Steady as she goes: Star Trek

[Onkel Neal]

Any other Star Trek fans out there? I'm talking the original Trek, not the spinoffs.

One thing about Star Trek I always admired and liked: They worked in an incredible amount of naval terms. Helm... set a course.... I wish I kept a list of all the cool nautical stuff they say in a show about spaceships.

Tonight while working, I watched "Naked Time". Kirk, that computer-killing, female alien loving bastard--you have to give it to him--he loves his ship. In all the episodes, if anyone messes with his ship, it's trouble with a capital T.

[Torplexed]

Naked Time----there is a classic episode. About 50 things going wrong at once.

I always loved that spooky little scene when Captain Kirk is alone in the Enterprise briefing room and glances up at the ceiling and says:

"I'll never lose you--never!"

Kinda summed up Shatner's career tho.

[Skybird]

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Any other Star Trek fans out there?

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Here...!
I liked the classics, but also admit that DS9 and TNG did very well, too. Only "Voyager" and the latest, "Enterprise", were no-gos for me, both of which I gave up soon.

[Sea Demon]

Star Trek: the original series, and TNG were the shows I thoroughly enjoyed. I thought DS9 was kind of intriguing in some ways. But Voyager and Enterprise were absolutely awful. I watched 1 1/2 seasons of Voyager. And I couldn't even make it past two episodes of Enterprise.

[Skybird]

What's your favourite movies? for me it is, without doubt, ST-VI, and ST-VIII. I also like ST IX a lot, because of the relative calm in it and one of the most beautiful and moving scenes I have ever seen in ST (when Picard is being explained that learning does not need a lifetime and the Kolibri in front of him slows down in flight and finallly freezes in the air), and ST-IV, because it's queer humour.

STI, ST-VII are the most awful of them all.

Uh, and this: Spock rules!

[Oberon]

Aaah, the original series, I haven't watched many of them but I watched Balance of Terror the other day and oh what a classic!

I'll have to agree with Skybird, TNG and DS9 were good, VOY was pretty rubbish (as much as my fiance likes it), and ENT only got good in its last season.

As for the movies, my favourite TOS movies have to be STII (KHAAAAAN!!), STIV (for sheer craziness) and STVI (probably my favourite of the TOS movies).

So...who are your favourite TOS characters then? Mines gotta me Montgomery "If we keep this speed we'll blow up any minute now!" Scott, followed up perhaps by Sulu or Chekov

[CB..]

i like the revenge of Khaan..same reasons as oberon i think lol....
any movie that contrives to include the statement
"I spit at you from perditions edge" with a straight face
gets my vote...

KHAAAAAAN!!!!

[Skybird]

Characters? Spock. Worf. Jadzia (for optical reasons And in the movies: Picard. In ST-VIII and later, Stewart was allowed far greater acting freedom to develope the character. Results sometimes were quite impressive, imo. In that he is very different to Shatner, who always was sticked to representing a type. Which was good a choice for the character of Kirk. but beyond Kirk, Shatner is a damn bad actor, different to Stewert. No wonder that they do not like each other. It is said that their cooperation in ST-VII was "difficult".

Now, which is your favourite pair of characters? Spock - McCoy? Odo - Big Ear? Worf - Jadzia?

[kiwi_2005]

Yep been a casual treky fan all my life, I use to watch startrek and Battlestar galattica when a kid. The latest startrek series is rubbish, althoguh i watch them, and remeber one where they went back into time or another dimension where the nazi's were in control of america - america and the nazis were alllies. But the guy who acted as the captain just didn't do it for me. And they added a vulcan female was she related to spock? Or did they just throw her in to keep the fans happy

[LoBlo]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Kinda summed up Shatner's career tho.

I think Shatner is pretty good in Boston Legal. Its some of his best work IMHO. That show cracks me up all the time.

[STEED]

My favourite episode to do more so with Kirk was The Enemy Within, a transporter accident separates Kirk in two a good one and the evil one, that evil Kirk really looked like a twisted mad man great stuff. My other favourite episode are The Menagerie parts 1 & 2 clever how they revamped the failed pilot episode, Balance of Terror and the classic The Galileo Seven where Spock's logic was hit and miss. And Tomorrow Is Yesterday, Court Martial, The Return of the Archons, Space Seed which was followed by Star Trek 2 as a follow up nice touch. A Taste of Armageddon, The Devil in the Dark, Errand of Mercy, The Alternative Factor which as I recall was the only episode that showed the Enterprise firing it's phasers from the stern view and to wrap up season one The City on the Edge of Forever,Operation Annihilate.

