Das Boot

stefano · 06-03-06, 10:29 AM

Hi to all.
Finally i have seen the movie Das Boot, directors cut, 3 hours of fantastic movie.
Well, i have to say that is maybe one the best movie i have ever seen.
I have been for these three hours totally immerged in the movie, absolutly fantastc and very good made.
It is a pitty that this movie has not get one of the nominations for the Oscar price...

But anyway, a must to have and to see, and ..BTW.. seems to be in SH3 in some of the situations...

Myxale · 06-03-06, 10:32 AM

Thats only the beginnig!
You will have plently "Das Boot" nerve-whackin moments in SH. Just keep playin!

Ula Jolly · 06-03-06, 10:51 AM

Is this the ONLY movie properly depicting a war and a submarine crew of ANY time?

06-03-06, 10:52 AM

Probably never won an Oscar, because the dialogue translated in English was very badly done. Most things either don't make sense or are really cheesey...plus it sounds like they recorded the English version in my garage (on top of the old lawn mower). Now, if it could win the Best International Film award is another matter.

Though even here I am a bit dubious about the acting. Some of them are either completely insane or are overacting. The main characters for the most part are fine...but it's too cliche'd. You have the melancholic captain, the completely nuts warrant officer (or whatever he is), the really anal and wet behind the ears junior Officer, the old rusty hermit-like chief engineer, and the oh-I'm-so-excited-about-the-whole-thing journalist who then-realises-it's-hell-out-there.

Let's face it, the film's good but it's cheesey as hell...and the characters are cartoons.

06-03-06, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ula Jolly

Is this the ONLY movie properly depicting a war and a submarine crew of ANY time?

No, Crimson Tide. That is much more realistic and would've won a few Oscars had it not been for the fact it was competing against the like of Dances With Wolves (I think...a major movie of the genre anyway).

Khayman · 06-03-06, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

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Let's face it, the film's good but it's cheesey as hell...and the characters are cartoons.

Well one of the crew of U-123 said of Buchheim; "He is truly crazy. He made only one trip in a U-Boat, as a photojournalist. How could he presume to write about U-Boatmen? Some things are factual but most are not"

He's wrong in that Buchheim was on one late war patrol IIRC, a patrol where it's suggested he got the negative tone for the movie and book. Anyways opinion among U-Boat commanders and men is divided. What really matters is that it's a great movie, despite it's faults.

06-03-06, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Khayman

Well one of the crew of U-123 said of Buchheim; "He is truly crazy. He made only one trip in a U-Boat, as a photojournalist. How could he presume to write about U-Boatmen? Some things are factual but most are not"

He's wrong in that Buchheim was on one late war patrol IIRC, a patrol where it's suggested he got the negative tone for the movie and book. Anyways opinion among U-Boat commanders and men is divided. What really matters is that it's a great movie, despite it's faults.

Also known as a "cult" movie. And it is...though Oscar winner?

Polak · 06-03-06, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by stefano

Hi to all.
Finally i have seen the movie Das Boot, directors cut, 3 hours of fantastic movie.
Well, i have to say that is maybe one the best movie i have ever seen.
I have been for these three hours totally immerged in the movie, absolutly fantastc and very good made.
It is a pitty that this movie has not get one of the nominations for the Oscar price...

But anyway, a must to have and to see, and ..BTW.. seems to be in SH3 in some of the situations...

No you must watch the uncut version of the movie that is 4 hours and 42 minutes long.

Rose · 06-03-06, 11:42 AM

Ya, the uncut version really puts you inside that U-boat.

06-03-06, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

No, Crimson Tide. That is much more realistic and would've won a few Oscars had it not been for the fact it was competing against the like of Dances With Wolves (I think...a major movie of the genre anyway).

I'm sorry, Crimson Tide may have used realistic sets, but the plot and the procedures were about as realistic as a twelve-year-old in a cardboard box. That movie was pure drek.

Ula Jolly · 06-03-06, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kurushio

No, Crimson Tide. That is much more realistic and would've won a few Oscars had it not been for the fact it was competing against the like of Dances With Wolves (I think...a major movie of the genre anyway).

Wait... please tell me that is irony on some divine level. Crimson Tide? The 1995 Crimson Tide? Ohio sub? I damned near puked from it! I don't mean to be trying for flaming or anything, but it goes "down there", with U-571 and the rest.

Khayman · 06-03-06, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ula Jolly

I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

Sorry for drifting OT, but that's a great sig!

Egan · 06-03-06, 12:12 PM

Actually, my most Das Boot moment in subsims came not in Sh3 but in AOTD.

I got orders to patrol the western aproaches in my little 11A and off I went, hitting a convoy in bound for the Irish sea on my second day out. Well, those escorts saw me coming from a long ways out so down I went only to receive the mother of all depth chargings. I had dived so quick i hit the seabed at about 90 meters and lay there, badly damaged, as they hovered above throwing down more ash-cans. I tried to blow the air reserves in the ballast tanks but nothing happened - nothing at all. I got the men working on all the repairs they could do from inside the boat just to keep them busy until the air ran out and just waited until they escorts cleared off, which they did after about 40 minutes. I guess they thought i was a gonner. At this point so did I.

After 12 hours all the repairs we could do were done and, out of hope more than anything else, i tried venting the ballast tanks again. Now, I don't know whether I pressed the wrong button the first time or over the hours we spent below we fixed something vital, but this time there was a welcome hiss and - slowly - we began to rise.

I gave a little cheer but with both our periscope and hydrophones out we were rising blind with no idea what was up there. We broke the surface just after dawn on a beautiful and misty spring morning and after a few seconds giving thanks to whatever deity had got us through the night I gave orders to get us the hell outa dodge and limp home to base....

