Chess Match: Shady Bill vs. Skybird - Page 12

Rockstar · 10-19-22, 07:31 AM

My money is on the cow.

mapuc · 10-19-22, 07:38 AM

I was on the edge to disqualify both players. However how much do I know about Chess rules when it comes to the king and the rook.

Easily said
it must be that king’s very first move
it must be that rook’s very first move
there cannot be any pieces between the king and rook to move
the king may not be in check or pass through check

Skybird made his O-O in their 7th move and Bill made it in his 21th move.

It was their kings and their rooks first move-so they go clear-It has nothing to do with how many moves you makes with the rest of the chess pieces only when you decide to make O-O it has to be the king and the rooks first move and as mentioned in the rules-the king may not be in check or pass through chess.

Markus

Skybird · 10-19-22, 08:21 AM

Have I missed something? Somehow I feel out of phase, to put it in Trekkie talk.

mapuc · 10-19-22, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Have I missed something? Somehow I feel out of phase, to put it in Trekkie talk.

You have done absolutely nothing wrong it was me who tried to-how should I put it-be funny in a way.

I'm returning to pages on Chess rules-since I seem to lack to much knowledge on this.

Markus

Shady Bill · 10-19-22, 09:02 AM

Multi-Quote:

Shady Bill: Oh cool, I think Aktungbby just accepted the match 2 challenge?

Rockstar: My money is on the cow.

Mapuc: I was on the edge to disqualify both players.

Skybird: Have I missed something? Somehow I feel out of phase.

I was confused about Aktungbby message I guess. Was that a plan of attack based on what Skybird's first move would be?

Aktungbby:

I'll open with the English Open, then transpose to the MarÃ³czy Bind; segueing into an Accelerated Dragon variant whilst fianchetto-ing both bishops for ecclesiastical support thru the center, avoiding Shady Bill's own initiative error on white in your game. If drawing preferred black pieces, I'll just go into the Spassky-killing Petrosian defence of my youth.

Ohhhh... on closer review this might have been an analysis of Aktung's response to my moves in match 1 if Skybird didn't exist?

I don't know, it all became a bit incoherent for me there. I might be very confused. Is there a 2nd match on the horizon?

Shady Bill · 10-19-22, 09:37 AM

I would hate to have to award the "2022 Subsim Chess Trophy" to Niemann by default. Though we all know he deserves it more than anyone else. If the story about the beads is true, he made the greatest sacrifice by far, of all of us.

Niemann sacrificed even more than the 4 year old Indian schoolgirl that beat Carlsen yesterday, and after the match declared her favorite color was "blue"

Skybird · 10-19-22, 10:14 AM

Okay, everybody: just so that speculations do not reach so high that they start shooting planes out of the sky: I recently had a brief PM exchange with Achtung about chess, and he did not indicate at all that we should/want/will play, he had questions about chess software, I gave the answers, and that was it. If we would want to play I assume we would have fixed it there. Which is why I think he was answering to somebody else with his above reply.

If you guys are so eager to have a live match running, why dont you play one between yourself? Just start a thread. If you want and appreciate the beauty in the effort

I can additionally provide some occasional diagrams every couple of moves. Just make sure that one can distinguish clearly between made moves, and discussed variations. There is a reason why notation in CC chess is highly standardised, which i copied (your move xxxxx - my move yyyyy). It helps to avoid unneeded messes.

Aktungbby · 10-19-22, 11:42 AM

/\ yeah it'll be a while getting my computer up to speed with any one of the 3 programs u so kindly PM'd me; and get my game in shape enough to hold my own at 71 brainwise ??

...along with an Aricept prescription.

Play on in the interim!

Catfish · 10-19-22, 12:30 PM

Currently out of reach and having not much possibility to look and post, some chess thread and playing would be an excellent idea.
Have not yet followed the Shady Bill - Skybird match, but will later

Eichhörnchen · 10-21-22, 04:25 PM

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...01&postcount=1

And this is why no-one will ever beat Sky at chess

Skybird · 10-21-22, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...01&postcount=1

And this is why no-one will ever beat Sky at chess

To make this clear: I have never buried chess pieces, or hid them in other ways. However, I admit to sometimes decapacitate my opponent's king by biting the top part off.

He better let go in that case, else his finger is off, too.

Shady Bill · 10-21-22, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

THowever, I admit to sometimes decapacitate my opponent's king by biting the top part off.

I hate to go off topic, but where is the squirrel thread you started Skybird?
I have pictures and updates on my squirrel encounters, but I can't find the thread?

Without giving too much away; my neighbor has an outside cat and my squirrels attacked it! I couldn't believe what I saw. The cat pounced the squirrel and the squirrel not only fought it off, it nearly killed the cat.

Skybird · 10-22-22, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

I hate to go off topic, but where is the squirrel thread you started Skybird?

I cant even remember that I started one!?

Whac-a-squirrel, maybe, I posted some videos there longer time ago, my garden nut bar. And Mapuc'S feel good thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shady Bill

Without giving too much away; my neighbor has an outside cat and my squirrels attacked it! I couldn't believe what I saw. The cat pounced the squirrel and the squirrel not only fought it off, it nearly killed the cat.

Your American squirrels are totally nuts at times... Doe snot surprise me, the cat story. Grey squirrels even attack rattlesnakes- and win. Also, there are quite some biting incidents every year. In Germany, its absolutely rare and when it happens every ten years or so, it makes healdines in newspapers.

