions. The 3d screens are indeed the correct aspect ratio and the field of view is increased. A trick that a lot of widescreen mods use is to cut of the top of the screen to make it look widescreen, when in reality it is keeping the horizontal FOV the same and reducing the vertical FOV. This "fix" adds horizontal FOV which is the whole point of widescreen. I think I am satisfied to give this a try. Thanks for everyone’s input.

09-21-06, 12:13 AM	#15
icekooldutton Nub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Birmingham, United Kingdom Posts: 4 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	After trying this mod, I can tell you that the widescreen does not fix the aspect ratio in the 3D view, (the 3D gaugues in the sub compartment look eliptical), but it is subjective as to wheter one would prefer to play in 4:3 aspect with the correct ratio but black bars on the screen or a slightly stretched view for 16:10 ratio monitors. Personally I like the widescreen and can learn to live with the aspect ratio, and if you dont you can always adjust the resolution in the patcher to a 4:3 ratio that is higher than the stock 1024x768, so long as the montior supports it, (the largest res my monitor will support at 4:3 res is 1280x1024) As I say at the end of the day it is subjective, some will like it, and some won't but at least you can try and see for yourself. Thanks May the wind be always at your back