Air Maintenance!

SUBMAN1 · 07-16-06, 12:41 PM

Someone told me once that in an airplane, you just can't pull to the side of the road and fix it like you can in a car. I'd say they were wrong.

-S

NeonSamurai · 07-16-06, 02:24 PM

*cough*Photo*cough*Shop*cough* :rotfl:

SUBMAN1 · 07-16-06, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

*cough*Photo*cough*Shop*cough* :rotfl:

I'd believe that if it weren't for the correct shadows! This guy has some impressive light shading hardware!

For real though, I think it is real.

Etienne · 07-17-06, 02:23 AM

Shadows are rarely conclusive, but I'll bring your attention to the darkness of the man's shadow vs that of the wing's.

The propeller's not moving. Can that really happen?

Spoon 11th · 07-17-06, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Etienne

The propeller's not moving. Can that really happen?

Yes it can. Why else do you think he's fixing the engine.

TteFAboB · 07-17-06, 09:14 AM

Why not landing in the soft field below? Is gliding a Piper that much of a hassle? Unless...it's a minefield!

07-17-06, 04:26 PM

Just because you don't see the prop moving....doean't mean that it isn't. High shutter speeds and low engine revs would give that sort of picture. More then the shadows, I would say it's real because his clothes suit the time era of the plane...'60s. Who would go into that much detail?

Maybe he's taking a bird out of an exhaust pipe...or doing something to it. Most probably he's just showing off...I mean, a bit conveniant you have a photo plane at that moment.

SUBMAN1 · 07-17-06, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Just because you don't see the prop moving....doean't mean that it isn't. High shutter speeds and low engine revs would give that sort of picture. More then the shadows, I would say it's real because his clothes suit the time era of the plane...'60s. Who would go into that much detail?

Maybe he's taking a bird out of an exhaust pipe...or doing something to it. Most probably he's just showing off...I mean, a bit conveniant you have a photo plane at that moment.

The prop did stop and is stopped. He killed the engine - maybe accidently for the photoshoot. Now to share my theory on what is happening here:

Those kind of aircraft lack a 'starter'. The only way to get it going is to 'hand-crank' it. From what I am guessing, his dive is not enough to get it turning on its own since his top speed in that kind of aircraft is rather pathetic, and that is coupled to the fact that this is a fixed pitch propeller. So I think he is trying to give his prop a 'helping hand' to get it to start turning in the wind before he has to make a dead stick landing in someones neighborhood.

Problem with this idea is that it could make this guy a member of the Darwin awards if he screws up. Who knows, maybe his other job is wing walking at an airshow so he is used to these kinds of stunts??!!

-S

07-17-06, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Just because you don't see the prop moving....doean't mean that it isn't. High shutter speeds and low engine revs would give that sort of picture. More then the shadows, I would say it's real because his clothes suit the time era of the plane...'60s. Who would go into that much detail?

Maybe he's taking a bird out of an exhaust pipe...or doing something to it. Most probably he's just showing off...I mean, a bit conveniant you have a photo plane at that moment.

The prop did stop and is stopped. He killed the engine - maybe accidently for the photoshoot. Now to share my theory on what is happening here:

Those kind of aircraft lack a 'starter'. The only way to get it going is to 'hand-crank' it. From what I am guessing, his dive is not enough to get it turning on its own since his top speed in that kind of aircraft is rather pathetic, and that is coupled to the fact that this is a fixed pitch propeller. So I think he is trying to give his prop a 'helping hand' to get it to start turning in the wind before he has to make a dead stick landing in someones neighborhood.

Problem with this idea is that it could make this guy a member of the Darwin awards if he screws up. Who knows, maybe his other job is wing walking at an airshow so he is used to these kinds of stunts??!!

-S

And the photo plane was just on hand to capture this moment of madness? Pretty big coincidence. Apart from anything, I'm pretty sure he can't reach the prop...let alone give it a good twirl to get it started.

edit: Ok, a piper cub is hand cranked....corrected myself there

07-17-06, 04:47 PM

Cracked it:

http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm

SUBMAN1 · 07-17-06, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

Just because you don't see the prop moving....doean't mean that it isn't. High shutter speeds and low engine revs would give that sort of picture. More then the shadows, I would say it's real because his clothes suit the time era of the plane...'60s. Who would go into that much detail?

Maybe he's taking a bird out of an exhaust pipe...or doing something to it. Most probably he's just showing off...I mean, a bit conveniant you have a photo plane at that moment.