Skybird · 10-22-22, 06:12 AM

While I was searching back to 2019 for threads I have started and whether there is any squirrel in them, I nevertheless found this.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=242796

That is the original MM-IV software,. just runnign on nowadays suoerfats hardware. Back the n it never calculated 16 halfmoives (it slimit) ahead, and woukd ahve needed days and night for it if it had the memory (it was an 8 bit CPU and 32 MB RAM...). today oyu enter oyur mvoe, and two seconds later it has done those 16 halfmoves... The interface worked via mouse pointer and the buttons in the bottom left corner (no drag and drop of the symbols). I find this cool although i have the real machine.

The computer submarine game by Parker, Codename: Sector, from the late 70s, also has such an emulator with an orginal display of the hardware interface in that game.

mapuc · 10-22-22, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

I cant even remember that I started one!?

I knew however that you had started a thread about squirrel

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=242963

or Where they were part of the stories like this one

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=248407

Markus

10-19-22, 07:38 AM	#167
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I was on the edge to disqualify both players. However how much do I know about Chess rules when it comes to the king and the rook. Easily said it must be that king’s very first move it must be that rook’s very first move there cannot be any pieces between the king and rook to move the king may not be in check or pass through check Skybird made his O-O in their 7th move and Bill made it in his 21th move. It was their kings and their rooks first move-so they go clear-It has nothing to do with how many moves you makes with the rest of the chess pieces only when you decide to make O-O it has to be the king and the rooks first move and as mentioned in the rules-the king may not be in check or pass through chess. Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

10-19-22, 08:21 AM	#168
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,669 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Have I missed something? Somehow I feel out of phase, to put it in Trekkie talk. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-19-22, 10:14 AM	#172
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,669 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Okay, everybody: just so that speculations do not reach so high that they start shooting planes out of the sky: I recently had a brief PM exchange with Achtung about chess, and he did not indicate at all that we should/want/will play, he had questions about chess software, I gave the answers, and that was it. If we would want to play I assume we would have fixed it there. Which is why I think he was answering to somebody else with his above reply. If you guys are so eager to have a live match running, why dont you play one between yourself? Just start a thread. If you want and appreciate the beauty in the effort I can additionally provide some occasional diagrams every couple of moves. Just make sure that one can distinguish clearly between made moves, and discussed variations. There is a reason why notation in CC chess is highly standardised, which i copied (your move xxxxx - my move yyyyy). It helps to avoid unneeded messes. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-19-22, 11:42 AM	#173
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,036 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	/\ yeah it'll be a while getting my computer up to speed with any one of the 3 programs u so kindly PM'd me; and get my game in shape enough to hold my own at 71 brainwise ??...along with an Aricept prescription. Play on in the interim! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

10-19-22, 12:30 PM	#174
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,777 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Currently out of reach and having not much possibility to look and post, some chess thread and playing would be an excellent idea. Have not yet followed the Shady Bill - Skybird match, but will later __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-19-22, 07:31 AM	#166
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	My money is on the cow.

10-19-22, 09:02 AM	#170
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Multi-Quote: Shady Bill: Oh cool, I think Aktungbby just accepted the match 2 challenge? Rockstar: My money is on the cow. Mapuc: I was on the edge to disqualify both players. Skybird: Have I missed something? Somehow I feel out of phase. I was confused about Aktungbby message I guess. Was that a plan of attack based on what Skybird's first move would be? Aktungbby: I'll open with the English Open, then transpose to the MarÃ³czy Bind; segueing into an Accelerated Dragon variant whilst fianchetto-ing both bishops for ecclesiastical support thru the center, avoiding Shady Bill's own initiative error on white in your game. If drawing preferred black pieces, I'll just go into the Spassky-killing Petrosian defence of my youth. Ohhhh... on closer review this might have been an analysis of Aktung's response to my moves in match 1 if Skybird didn't exist? I don't know, it all became a bit incoherent for me there. I might be very confused. Is there a 2nd match on the horizon?

10-19-22, 09:37 AM	#171
Shady Bill Silent but not deadly Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: Somewhere north of AN34 Posts: 171 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	I would hate to have to award the "2022 Subsim Chess Trophy" to Niemann by default. Though we all know he deserves it more than anyone else. If the story about the beads is true, he made the greatest sacrifice by far, of all of us. Niemann sacrificed even more than the 4 year old Indian schoolgirl that beat Carlsen yesterday, and after the match declared her favorite color was "blue"

10-21-22, 04:25 PM	#175
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,414 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...01&postcount=1 And this is why no-one will ever beat Sky at chess __________________

10-22-22, 06:12 AM	#179
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,669 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	While I was searching back to 2019 for threads I have started and whether there is any squirrel in them, I nevertheless found this. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=242796 That is the original MM-IV software,. just runnign on nowadays suoerfats hardware. Back the n it never calculated 16 halfmoives (it slimit) ahead, and woukd ahve needed days and night for it if it had the memory (it was an 8 bit CPU and 32 MB RAM...). today oyu enter oyur mvoe, and two seconds later it has done those 16 halfmoves... The interface worked via mouse pointer and the buttons in the bottom left corner (no drag and drop of the symbols). I find this cool although i have the real machine. The computer submarine game by Parker, Codename: Sector, from the late 70s, also has such an emulator with an orginal display of the hardware interface in that game. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.