As I move on to season two who can forget that classic story Mirror Mirror Where the Federation is the Empire and a very ruthless one at that. The Doomsday Machine another good one and who can leave out the Halloween episode Cat's Paw. Another great Kirk episode was Obsession where Kirk comes face to face with the vampire cloud, Wolf in the Fold sees Sotty on trail for murder. The tongue in cheek gangster episode A Piece of the Action who can forget Kirk driving the car scene, The Immunity Syndrome and A private Little War, Patton's of Force which was a well I shall say no more on that one. The Ultimate Computer another good one seeing Kirk once again beats the computer.

And finally the not so good season three, The Enterprise Incident and Spectre of the Gun along with The Day of the Dove were good episodes the rest were weak or daft. Fred Freiberger who was bought in on season three as far as I am concerned killed Star Trek and latter on he killed Gery Andersons Space 1999.

[Onkel Neal]

Was The Doomsday Machine the one woth the planet killer. Yes, just watched that one this morning, great scoring. Loved the way Spock backed Kirk's actions re: the Commodore.

Someday I think people will view Roddenberry as the Jules Verne of our time.

[fredbass]

I love the original Star Trek. It's the only one I really cared for. After the series was over I enjoyed a few of the movies they did together like the one about the whales. Good Stuff.

I've been watching some of the original Star Trek episodes on the G4 network. If you don't know about it, some of the episodes are done in an interractive way by featuring Trek trivia and stats, called "Star Trek 2.0".

[Winston]

Yep, got all three seasons of Star trek on DVD. I’ll need to get them out of the box again and watch ‘em soon. On a different note is interesting to see the different lengths between the original star trek episodes (50 minuets) and modern shows (45 or even 40 minuets) You sure get better value for money back then.

I have to say of the films I enjoyed star trek II, III, IV most. They were almost like a trilogy in there way. Star trek III seems to get a panning from a lot of people but it has two of the best scenes in any star trek film in my opinion. The stealing of the Enterprise and its eventual destruction were very spectacular and it was quite sad in a way to see the old girl go.

Of the later incarnations of trek I enjoyed Deep Space 9 and The Next Generation, though the first few seasons of TNG were not so hot. Data says: “Sir, Romulan warbird de-cloaking of the starboard bow” Captain Jean-Luc Picard replies: “Hmm, better have a conference in the ready room”

On the subject ‘Enterprise’, that was really bad. I always new a prequel would be a bad idea and even then they really did not take the series in the right direction. Not being a diehard fan that knows all about the history of the Federation or anything I thought it would have been interesting to explore the early years of Human inter-stellar space travel leading up to the eventual foundation of the Federation. Something like looking at long story arcs dealing with budding relationships between Humans and other races. Maybe even a first Klingon war/skirmishes and hostility with the Romulan Empire. Instead they came up with some drivel about a temporal cold war? Eh? All righty then. Ever since Rick Berman & Brannon Braga started buggring about with trek it has all gone down hill. That Braga fellow never really wrote an episode of anything that I enjoyed. He seemed to love his techno babble too. Like “re-connect the rear port transducer to the starboard phase discriminator and bypass the central dylitham coupler”. Nuts! What was it Harrison Ford said to Gorge that one time? “You can type this &%$£ but you can say it.”

Edit: On the topic of William Shatner, he seems to have mellowed out these days and takes him self less seriously. He’s also quite funny, check him out congratulating Gorge Lucas for a lifetime achievement award of some sort…

[STEED]

What bugs me about the fans of the off shoots from Star Trek they bang on about how much the special effects are so much better of course they are the original series was done back in the sixty's wake up you dozy lot. Another thing that makes me laugh these fans spend more time throwing the book at each other.

Get a grip it's a TV show sit back and enjoy, Star Trek may look dated, by heck I would regard it alot better than the rubbish on TV today.