New copyright for internet content

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Here in comes the critical thinking skill.


We as humans have more information available to use with a push of a few buttons than have been available to any single person in the history of the world. Use it.

This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

To be honest I don't give much for this "critical thinking skills"

Because it all depend on the persons belief.

I respectfully suggest that you may not understand what critical thinking is.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

I've needed to be very aware of the pitfalls in my work as a painter, especially when it comes to producing artwork for publication. The area is open to wide interpretation and you'll get as many different accounts of what constitutes an infringement as 'experts' you consult. Some will say that it's enough to simply copy another person's image in reverse to avoid infringement... I just don't hold with that... others that you only need to alter one or two details.

I've had my artwork for greetings cards blatantly copied, with some alterations made... but any reasonable person would have looked at it and said that my image had been copied

I realise that this diverges somewhat from the subject of the OP but thought it might be of some interest

I imagine with the possebilities of digitalization, all this will become even worse. Lawyers must love it, the more complexity in laws and legal situations, the better for them economic basis and their incomes.


The wheel of bureaucratization turns on.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

This is what I find the most disturbing. We have access that no previous generation could ever dream of. If we have a question about a law, we can easily pull the text of the law, if we have a question about a court decision, we can pull the slip reports. It only takes a few moments, but it seems that even with this unprecedented access, people are still relying on other people to interpret.

There is an old saying that I just made up: You can lead a person to data, but you can't make them think.

The quality of data is what is at question here. I woudl ask that question even - and especially - in regard to scientific raw data and the way and method it was won.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I imagine with the possebilities of digitalization, all this will become even worse. Lawyers must love it, the more complexity in laws and legal situations, the better for them economic basis and their incomes

My images are out there already, one way or another in digital form, and you can very soon find them if you know what to ask.... all I can do (when it matters) is reduce the file size so that they are clear and good for normal eyes-on viewing, but degrade quickly upon enlargement so as to be useless for unlicensed reproduction as prints etc; I have no problem with people sharing the images around because it's free publicity for me

[Skybird]

Yes. But I also had on mind the easy manipulation of images and data in digital format.

[Eichhörnchen]

Yes indeed, Skybird... there are a lot of "digital artists" out there nowadays...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Eichhörnchen

Yes indeed, Skybird... there are a lot of "digital artists" out there nowadays...

And lobbyists. Newspapers. Propagandists. Activists.


tbc.

[mapuc]

A friend told us there was a very special referendum in EU Thursday or next Thursday.

I'll not try to write what it means ´cause I'm still trying to understand the whole of it.

From what I understand I can't post a link to a story without this copyright thing.

https://juliareda.eu/eu-copyright-reform/

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If this is the work of the EU then it must be correct and proper....shouldn't it

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If this is the work of the EU then it must be correct and proper....shouldn't it

[mapuc]

To be honest I'm wondering if Skybird didn't mention this in his own thread about this new Copyright content on the Internet.

I have tried to open his links, which have been without any success

If we (Skybird and yours truly) are talking about the same

Merge them.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

If you point me to the thread you're referring too I'll sort that should the above be the case.

[mapuc]

It's this one.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=237805

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Threads merged.