Graphics look strange to me.

jimmyjam25 · 03-02-19, 07:16 PM

Hi all, I haven't played this for a while. Was it always so... how do i put it dark??? And also seems to be strange contrasts in colours. Everything just looks really odd. Did it always have really ****ty graphics?

fireftr18 · 03-02-19, 08:22 PM

Can you post a screen shot? Also some information is useful. What are the specs on your computer, specifically your video card? What mods are you using?

Armistead · 03-02-19, 09:47 PM

Look at the screenshot thread above, from stock to different mods with better graphics and see how yours compares or post some SS here.

Sniper297 · 03-03-19, 02:41 AM

In the main menu is OPTIONS, then GRAPHIC SETTINGS, there's a gamma slider to make it lighter or darker. The one thing I found has the biggest effect is not the gamma setting, but the on/off checkbox for POST PROCESS FILTERS. You can fool around in there and try different settings, the screen resolution requires exiting and restarting the game.

Here's a couple shots showing the POST PROCESS FILTERS setting on and off;

To my eye the whole game looks better with it on.

simpliciter · 03-04-19, 11:09 PM

So yeah I haven't been here for like 10 years and here I am again. Those screenshots have compression artifacts all over them on my side so I can't really judge.. but it also looks like you're in low light conditions in both sets of shots so it's even harder to judge.

propbeanie · 03-05-19, 07:57 AM

The game is an old 3D game, and as such introduces "artifact", as well as "low-level lighting". Also, to display a picture on most web sites, of necessity, JPEG compression is a requirement, so you will see artifact from that. Then there is the web page display, that no matter what resolution you set your display to, a web page will display at 72dpi. Therefore, by the time you "see" something here, it's been compromised. The comparativeness however, can be seen, and is useful.

Sniper297 · 03-05-19, 03:53 PM

Couple items;

1. Ten percent of white males have at least a mild form of color blindness, the numbers among other races and females are so low they're statistically insignificant. That's why the US Navy administers the full range color vision test to all recruits, many systems are color coded. I did pass that test.
2. I was an offset color pressman for five years (had to find another trade after developing an allergy to the chemicals used in printing, which is why I enlisted in the Navy), another trade that requires perfect color vision.

To my eye the differences are blatantly obvious, the reason I chose dark screenshots was the original poster (wherever he went) said "how do i put it dark???" which I assumed meant it was too bright at night or something. There's a gamma slider to make everything darker, but near as I can tell the only thing that affects contrast is the post process filter on/off button.

For those of you who can't see the color difference in the textures, try this test;

https://colormax.org/color-blind-test/

KaleunMarco · 06-26-19, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper297

There's a gamma slider to make everything darker, but near as I can tell the only thing that affects contrast is the post process filter on/off button.

thank you for the explanation. so, who can explain what the gamma slider is supposed to do, other than "it makes every thing darker"? {no disrespect intended}

propbeanie · 06-27-19, 10:24 AM

My understanding of gamma as it relates to computer displays is similar to photography, in that it is a measure of "contrast", but as it relates to "color intensity". It can reduce the number of colors used when turned down, and likewise when turned up. Basically a matter of preference, but doing the extremes will "blend" more colors that are similar together. Greys turn to black, light colors toward white, etc... I think...

Sniper297 · 06-27-19, 09:16 PM

Official definition;

"Gamma changes the difference between dark and light areas. Increasing Gamma makes dark areas darker and light areas lighter. It's more akin to contrast than anything.

Brightness decreases the range of lightness without changing the starting dark point."

Main purpose of a gamma slider in video games is to compensate for display differences, video cards, monitors, lighting in the room the computer is in, all effect how bright or dim the display appears.

Post process filtering;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_post-processing

03-02-19, 07:16 PM	#1
jimmyjam25 Soundman Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 146 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Graphics look strange to me. Hi all, I haven't played this for a while. Was it always so... how do i put it dark??? And also seems to be strange contrasts in colours. Everything just looks really odd. Did it always have really ****ty graphics?

03-02-19, 08:22 PM	#2
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Can you post a screen shot? Also some information is useful. What are the specs on your computer, specifically your video card? What mods are you using? __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

03-02-19, 09:47 PM	#3
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Look at the screenshot thread above, from stock to different mods with better graphics and see how yours compares or post some SS here. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

03-05-19, 07:57 AM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,103 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	The game is an old 3D game, and as such introduces "artifact", as well as "low-level lighting". Also, to display a picture on most web sites, of necessity, JPEG compression is a requirement, so you will see artifact from that. Then there is the web page display, that no matter what resolution you set your display to, a web page will display at 72dpi. Therefore, by the time you "see" something here, it's been compromised. The comparativeness however, can be seen, and is useful. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

06-27-19, 10:24 AM	#9
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,103 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	My understanding of gamma as it relates to computer displays is similar to photography, in that it is a measure of "contrast", but as it relates to "color intensity". It can reduce the number of colors used when turned down, and likewise when turned up. Basically a matter of preference, but doing the extremes will "blend" more colors that are similar together. Greys turn to black, light colors toward white, etc... I think... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

03-03-19, 02:41 AM	#4
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	In the main menu is OPTIONS, then GRAPHIC SETTINGS, there's a gamma slider to make it lighter or darker. The one thing I found has the biggest effect is not the gamma setting, but the on/off checkbox for POST PROCESS FILTERS. You can fool around in there and try different settings, the screen resolution requires exiting and restarting the game. Here's a couple shots showing the POST PROCESS FILTERS setting on and off; To my eye the whole game looks better with it on.

03-04-19, 11:09 PM	#5
simpliciter Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	So yeah I haven't been here for like 10 years and here I am again. Those screenshots have compression artifacts all over them on my side so I can't really judge.. but it also looks like you're in low light conditions in both sets of shots so it's even harder to judge.

03-05-19, 03:53 PM	#7
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Couple items; 1. Ten percent of white males have at least a mild form of color blindness, the numbers among other races and females are so low they're statistically insignificant. That's why the US Navy administers the full range color vision test to all recruits, many systems are color coded. I did pass that test. 2. I was an offset color pressman for five years (had to find another trade after developing an allergy to the chemicals used in printing, which is why I enlisted in the Navy), another trade that requires perfect color vision. To my eye the differences are blatantly obvious, the reason I chose dark screenshots was the original poster (wherever he went) said "how do i put it dark???" which I assumed meant it was too bright at night or something. There's a gamma slider to make everything darker, but near as I can tell the only thing that affects contrast is the post process filter on/off button. For those of you who can't see the color difference in the textures, try this test; https://colormax.org/color-blind-test/

06-27-19, 09:16 PM	#10
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Official definition; "Gamma changes the difference between dark and light areas. Increasing Gamma makes dark areas darker and light areas lighter. It's more akin to contrast than anything. Brightness decreases the range of lightness without changing the starting dark point." Main purpose of a gamma slider in video games is to compensate for display differences, video cards, monitors, lighting in the room the computer is in, all effect how bright or dim the display appears. Post process filtering; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_post-processing