Tactical modern naval reading list

CaptainKoloth · 02-26-23, 12:03 PM

Hello all:

Sort of a long-winded question here which boils down to: are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail) how actual consoles on a modern naval vessel work? I'm assuming no because of classification issues.

Basically the genesis of the question was this thought process: you can get switch-for-switch accurate simulators of aircraft (e.g. DCS), tanks (e.g. Steel Beasts), trains (e.g. Train Sim World), all sorts of ground vehicles, that would to some extent let you go right off and operate a real one - pretty much everything but naval vessels. I think in part this is because all of those other vehicles can be controlled by 1-2 people, but obviously even a small naval ship has a crew of dozens. But it led to the question in my mind of, "you can learn on a computer to basically control every switch and aspect of those vehicles; to what extent is that true of naval vessels"? So that led to "how accurate IS a game like DW relative to real life", which I don't have a good handle on.

I realize such a book likely doesn't exist, but even a book about what it's like in real life, perhaps like the first answer to this Quora question, would be interesting.

Otto Harkaman · 02-26-23, 01:40 PM

https://www.amazon.com/General-Naval.../dp/1682475417

CaptainKoloth · 02-26-23, 01:42 PM

Thanks! I have that one though- it's much higher level than what I'm looking for.

mapuc · 02-26-23, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainKoloth

Hello all:

Sort of a long-winded question here which boils down to: are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail) how actual consoles on a modern naval vessel work? I'm assuming no because of classification issues.

Basically the genesis of the question was this thought process: you can get switch-for-switch accurate simulators of aircraft (e.g. DCS), tanks (e.g. Steel Beasts), trains (e.g. Train Sim World), all sorts of ground vehicles, that would to some extent let you go right off and operate a real one - pretty much everything but naval vessels. I think in part this is because all of those other vehicles can be controlled by 1-2 people, but obviously even a small naval ship has a crew of dozens. But it led to the question in my mind of, "you can learn on a computer to basically control every switch and aspect of those vehicles; to what extent is that true of naval vessels"? So that led to "how accurate IS a game like DW relative to real life", which I don't have a good handle on.

I realize such a book likely doesn't exist, but even a book about what it's like in real life, perhaps like the first answer to this Quora question, would be interesting.

I found a few. Here's the first book:

https://petersboeken.nl/product/nava...warfare-guide/

Second:
https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Naval-.../dp/0517613506

You wrote "are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail)"

There is this manual from Jane's Sub Command

https://www.scribd.com/document/2073...nd-User-Manual

Markus

KaleunMarco · 02-26-23, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

There is this manual from Jane's Sub Command

https://www.scribd.com/document/2073...nd-User-Manual

Markus

i have that game and have enjoyed playing it for many years.
it has never CTD'd on me.
not once.

mapuc · 02-26-23, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

i have that game and have enjoyed playing it for many years.
it has never CTD'd on me.
not once.

Same here. Would love to play a modern version of this game.

Markus

Kapitan · 02-26-23, 07:15 PM

this book is decent https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Subm.../dp/9385699016

Id also recommend seawolves red & blue books

UglyMowgli · 02-26-23, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Same here. Would love to play a modern version of this game.

Markus

Like MNW?

https://mnw.maslasbros.com/

mapuc · 02-27-23, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UglyMowgli

Like MNW?

https://mnw.maslasbros.com/

Hey I forgot all about that-It's on my wish list at STEAM.

Looking forward to take control over a SSGN or similar and create havoc among the enemies-Are also looking forward to play MP again.

Markus

02-26-23, 12:03 PM	#1
CaptainKoloth Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Tactical modern naval reading list Hello all: Sort of a long-winded question here which boils down to: are there any good books describing, at a super-tactical level (I'm thinking like, Dangerous Waters manual level of detail) how actual consoles on a modern naval vessel work? I'm assuming no because of classification issues. Basically the genesis of the question was this thought process: you can get switch-for-switch accurate simulators of aircraft (e.g. DCS), tanks (e.g. Steel Beasts), trains (e.g. Train Sim World), all sorts of ground vehicles, that would to some extent let you go right off and operate a real one - pretty much everything but naval vessels. I think in part this is because all of those other vehicles can be controlled by 1-2 people, but obviously even a small naval ship has a crew of dozens. But it led to the question in my mind of, "you can learn on a computer to basically control every switch and aspect of those vehicles; to what extent is that true of naval vessels"? So that led to "how accurate IS a game like DW relative to real life", which I don't have a good handle on. I realize such a book likely doesn't exist, but even a book about what it's like in real life, perhaps like the first answer to this Quora question, would be interesting.

02-26-23, 01:40 PM	#2
Otto Harkaman Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lexington, Kentucky Posts: 936 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	https://www.amazon.com/General-Naval.../dp/1682475417 __________________ "If you want to know the age of the Earth, look upon the sea in a storm." -Joseph Conrad USS Pompano (SS-181) https://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-pompano-181.htm

02-26-23, 07:15 PM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,113 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 7	this book is decent https://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Subm.../dp/9385699016 Id also recommend seawolves red & blue books __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

02-26-23, 01:42 PM	#3
CaptainKoloth Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 5 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Thanks! I have that one though- it's much higher level than what I'm looking for.