The Revelation of Greta: no heavens behind the heavens

[Skybird]

May be placed in the front, but doe snot lead. The course plotting and commanding and managing gets done on the bridge where the passengers usually have no entrance.


Beyond that I stick to it: much of her behaviour and her pedantic lecturing and intolerance is expression of her Asperger personality that means that the individual finds it hard to tolerate variance, diversity, aberation from usual routines and norms the person is used to. The sensory management is easy to get overflooded in these persons, causing pain. Her parents also have a history of psychological problems and dysfunctional personality (schizophrenia, borderline, panic attacks [of which Greta occasionally suffers, too]). When I recall a few scenes when her face, mimic and gesture changed and she lost almost self control, I do no longer take it as impertinence or pedantism anymore, but a couple of red lights on my psychological surveillance boards starts flashing. I wonder whether she really is still in touch with reality or has alredy launched for messianistic self-elevation that justifies every sacrifice - especially the sacrificing of others.



She certainly is extremely full of her self. But that is no wonder after such a party.

[u crank]

By encouraging or even requiring students to take stands when they have neither the knowledge nor the intellectual training to seriously examine complex issues, teachers promote the expression of unsubstantiated opinions, the venting of uninformed emotions, and the habit of acting on those opinions and emotions while ignoring or dismissing opposing views, without having either the intellectual equipment or the personal experience to weigh one view against another in a serious way.

Intellectuals and Society (2009)—Thomas Sowell

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Heh. So many people are going to be angry when she gets the Nobel Peace Prize. She'd actually deserve it, too.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Heh. So many people are going to be angry when she gets the Nobel Peace Prize. She'd actually deserve it, too.

No, like so many who got the peace nobel and did not deserve it by the criteria set by the founder Alfred Nobel, she does not deserve it. It is an abuse of this prize. According to the founder of the prize it shall be rewarded once per year to people who "have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses".

She did nothing of this, and did not achieve any of it.


The Nobel prizes for peace and for economics are extremely corrupted and abused these days. The pirze for economics is not even a prize founded by Nobel, but the Norwegian central bank I think, and they then abused the name of the dead Alfred Nobel becasue he could not object anymore.



I tend to take note only of the scientific Nobel prizes. Those for Literature, Peace, Economics I do not give a damn for. If I would be givne the pirze for Peace, I would even reject it, because I would not want to be mentioned in one breath with too many of the names on the list.

[Catfish]

Thunberg 'won' the 2019 Right Livelihood Award, known as Sweden’s alternative Nobel Prize.
So not the 'real' one.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1WA0L8

"While liberals see her as courageous for telling the truth about climate change, right-wing critics depict her as a liar or hypocrite, suggest her parents have manipulated her or portray her as the ringleader of a socialist conspiracy."

She wrote on Facebook in February that “there is no one ‘behind’ me except for myself. My parents were as far from climate activists as possible before I made them aware of the situation.”

She probably will not get the real Nobel prize:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1WA18Z

So she denunciates 'world leaders' .. quoting the usual right wing comment when Trump did it again: "A long as s(he) pe..s off the right people..."

[JU_88]

Sure, well fine, I'd give her the benefit of the doubt on that.
I'm fine with what she is doing, its just not in the most effective way.
we don't just cave in to anyone who gets angry and cries.
People need reasons more than emotions.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Thunberg 'won' the 2019 Right Livelihood Award, known as Sweden’s alternative Nobel Prize.
So not the 'real' one.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1WA0L8

"While liberals see her as courageous for telling the truth about climate change, right-wing critics depict her as a liar or hypocrite, suggest her parents have manipulated her or portray her as the ringleader of a socialist conspiracy."

She wrote on Facebook in February that “there is no one ‘behind’ me except for myself. My parents were as far from climate activists as possible before I made them aware of the situation.”

She probably will not get the real Nobel prize:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1WA18Z

So she denunciates 'world leaders' .. quoting the usual right wing comment when Trump did it again: "A long as s(he) pe..s off the right people..."

So she wrote about herself at facebook, how impressive, many people do that, dont they. Her mother even wriote a whole book - about herself.


https://www.handelsblatt.com/arts_un...WZk2vRjAdD-ap4


I say again: this family has a record of serious psychological/psychiatric issues. The Greta. The mother. The father. The younger sister. And they make a solid fortune with money-making from the Greta hype, so does the WWF with the donation campaign behind it.



The whole hype around Greta and Fridays for Future says little about climate, or about the Thunbergs. It says an awful lot, a depressing lot about the public and how it ticks and functions and allows to get manipulated. As an ex psychologist, both the freaky family biography as well as the public's reactions make me raising an alarmed left eyebrow. Its not good if such things are possible to happen due to such a questionable cause. It shows that fundamental principles of reasonably assessing events and circumstances in reality around us , are broken, are dysfunctional. In other words it shows not only what is not in order with the Thunbergs, it also shows what is not in order with ourselves.

[JU_88]

Meh, In a few of months, none of it will matter probably.

[ikalugin]

It would be a good thing to look back on in 40 years.

[Skybird]

In 40 years the flakes of ashes that we all got burnt down to due to global warming will have been swept away since long already by the waves of the raised oceans: five point seven three two meters minimum, I say!

[August]

Rising sea levels?

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Skybird

In 40 years the flakes of ashes that we all got burnt down to due to global warming will have been swept away since long already by the waves of the raised oceans: five point seven three two meters minimum, I say!

And just before we all get wiped out we can use cutting edge technology to tattoo Greta's angry face on the moon.
It what she would have wanted.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

Rising sea levels?

So things have even improved, there obviously was no colour back then, I already realized that when looking at WW2 photos

[Onkel Neal]

AT least you don't have it as rough as this poor fellow.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/prince...f-bed?ref=home

Prince Harry says he is so crushed by the state of the planet that he sometimes struggles to get out of bed in the morning.

I guess he's going to cease travel on Elton John's jets and move into a modest eco-friendly home ASAP.



Nah.

[Catfish]

^ my heart bleeds for poor Prince Harry. [/sarcasm]






Translation:
"German government under pressure. After Greta, also swedisch environment expert Soren criticizes german energy politics."