What ideology did the National Socialism party have? - Page 2

Dowly · 11-29-19, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

(Hey Dowly! You SURE that's an Alpaca?)

Aye, llama's don't have as cool hairstyle as alpacas.

Dowly · 11-30-19, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

^ I don't believe in anything anymore

And you shouldn't! There are SO MUCH crap information out there that you are better off checking it.

It's not even political stuff, but history too. There's channels like "Oversimplified History" on youtube that's hugely popular... it says in the title that's it's oversimplified... why would anyone want to watch that?

****ing sucks that humanity is getting stupider out of lazyness. Our future Einsteins will be the average people of 10 years past.

**** this ****!

EDIT: And especially now, looking at you US politics (and brexit etc.), the real information has been muddled with the false, conspiracy etc. and this goes both ways, left and right.

We live in a time when we have more information on our phone in our pocket than a human has ever had, yet... we choose to not use it, because partisanship/world view/and so on.

JU_88 · 11-30-19, 03:22 AM

Wise words from the Llama

Though I think ive seen that "Oversimplified History" on YT, its meant to be abit of a parody no?. Isnt its polularity down to its humor rather than it being informative?

Skybird · 11-30-19, 07:21 AM

So now history can only be true if in compliance with lefty world views. well, you learn something new every day.

Islam does the same, it even actively destriys artifacts referring to nonislamic cultures and early times. But left societies will get there, too. Schools in Germany already teach heavily revised concepts of history and politics, and the media actively suppress unwanted views and facts.

Just to mention over-simlification and Ludwig von Mises in one thread - thats a bit rich.You could as well link Einstein to esoterics.

JU_88 · 12-02-19, 06:07 AM

Sky, its only facsistic Radial Islamists /lefties / righties) that really buy in to the tyrannical approach. they only get anywhere because moderates either bend the knee, fail nip it the bud or just ignore it in the hope it will go away.

You as indervidual can do what you can to fight it/ argue against it before hand, but ultimatley the majority will decide their own fate (and ours).

Still I wouldnt lose too much sleep over them though because even when they succeed in pushing the masses to comply with their utopian fantasy, its all doomed to fail soon enough. (albeit at some cost to society or humanity.)
But the approach of enforcing an idea or world view ALWAYs fails in the end.
Even when they win, they will still lose, that type of stupidity rarely goes unpunnished in the long term.

Skybird · 12-02-19, 07:05 AM

Yes, I usually call them all totalitarian. Over here, some critical thinkers call Islam Islamofascism indeed. And they are right. A differentiation between polticla and on-political Islam, between Islam and Islamism, has never been, its a modern creation to weasel about the brutal fact of that there is only one valid candidate to claim Islam: the Islam of Muhammad. There has not been an official splitting of th curch, nor emerging of a second gospel of the Quran forming a tradition that is softening the brutality of the original book.Islam is Islam, and it is a totalitarian, racist, supremacist power-political ideology where the umma, the community, is everythign and the individual counts nothing. And that is what is called totalitarianism. Fascism. I am preahcing this since years. To speka of moderate Islam is like speaking of moderate Stalinism or humanist Nazism, or to make a difference between humanistic Nazism and radical "nazissism". Its BS. But elivers the wanted excuse to not start confronting this monstrous ideology, for that would become a hard fight. Preferred is Ringelpietz mit Anfassen as an alternative. Lets love each other.

There are those "Muslims" who want to reform Islam indeed. I know some such names here in germany, and as far as they are maning it honest and serious, they are right. But then they should have the courage and consistence to realise that what they create there is no longer Islamic anbd is not Islam. They should split away and found their own, new thing. As long as hmanists want to reform Nazism and turn it into somethign friendlier, but insist on themselves still being seen as Nazism, they help to give evil a kind face, and so i avoid them nevertheless, even if they are kind people.

The confrontation of evil shall not be saved. Calling it by its real name shall not be saved.

