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Old 05-19-06, 07:17 PM   #61
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Communism dose not work.
Oh really...

http://www.section31.com/column.php?id=14
^That article does make one mistake, the Federation does have money (the Federation "Credit") although it appears to be totally worthless and only used in the Federation...

... sorry had to make my mandatory jab at the good old UFP.
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Old 05-19-06, 07:45 PM   #62
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"Well, Jon, the great jousting tournament that is Election Day draws nigh, the prize the building you see behind me, Castle Congress. But what side shall prevail in this epic electoral tilt? Who shall control the future of Fortress America? Will we be, as the Republicans desire, a nation of wealthy heavily-armed white men, befouling the air and water in a ceaseless quest for profits, beholden to no laws but those of our lord and savior Jesus Christ? Or shall we instead embrace the Democrats' vision of a namby-pamby quasi-Socialist Republic with an all-homosexual army flamboyantly defending a citizenry suckling at the foul teat of government welfare? The choice is yours, fair maiden America, for the name of this feudal system is Democracy."

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Old 05-19-06, 07:57 PM   #63
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Putin made one vital mistake in my books. Not saving the Kursk sailors, even though other countries offered to help with the rescue he still refused.
Yes, this was a bad choice.

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I certainly don't doubt it, but he's far less corrupt than Yeltzin for example
So what? Yeltzin was a A**hole too. I like the IDEA of communism, not the way it way Exsecutet.
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Old 05-19-06, 08:50 PM   #64
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Communism has never been fully instated. Take a look at basic history textbooks and also look at Marx's manifesto. There's supposed to be an uprising, a temporary 'comittee' (politburo) and then restoration of power to the people by the comittee.

That third step has NEVER happened in ANY communist country EVER. And it's very unlikely it ever will.

It's absolutely true that China became a true power when it started relaxing its communistic economic ideals and allowed corporations to operate on a capitalistic model.
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Old 05-19-06, 08:54 PM   #65
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But if the third step would happen...how would the world look.. :hmm:
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Old 05-21-06, 05:27 AM   #66
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It never will happen. Been attempted many times, has never happened, will never happen. Communism just doesn't work.
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Old 05-21-06, 06:32 AM   #67
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It never will happen. Been attempted many times, has never happened, will never happen. Communism just doesn't work.
Neither does capitalism IMHO, although its had a good run so far. One of the greatest strengths of capitalism is that it can very efficiency match needs and wants (demand) with goods and services (supply). But that is also its biggest problem because of how fast we can consume resources under this system, many of which are finite and non-renewable. At the same time the consumption of these resources tends to produce nasty side-effects (various forms of pollution) that are not compatible with human life and which build up over time. That's not to say communism is "superior", only that capitalism has its own warts as well.
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Old 05-21-06, 07:03 AM   #68
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What does pollution have to do with capitalism or communism? :hmm:

There is no contradiction in being an environmentally friendly capitalist or communist.
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The nation that emits the most CO2 into the atmosphere is not russia but america, the ones who dump the most waste into the sea is america.
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Yeah. We are the worlds worst polluter be 1/3. China comes in second.
Not a title to be proud of unfortunately.
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Old 05-21-06, 09:09 AM   #71
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The nation that emits the most CO2 into the atmosphere is not russia but america, the ones who dump the most waste into the sea is america.

So? From what i understand Russia has released more radioactive fallout than any other country in history and generally does its polluting on land. Both it's own and in the former USSR satellite countries.
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Take my Commies, please!
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Apparently Putin now wants to give rubles to Russian momen to have babies.

Worried about a decline in the Russian population approaching 700,000 a year, President Vladimir Putin offered women cash to have more babies to repopulate the deserted areas of the country and reverse the threat of limited economic growth.


He proposed an increase of 1,500 rubles a month to families having their first baby ($55), over half the average wage; and 3,000 rubles for the second. When a mother decided to stay at home with the kids she should get 40% of their prior job wage.


Some young couples said one child is a financial struggle and more changes are needed before they would risk additional children. Andrei Karmadanov, 23, from Russia's Far East said Putin's proposals would only encourage freeloaders who want vodka.

So....in a country where a large percentage of the men go to an early grave due mostly to the vodka bottle, Putin is gonna have women make up the difference. That'll work. :hmm:
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Bah! I get more over here. I ain't moving!
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Glad to hear somebody's getting more.
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