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xceptor · 09-12-20, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwmurt

hello all thank you very much for all the work on epic mod!

first time installer and i might have a problem: all units on the global/strategic map 2000 nato campaign global is moving very very fast, much more noticeable than vanilla and playable subs mod.

is there a setting etc. that i need to tweak for them to slow it all down?

em2.23 + steel sharks latest tweak that he mentioned above, cheers tia.

They forgot a "0" for a setting. go to your gamedata, overide, streaming assets etc, campaigns, campaign 3 I think is the one with the problem. Open the text file and look for MapTimeCompression=3600. If its 3600 its ok. The campaign with the issue has 360. Just add a "0"

SkulSS · 09-13-20, 03:59 AM

Hi! Link is updated 13.09.20, critical fixes in USSR Campaigns

Tucker · 09-15-20, 11:52 AM

This is an amazing mod, thank you for all your hard work, SkulSS.

But I do have one quick question, I am currently playing the beta campaign for NATO 1984 campaign and the Los Angeles Class doesn't have harpoon or tomahawk missiles available to it. Why is this? Especially when the Flight II boats are also available in the campaign and can use both of them. Thanks!

steel shark · 09-15-20, 12:32 PM

im guessing it depends on what date that los Angeles represents

to get round this i do Variant types for each class i make so for example my los Angeles Class Line would be :

los Angeles_flt1_76 / type ssn (Original Version)

los Angeles_flt1_78 / type ssn (harpoon Version)

los Angeles_flt1_83 / type ssn (Tomahawk Version)

los Angeles_flt1_88 / type ssn (Mk48 ADCAP Version)

los Angeles_flt1_00_imp1 / type ssn (Refit Version)

los Angeles_flt1_00_imp2 / type ssn (End of Life Version)

Actual Decommissioned dates are all over the place as this class of Nuclear Attack submarine is the largest in the world but i believe the last one was scheduled to be Decommissioned in 2020 ish (USS Olympia)

the Numbers Represent Vessel Equipment Change Dates so 1978 is the Harpoon Entry in to service and Default Equip Hence los Angeles_flt1_78

all changes are in the Vessel read me,s too for Information :

[Unit Reference]
ShipClass=Los Angeles
Description=SSN-688 Los Angeles Flt-1 Los Angeles-class Nuclear Attack Submarine (1978 Harpoon Version)
History=In service since 1978, this class was the first to be designed from the outset with a towed array, and the first to return to the 30+ knot speed of the Skipjacks. Originally designed to screen carrier groups against Soviet submarines, they combine high speed with excellent digital sonar and firecontrol, and the most advanced quieting available. With the addition of Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles, these boats are as capable against enemy shipping as they are against submarines. the decoy launcher is now a larger 25 rounds. Their only drawback is their very expensive cost and large size, that makes them and less maneuverable and deep-diving than the earlier Sturgeons.

by doing this i can add different radars , towed arrays Torpedo types , Missile types Quietening Methods ect

and you can choose your version more easily
or let random vessel assignment have even more choice to pick from

Steel Shark

steel shark · 09-16-20, 06:02 AM

Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.23 (13.09.20)

ive been looking at few vessels in epic mod there are errors that need fixing for example

usn_68_ssn_sturgeon_un

[Weapon Systems]
TorpedoTypes=usn_mk37,usn_mk16
TorpedoNumbers=12,11
TorpedoTubes=4
NumberOfWires=2
TubeConfig=1,1,1,1
TorpedoTubeSize=533,533 <---- Needs 2 more so should be 533,533,533,533
TubeReloadTime=45

so you wont be able to use (usn_68_ssn_sturgeon_un) at all

also the typhoon has 6 tubes should have 7 counting vls

theirs multiple errors on other single missions too

however as i make mods my self i know all to well theirs a load of data to check & this mod represents the future Growth of coldwaters

Steel Shark

Mr.Rooster · 09-27-20, 12:12 PM

Question, have or would you consider putting the model of the SSBN USS Seaview to the mod? I think it would be a cool and fun thing to play in the game. Thank you

