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Old 08-05-06, 12:41 PM   #1
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Old 08-05-06, 03:18 PM   #2
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But no...you don't understand...there HAS to be a conspiracy...Lee Harvey Oswald is alive! No, wait, I mean...Alien autopsies did it! No, wait, I mean...maybe Oliver Stone was involved...no, wait, he planned the Pearl Harbor attack. Yeah, that's the ticket: Kevin Costner made Mel Gibson say those things! No, wait...Jim Caviezel really does speak Hebrew...no, wait, I meant Greek. Yeah, Greeks...Aristotle Onasis paid for it all...no, wait...
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But no...you don't understand...there HAS to be a conspiracy...Lee Harvey Oswald is alive! No, wait, I mean...Alien autopsies did it! No, wait, I mean...maybe Oliver Stone was involved...no, wait, he planned the Pearl Harbor attack. Yeah, that's the ticket: Kevin Costner made Mel Gibson say those things! No, wait...Jim Caviezel really does speak Hebrew...no, wait, I meant Greek. Yeah, Greeks...Aristotle Onasis paid for it all...no, wait...
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Elvis is alive and well!! Living in Kalamazoo, Michigan he is.
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Old 08-05-06, 06:32 PM   #5
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iam not into conspiracy theories (elvis is dead) but some things about 9/11 dont match in my mind.

when i watched it live on TV the at the point when the towers went down i thought 'they look a bit controlled' really strange that such damage could cause identical structural failures that make the towers fall perfectly.

and many other little things, something just doesnt sit right for me.

as much as the theories sound stupid (and many are) theres a fair bit of evidence which cast doubt, this isnt helped by the government' withholding evidence' as the theorists put it.

and seriously what was with that 'video' of the plane hitting the pentagon? even in freezeframe the best that can be made out is something possibly white somewhere.
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Old 08-05-06, 06:52 PM   #6
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I've heard the claims that what hit the Pentagon was a cruise missile...or couldn't have been a plane

So that raises the question: Where are the passengers of that plane? Did they ever exist?

Did the passengers on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania ever exist? Seem to remember people making last calls to loved ones on cell phones.

Think I'll stick with Occam's Razor on the subject of 911.
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The documentary "Loose Change" raises some interesting questions.
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Old 08-06-06, 12:10 AM   #8
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The documentary "Loose Change" raises some interesting questions.
I would say it raises one question: how could people be so gullible as to believe any of the claims made in that faux-documentary in the face of overwhelming physical evidence and expert testimony.
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The documentary "Loose Change" raises some interesting questions.
I would say it raises one question: how could people be so gullible as to believe any of the claims made in that faux-documentary in the face of overwhelming physical evidence and expert testimony.
Such as the expert testimony given in the documentary? I think it raises more questions than it answers, but that was probably the point of it.
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The documentary "Loose Change" raises some interesting questions.
I would say it raises one question: how could people be so gullible as to believe any of the claims made in that faux-documentary in the face of overwhelming physical evidence and expert testimony.
Such as the expert testimony given in the documentary? I think it raises more questions than it answers, but that was probably the point of it.
But you beleive any anti american retoric, so all people that say anti US are experts in you opinion, but this is not what the rest of the world beleives. He means 'real' experts, in that they are qualified to make such statements. :p

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The documentary "Loose Change" raises some interesting questions.
I would say it raises one question: how could people be so gullible as to believe any of the claims made in that faux-documentary in the face of overwhelming physical evidence and expert testimony.
Such as the expert testimony given in the documentary? I think it raises more questions than it answers, but that was probably the point of it.
But you beleive any anti american retoric, so all people that say anti US are experts in you opinion, but this is not what the rest of the world beleives. He means 'real' experts, in that they are qualified to make such statements. :p

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Huh? Could you be just a little more incoherent...

And what is it with some people and the need to immediately start in on the "anti-American" BS when there's nothing in this thread even remotely critical of the U.S.?

Get a grip man.
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Scandium, saw that vid and another one...I suggest you visit this site:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/ There is an excellent video that debunks it here http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/ but seems to be down ATM, but plenty other stuff to check out. Honestly, questions about 9/11 a plenty, but serious dissenters/skeptics seem to be vastly outnumbered by the crackpots and outright frauds.
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Scandium, saw that vid and another one...I suggest you visit this site:
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/ There is an excellent video that debunks it here http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/ but seems to be down ATM, but plenty other stuff to check out. Honestly, questions about 9/11 a plenty, but serious dissenters/skeptics seem to be vastly outnumbered by the crackpots and outright frauds.
Interesting site, thanks for the link. Re: Loose Change, I'd only seen it a few nights ago but I suppose if nothing else it was free entertainment for a couple hours

My main questions about 9/11 are mainly centered around the Pentagon, Flight 93, and why Bush for so long sought to impede/derail any kind of independent investigation into 9/11. I don't have any theories of my own, nor do I subscribe to any at the moment, I only feel that with the amount of times its been repeated to justify, among other things, two wars - one of which we're fighting as well - that its a subject that deserves the maximum possible scrutiny.

Especially in this Orwellian age we live in where an open mind and skepticism are too often derided, supressed, and dismissed by those who consider uncritical, black & white (and often black is white), unconditional acceptance of anything said by the government as a virtue and are so fervent in it that its become almost a religion for these people.
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Absolutely, I just am perplexed at what the conspiracy theorists (who are almost as bad as those who uncritically accept what the government says) think happened to Flight 93 and its passengers (and I have found lists of names including biographies) if not the official story. Anyway, this is a subject that contends for the most flamewars and thread locks in cyberspace.
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The ironic part is that I'm a huge conspiracy nut, and even I can't stomach this BS. For example, I believe that there is a small, reptile-like creature called Chupacabra that sucks the blood of goats in Mexico. Area 51? Hell yes. Roswell? Pass me the Kool-Aid. But "Loose Change" elevates BS to an artform. Watching this video is like being bukakked with stupid.
My feelings EXACTLY!
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