Most of the global Muslim world, the overwhelming majority of it, ticks extremely conservative, radical. Because the ideology is such in its core and essence, and so was the example set by Muhammad, and was his biography.

I think every state over time turns increasingly totalitarian, always, unavoidably. I do not know a single exception. Some already start more totalitarian thna others, some move into that direction faster or slwoer than others, but they all shift at that direction, always, and without real interuptions and standstills in this process. The founding religious or political ideoglogy of them seems to be irrelevant for this.

11-30-19, 07:21 AM	#19
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,666 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	So now history can only be true if in compliance with lefty world views. well, you learn something new every day. Islam does the same, it even actively destriys artifacts referring to nonislamic cultures and early times. But left societies will get there, too. Schools in Germany already teach heavily revised concepts of history and politics, and the media actively suppress unwanted views and facts. Just to mention over-simlification and Ludwig von Mises in one thread - thats a bit rich.You could as well link Einstein to esoterics. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-02-19, 06:07 AM	#20
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Sky, its only facsistic Radial Islamists /lefties / righties) that really buy in to the tyrannical approach. they only get anywhere because moderates either bend the knee, fail nip it the bud or just ignore it in the hope it will go away. You as indervidual can do what you can to fight it/ argue against it before hand, but ultimatley the majority will decide their own fate (and ours). Still I wouldnt lose too much sleep over them though because even when they succeed in pushing the masses to comply with their utopian fantasy, its all doomed to fail soon enough. (albeit at some cost to society or humanity.) But the approach of enforcing an idea or world view ALWAYs fails in the end. Even when they win, they will still lose, that type of stupidity rarely goes unpunnished in the long term. Last edited by JU_88; 12-02-19 at 06:34 AM.

12-02-19, 07:05 AM	#21
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,666 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Yes, I usually call them all totalitarian. Over here, some critical thinkers call Islam Islamofascism indeed. And they are right. A differentiation between polticla and on-political Islam, between Islam and Islamism, has never been, its a modern creation to weasel about the brutal fact of that there is only one valid candidate to claim Islam: the Islam of Muhammad. There has not been an official splitting of th curch, nor emerging of a second gospel of the Quran forming a tradition that is softening the brutality of the original book.Islam is Islam, and it is a totalitarian, racist, supremacist power-political ideology where the umma, the community, is everythign and the individual counts nothing. And that is what is called totalitarianism. Fascism. I am preahcing this since years. To speka of moderate Islam is like speaking of moderate Stalinism or humanist Nazism, or to make a difference between humanistic Nazism and radical "nazissism". Its BS. But elivers the wanted excuse to not start confronting this monstrous ideology, for that would become a hard fight. Preferred is Ringelpietz mit Anfassen as an alternative. Lets love each other. There are those "Muslims" who want to reform Islam indeed. I know some such names here in germany, and as far as they are maning it honest and serious, they are right. But then they should have the courage and consistence to realise that what they create there is no longer Islamic anbd is not Islam. They should split away and found their own, new thing. As long as hmanists want to reform Nazism and turn it into somethign friendlier, but insist on themselves still being seen as Nazism, they help to give evil a kind face, and so i avoid them nevertheless, even if they are kind people. The confrontation of evil shall not be saved. Calling it by its real name shall not be saved. Most of the global Muslim world, the overwhelming majority of it, ticks extremely conservative, radical. Because the ideology is such in its core and essence, and so was the example set by Muhammad, and was his biography. I think every state over time turns increasingly totalitarian, always, unavoidably. I do not know a single exception. Some already start more totalitarian thna others, some move into that direction faster or slwoer than others, but they all shift at that direction, always, and without real interuptions and standstills in this process. The founding religious or political ideoglogy of them seems to be irrelevant for this. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

11-30-19, 03:22 AM	#18
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Wise words from the Llama Though I think ive seen that "Oversimplified History" on YT, its meant to be abit of a parody no?. Isnt its polularity down to its humor rather than it being informative?