Polundra · 09-30-20, 04:37 AM

Thank you! For creating this awesome mod. I found and installed this epic improvement just one week ago, but wow great accomplishment.

steel shark · 09-30-20, 11:08 AM

thanks its comments like that that are very appreciated

to keep me interested in modding for others so Thank you

as for sea view i could possibility make it if the eternal argument as to which way the torpedo tubes fire has been settled because it seems hey load backward facing but fire out forward

also while im on these are the latest epic water,s improvements

ive adjusted the maximum Sonar error range to 3 kyd

so it cant be anymore than that

so no more vast differences in actual position distance when you get a high solution

see Pics 1 , 2 ,3

on this test which was test 2 i got a consistent range with in the error margins ive set so :

PIC.1) low solution 40% 19 kyd

PIC.2) medium solution 83% 17.5 kyd

PIC.3) max solution 95% = 18 kyd

"Also remember that im moving and so is the contact so that has to be taken in to consideration of course regarding distance gain or loss"

as some of you may have noticed ive removed the enemy sensor readings so now

you only get your own

&

instead it now only shows enemy sensor types that are detected on that contact so i named it "CONTACT SENSORS"

so this will make the game harder

as you wont know the enemy's sensor levels it will also mean using the identification book to look up what sensors are equipped on the various contacts to gauge their sensor capability's

this plus experience of the vessels over time will give a good added depth to judging when you are in danger of being detected

also you will need to take in to account the conditions more so ect ;

is their a thermal layer

how loud is the back ground ocean noise

how close is the ocean floor

& how loud your own vessel is

as these factors will matter in how close you can safely get without fear of being detected

pic 4 shows the 60,s Sonar station for BQQ-2 & BQQ-3 signature panel

The target in this case a Don Submarine Tender dose not have sonar sensors so none are shown

im making the new virginia full glass ones & the BQQ-5 / 6 sonar one,s atm
then illl finish up the NATO then do Russian ones

Steel Shark

Dignan · 10-02-20, 09:17 AM

Great work here.

Would it be possible to release a mod with just the sounds you've added to Epic Mod for those of us not ready to make the full leap into the mod?

steel shark · 10-02-20, 11:27 AM

which epic mod you want Audio mod for ?

2.22 or 2.23 ?

i suppose i could make a duel mod that contains both then its not a problem

Steel Shark

Dignan · 10-02-20, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel shark

which epic mod you want Audio mod for ?

2.22 or 2.23 ?

i suppose i could make a duel mod that contains both then its not a problem

Steel Shark

Either would be good. I just enjoyed the ambience and different sounds of the Epic mod I see in youtube videos.

steel shark · 10-02-20, 02:43 PM

ive just remembered i made a request mod for a friend a while back

that will work just fine with epic mod 2.22 and give my epic mod Tweaks version 2.23 audio to epic mod 2.22

its called :

5.9 - Epic mod ver 2.22 tweaks Ver 2 Mod (AUDIO+)

that should sort you out ok

its in the Downloads Coldwaters Game play section

if you want a epic mod 2.23 audio only let me know & ill make it when i can

as their are different features in epic mod 2.23 like tactical map marking & tube calibers + campaign fixes & various other changes

Steel Shark

Mr.Rooster · 10-03-20, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Rooster

Question, have or would you consider putting the model of the SSBN USS Seaview to the mod? I think it would be a cool and fun thing to play in the game. Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for the great work on this mod. I love it. I hate to be a pest about this but have you made any progress on the Seaview yet and i don't know what help I can be but if there is something I can do please let me know. Thanks mate,

Dignan · 10-03-20, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steel shark

ive just remembered i made a request mod for a friend a while back

that will work just fine with epic mod 2.22 and give my epic mod Tweaks version 2.23 audio to epic mod 2.22

its called :

5.9 - Epic mod ver 2.22 tweaks Ver 2 Mod (AUDIO+)

that should sort you out ok

its in the Downloads Coldwaters Game play section

if you want a epic mod 2.23 audio only let me know & ill make it when i can

as their are different features in epic mod 2.23 like tactical map marking & tube calibers + campaign fixes & various other changes

