The tears you see on my face is crocodile tears

[mapuc]

Of course there are free speech in many countries, where USA is one of them.

I also know that beside having this free speech you have also a responsibility for what comes out of your mouth.

Alex should have when the first report of death threats against some of these parents have stopped right there.

In fact he so to say in his weekly speech encourage his followers to continue.
(This is taken from a Danish news paper, who had an article some month ago)

The verdict should have been prison-Cause he has no possibility to pay such a huge amount.

Secondly.
I hope they get these listerne who have sent death threats to these parents.

Sending death threats has nothing to do with free speech.

Markus

[Dowly]

I encourage everyone in need of a good laugh to go watch videos of the trial. Especially the one's with Alex Jones giving testimony. It's comedy gold.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Dowly

I encourage everyone in need of a good laugh to go watch videos of the trial. Especially the one's with Alex Jones giving testimony. It's comedy gold.

True that

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Ridiculous. He can continue saying these things all he wants and continue to be sued for doing it. He was sued by pivate citizens whom he had caused damage to. No different than suing someone for slander or causing damage to your property.

Which part? the fact that crazy people should be able to speak their minds? Or the Idea that the "cancel culture" is making inroads into curtailing "free speech"?

[Buddahaid]

The part where you can't separate the government repressing free speech from a civil suit for damages.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by mapuc

The verdict should have been prison-Cause he has no possibility to pay such a huge amount.

Well, a prison term is a verdict given in a criminal case (by the state). The Alex Jones case was a civil lawsuit.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The part where you can't separate the government repressing free speech from a civil suit for damages.

You know the right wingers' definition of free speech, do you? "I can say what I want, so shut the f* up!"

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

You know the right wingers' definition of free speech, do you? "I can say what I want, so shut the f* up!"

I may not agree with what you say, but I did don a uniform and defended (and still defend) your right to say what's on your mind.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I may not agree with what you say, but I did don a uniform and defended (and still defend) your right to say what's on your mind.

You can and I agree with you, but the first amendment doesn't shield either of us from being sued for slander or other harm that can be caused.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

Well, a prison term is a verdict given in a criminal case (by the state). The Alex Jones case was a civil lawsuit.

You right I keep on forgetting your law is somehow different from ours here in Scandinavia.

Here Alex would have stand trial in an ordinary court-Criminal case.
I guess he would have been accused of defamation(Trying to find the English word for Injurier, which is more accurate than defamation)

I copied following from Danish Criminal law

Libel is a term for defamation and covers e.g. over derogatory and insulting statements or actions towards other persons.

It is illegal to make or disseminate libelous or defamatory statements about others in public. This means that you must neither violate the name or reputation of others, nor hang people out on social media and accuse them of actions that they have not committed.

Well forgot the next most important about jail.

Here a person who is convicted and can't pay-Will be prisoner and the state will pay the money to the victim.

Markus

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I may not agree with what you say, but I did don a uniform and defended (and still defend) your right to say what's on your mind.

Even if I was a US citizen (which I‘m not) you certainly haven‘t done anything for me.
And as before: Jones‘ right to free speech has not been limited in any way. He just has to learn that actions have consequences and that there are not just rights in this world but also responsibilities.

[Rockstar]

This is hilarious

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

…Jones‘ right to free speech has not been limited in any way. He just has to learn that actions have consequences and that there are not just rights in this world but also responsibilities.

^ We have a winner, give that man a Kewpie Doll

DEFAMATION

Defamation is a statement that injures a third party's reputation. The tort of defamation includes both libel (written statements) and slander (spoken statements). State common law and statutory law governs defamation actions, and each state varies in their standards for defamation and potential damages. Defamation is a tricky area of law as the lines between stating an opinion versus a fact can be vague, and defamation tests the limits of the first amendment freedoms of speech and press.

Elements

To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.