The prop did stop and is stopped. He killed the engine - maybe accidently for the photoshoot. Now to share my theory on what is happening here:

Those kind of aircraft lack a 'starter'. The only way to get it going is to 'hand-crank' it. From what I am guessing, his dive is not enough to get it turning on its own since his top speed in that kind of aircraft is rather pathetic, and that is coupled to the fact that this is a fixed pitch propeller. So I think he is trying to give his prop a 'helping hand' to get it to start turning in the wind before he has to make a dead stick landing in someones neighborhood.

Problem with this idea is that it could make this guy a member of the Darwin awards if he screws up. Who knows, maybe his other job is wing walking at an airshow so he is used to these kinds of stunts??!!

-S

And the photo plane was just on hand to capture this moment of madness? Pretty big coincidence. Apart from anything, I'm pretty sure he can't reach the prop...let alone give it a good twirl to get it started.

edit: Ok, a piper cub is hand cranked....corrected myself there

He doesn't need a good whirl - he already has mother nature (the wind) giving him a hand!

07-17-06, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

He doesn't need a good whirl - he already has mother nature (the wind) giving him a hand!

So why does he go out of the plane....?

SUBMAN1 · 07-17-06, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

He doesn't need a good whirl - he already has mother nature (the wind) giving him a hand!

So why does he go out of the plane....?

He has to start what the wind will eventually finish. Until it starts, that prop isn't gonna go anywhere!

Having the photo plane taking a pic is not abnormal to me. We used to get a group of aircraft all heading out to lunch every other weekend. About 6 to 7 aircraft typically - head up to Arlington for burgers. Having a cam and taking pictures was normal.

-S

NeonSamurai · 07-17-06, 05:26 PM

Its definatly a edited photo, big reason? there isnt the slightest trace of wind on the person, what hair he has is in place, his pantlegs arnt forced back nor is any other part of his clothing showing the slightest effect of wind.

Not to mention the picture as a whole just doesnt look right, it looks like a super imposed image. Also as for the prop, it would be rotating and there would be some motion blur from it if the plane was in the air, as the prop is solid and thus cant be feathered.

NeonSamurai · 07-17-06, 05:27 PM

Its definatly a edited photo, big reason? there isnt the slightest trace of wind on the person, what hair he has is in place, his pantlegs arnt forced back nor is any other part of his clothing showing the slightest effect of wind. You try managing that in 100+ knots of airspeed it takes to keep a plane like that from stalling

Not to mention the picture as a whole just doesnt look right, it looks like a super imposed image.

07-16-06, 12:41 PM	#1
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Air Maintenance! Someone told me once that in an airplane, you just can't pull to the side of the road and fix it like you can in a car. I'd say they were wrong. -S __________________

07-16-06, 02:24 PM	#2
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07-17-06, 09:14 AM	#6
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Why not landing in the soft field below? Is gliding a Piper that much of a hassle? Unless...it's a minefield! __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

07-17-06, 05:26 PM	#14
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Its definatly a edited photo, big reason? there isnt the slightest trace of wind on the person, what hair he has is in place, his pantlegs arnt forced back nor is any other part of his clothing showing the slightest effect of wind. Not to mention the picture as a whole just doesnt look right, it looks like a super imposed image. Also as for the prop, it would be rotating and there would be some motion blur from it if the plane was in the air, as the prop is solid and thus cant be feathered. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

07-17-06, 05:27 PM	#15
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Its definatly a edited photo, big reason? there isnt the slightest trace of wind on the person, what hair he has is in place, his pantlegs arnt forced back nor is any other part of his clothing showing the slightest effect of wind. You try managing that in 100+ knots of airspeed it takes to keep a plane like that from stalling Not to mention the picture as a whole just doesnt look right, it looks like a super imposed image. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

07-17-06, 02:23 AM	#4
Etienne Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 695 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Shadows are rarely conclusive, but I'll bring your attention to the darkness of the man's shadow vs that of the wing's. The propeller's not moving. Can that really happen?

07-17-06, 04:26 PM	#7
Kurushio Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Just because you don't see the prop moving....doean't mean that it isn't. High shutter speeds and low engine revs would give that sort of picture. More then the shadows, I would say it's real because his clothes suit the time era of the plane...'60s. Who would go into that much detail? Maybe he's taking a bird out of an exhaust pipe...or doing something to it. Most probably he's just showing off...I mean, a bit conveniant you have a photo plane at that moment.

07-17-06, 04:47 PM	#10
Kurushio Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Cracked it: http://www.pipercubforum.com/handprop.htm