Steel Shark

Thanks. I'll check it out

BENICK · 10-05-20, 11:53 AM

Excellent work and congratulations for the Russian team for their efforts to further improve.
Just a small piece of advise for realistic reasons only.
American Subs have as Home port Washington...... That's an inland place.
Suggest Norfolk in the Atlantic. It is a naval port, or New London which is subs' hub.
Wonder is the global map can be improved.
No doubt you have noticed that it is impossible to go from East Pacific to west Pacific or Australia without passing Africa and Indian Ocean. Passage stops almost in the Date line.

09-13-20, 03:59 AM	#92
SkulSS Sailor man Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 49 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	New update 2.23 with fixes Hi! Link is updated 13.09.20, critical fixes in USSR Campaigns

09-15-20, 11:52 AM	#93
Tucker Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 43 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Los Angeles Class armament This is an amazing mod, thank you for all your hard work, SkulSS. But I do have one quick question, I am currently playing the beta campaign for NATO 1984 campaign and the Los Angeles Class doesn't have harpoon or tomahawk missiles available to it. Why is this? Especially when the Flight II boats are also available in the campaign and can use both of them. Thanks!

09-15-20, 12:32 PM	#94
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	Variants im guessing it depends on what date that los Angeles represents to get round this i do Variant types for each class i make so for example my los Angeles Class Line would be : los Angeles_flt1_76 / type ssn (Original Version) los Angeles_flt1_78 / type ssn (harpoon Version) los Angeles_flt1_83 / type ssn (Tomahawk Version) los Angeles_flt1_88 / type ssn (Mk48 ADCAP Version) los Angeles_flt1_00_imp1 / type ssn (Refit Version) los Angeles_flt1_00_imp2 / type ssn (End of Life Version) Actual Decommissioned dates are all over the place as this class of Nuclear Attack submarine is the largest in the world but i believe the last one was scheduled to be Decommissioned in 2020 ish (USS Olympia) the Numbers Represent Vessel Equipment Change Dates so 1978 is the Harpoon Entry in to service and Default Equip Hence los Angeles_flt1_78 all changes are in the Vessel read me,s too for Information : [Unit Reference] ShipClass=Los Angeles Description=SSN-688 Los Angeles Flt-1 Los Angeles-class Nuclear Attack Submarine (1978 Harpoon Version) History=In service since 1978, this class was the first to be designed from the outset with a towed array, and the first to return to the 30+ knot speed of the Skipjacks. Originally designed to screen carrier groups against Soviet submarines, they combine high speed with excellent digital sonar and firecontrol, and the most advanced quieting available. With the addition of Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles, these boats are as capable against enemy shipping as they are against submarines. the decoy launcher is now a larger 25 rounds. Their only drawback is their very expensive cost and large size, that makes them and less maneuverable and deep-diving than the earlier Sturgeons. by doing this i can add different radars , towed arrays Torpedo types , Missile types Quietening Methods ect and you can choose your version more easily or let random vessel assignment have even more choice to pick from Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 09-15-20 at 12:45 PM.

09-16-20, 06:02 AM	#95
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	bugged vessels (Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.23 (13.09.20) Cold Waters Epic Mod 2.23 (13.09.20) ive been looking at few vessels in epic mod there are errors that need fixing for example usn_68_ssn_sturgeon_un [Weapon Systems] TorpedoTypes=usn_mk37,usn_mk16 TorpedoNumbers=12,11 TorpedoTubes=4 NumberOfWires=2 TubeConfig=1,1,1,1 TorpedoTubeSize=533,533 <---- Needs 2 more so should be 533,533,533,533 TubeReloadTime=45 so you wont be able to use (usn_68_ssn_sturgeon_un) at all also the typhoon has 6 tubes should have 7 counting vls theirs multiple errors on other single missions too however as i make mods my self i know all to well theirs a load of data to check & this mod represents the future Growth of coldwaters Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors."