I know how the Old man felt after the misery of Gibralter. great film. The TV series is even better.

06-03-06, 12:19 PM

I died that way in AOD once: bottomed the boat until the destroyers went away. Didn't have much damage, but got stuck in the mud. Lay there trying to get loose until the air ran out, then RIP.

Myxale · 06-03-06, 12:26 PM

Das Boot is the best. It's indeed a thing of taste and the view of things in general.
The movie and cast are top notch IMO.
It never appeared to me that they are too cartoonish or cheesy. Not any more than we all are in RL!

Thought i find Buchheim narrow minded in some ways...he's done more than two trips in a Sub. Two of them were with U-96. Her last two patrols!
Keep in mind that Subs were his passion. Most of his Sonedrführer-Berichterstatter reports were about sub's and crew. He loved the cult, like many other unknowing germans! Many looked up to them like like idols!
Imagine when he actually got the chance to do a real trip how this changed his mindset, when he wittnesed the madness first hand. He was guest at a college and told actually that he was -till the time he sailed out- unaware of the real deal.

You don't need to be a Kaleun to realize the madness of U-Boot war.

Imagine a Marine wannabe Fanboy gettin the ticket for War. Imagin his "yay i'm gonna be in a real war with the cool marines" fade quickly as the first one dies beside him.

Things have always been like this!

Sorry pointless long rant!

06-03-06, 10:29 AM	#1
stefano Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Das Boot Hi to all. Finally i have seen the movie Das Boot, directors cut, 3 hours of fantastic movie. Well, i have to say that is maybe one the best movie i have ever seen. I have been for these three hours totally immerged in the movie, absolutly fantastc and very good made. It is a pitty that this movie has not get one of the nominations for the Oscar price... But anyway, a must to have and to see, and ..BTW.. seems to be in SH3 in some of the situations...

06-03-06, 10:51 AM	#3
Ula Jolly Samurai Navy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 567 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is this the ONLY movie properly depicting a war and a submarine crew of ANY time? __________________ I shall punish yee, landlubber! C'mere for spankings and popsicles!

06-03-06, 10:32 AM	#2
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Thats only the beginnig! You will have plently "Das Boot" nerve-whackin moments in SH. Just keep playin!

06-03-06, 10:52 AM	#4
Kurushio Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Probably never won an Oscar, because the dialogue translated in English was very badly done. Most things either don't make sense or are really cheesey...plus it sounds like they recorded the English version in my garage (on top of the old lawn mower). Now, if it could win the Best International Film award is another matter. Though even here I am a bit dubious about the acting. Some of them are either completely insane or are overacting. The main characters for the most part are fine...but it's too cliche'd. You have the melancholic captain, the completely nuts warrant officer (or whatever he is), the really anal and wet behind the ears junior Officer, the old rusty hermit-like chief engineer, and the oh-I'm-so-excited-about-the-whole-thing journalist who then-realises-it's-hell-out-there. Let's face it, the film's good but it's cheesey as hell...and the characters are cartoons.

06-03-06, 11:42 AM	#9
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ya, the uncut version really puts you inside that U-boat.

06-03-06, 12:12 PM	#13
Egan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	Actually, my most Das Boot moment in subsims came not in Sh3 but in AOTD. I got orders to patrol the western aproaches in my little 11A and off I went, hitting a convoy in bound for the Irish sea on my second day out. Well, those escorts saw me coming from a long ways out so down I went only to receive the mother of all depth chargings. I had dived so quick i hit the seabed at about 90 meters and lay there, badly damaged, as they hovered above throwing down more ash-cans. I tried to blow the air reserves in the ballast tanks but nothing happened - nothing at all. I got the men working on all the repairs they could do from inside the boat just to keep them busy until the air ran out and just waited until they escorts cleared off, which they did after about 40 minutes. I guess they thought i was a gonner. At this point so did I. After 12 hours all the repairs we could do were done and, out of hope more than anything else, i tried venting the ballast tanks again. Now, I don't know whether I pressed the wrong button the first time or over the hours we spent below we fixed something vital, but this time there was a welcome hiss and - slowly - we began to rise. I gave a little cheer but with both our periscope and hydrophones out we were rising blind with no idea what was up there. We broke the surface just after dawn on a beautiful and misty spring morning and after a few seconds giving thanks to whatever deity had got us through the night I gave orders to get us the hell outa dodge and limp home to base.... I know how the Old man felt after the misery of Gibralter. great film. The TV series is even better.

06-03-06, 12:19 PM	#14
Sailor Steve Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I died that way in AOD once: bottomed the boat until the destroyers went away. Didn't have much damage, but got stuck in the mud. Lay there trying to get loose until the air ran out, then RIP.

06-03-06, 12:26 PM	#15
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Das Boot is the best. It's indeed a thing of taste and the view of things in general. The movie and cast are top notch IMO. It never appeared to me that they are too cartoonish or cheesy. Not any more than we all are in RL! Thought i find Buchheim narrow minded in some ways...he's done more than two trips in a Sub. Two of them were with U-96. Her last two patrols! Keep in mind that Subs were his passion. Most of his Sonedrführer-Berichterstatter reports were about sub's and crew. He loved the cult, like many other unknowing germans! Many looked up to them like like idols! Imagine when he actually got the chance to do a real trip how this changed his mindset, when he wittnesed the madness first hand. He was guest at a college and told actually that he was -till the time he sailed out- unaware of the real deal. You don't need to be a Kaleun to realize the madness of U-Boot war. Imagine a Marine wannabe Fanboy gettin the ticket for War. Imagin his "yay i'm gonna be in a real war with the cool marines" fade quickly as the first one dies beside him. Things have always been like this! Sorry pointless long rant!