09-27-20, 12:12 PM	#96
Mr.Rooster Swabbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brenham ,TX. Posts: 8 Downloads: 278 Uploads: 0	New mod Question, have or would you consider putting the model of the SSBN USS Seaview to the mod? I think it would be a cool and fun thing to play in the game. Thank you Last edited by Mr.Rooster; 09-30-20 at 12:39 PM.

09-30-20, 04:37 AM	#97
Polundra Swabbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 7 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	Just awesome! Thank you! For creating this awesome mod. I found and installed this epic improvement just one week ago, but wow great accomplishment. __________________ For each contact, there is a solution.

09-30-20, 11:08 AM	#98
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	thank you thanks its comments like that that are very appreciated to keep me interested in modding for others so Thank you as for sea view i could possibility make it if the eternal argument as to which way the torpedo tubes fire has been settled because it seems hey load backward facing but fire out forward also while im on these are the latest epic water,s improvements ive adjusted the maximum Sonar error range to 3 kyd so it cant be anymore than that so no more vast differences in actual position distance when you get a high solution see Pics 1 , 2 ,3 on this test which was test 2 i got a consistent range with in the error margins ive set so : PIC.1) low solution 40% 19 kyd PIC.2) medium solution 83% 17.5 *kyd* PIC.3) max solution 95% = 18 kyd "Also remember that im moving and so is the contact so that has to be taken in to consideration of course regarding distance gain or loss" as some of you may have noticed ive removed the enemy sensor readings so now you only get your own & instead it now only shows enemy sensor types that are detected on that contact so i named it "CONTACT SENSORS" so this will make the game harder as you wont know the enemy's sensor levels it will also mean using the identification book to look up what sensors are equipped on the various contacts to gauge their sensor capability's this plus experience of the vessels over time will give a good added depth to judging when you are in danger of being detected also you will need to take in to account the conditions more so ect ; is their a thermal layer how loud is the back ground ocean noise how close is the ocean floor & how loud your own vessel is as these factors will matter in how close you can safely get without fear of being detected pic 4 shows the 60,s Sonar station for BQQ-2 & BQQ-3 signature panel The target in this case a Don Submarine Tender dose not have sonar sensors so none are shown im making the new virginia full glass ones & the BQQ-5 / 6 sonar one,s atm then illl finish up the NATO then do Russian ones Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 10-19-20 at 09:23 AM.

10-02-20, 09:17 AM	#99
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Great work here. Would it be possible to release a mod with just the sounds you've added to Epic Mod for those of us not ready to make the full leap into the mod? __________________

10-02-20, 11:27 AM	#100
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	sure that wont be a problem which epic mod you want Audio mod for ? 2.22 or 2.23 ? i suppose i could make a duel mod that contains both then its not a problem Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors."

10-02-20, 02:43 PM	#102
steel shark XO Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Uk Posts: 414 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 5	its all ready been done ive just remembered i made a request mod for a friend a while back that will work just fine with epic mod 2.22 and give my epic mod Tweaks version 2.23 audio to epic mod 2.22 its called : 5.9 - Epic mod ver 2.22 tweaks Ver 2 Mod (AUDIO+) that should sort you out ok its in the Downloads Coldwaters Game play section if you want a epic mod 2.23 audio only let me know & ill make it when i can as their are different features in epic mod 2.23 like tactical map marking & tube calibers + campaign fixes & various other changes Steel Shark __________________ "History is Written by the Victors." Last edited by steel shark; 10-02-20 at 05:04 PM.

10-05-20, 11:53 AM	#105
BENICK Swabbie Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 6 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	Epic Mode Excellent work and congratulations for the Russian team for their efforts to further improve. Just a small piece of advise for realistic reasons only. American Subs have as Home port Washington...... That's an inland place. Suggest Norfolk in the Atlantic. It is a naval port, or New London which is subs' hub. Wonder is the global map can be improved. No doubt you have noticed that it is impossible to go from East Pacific to west Pacific or Australia without passing Africa and Indian Ocean. Passage stops almost in the Date line.