Own ship detection numbers?

fire-fox · 12-07-17, 03:32 PM

Hi guys,

When you have the figures for enemy sensures in CW, at what point are you detected ? Is it+10 or +20

Also is this the same figure ( taking into account all other fractures, water background, own ship selection) ?

FPSchazly · 12-07-17, 03:40 PM

From what I understand, the earliest detection can happen is +10 dB. Then, the enemy can hold contact on you down to 0 dB.

Yes, +10 dB is always true as this value is relative to the environment. Basically, whatever the dB of the environment, you have to be close enough to the enemy to be +10 dB louder than the environment to be detected. In noisier environments, units generally have to be closer together to detect each other.

fire-fox · 12-07-17, 04:54 PM

Thanks that’s fits with what I was seeing, though seen +20db mentioned

EnjoyableSTIG · 12-08-17, 06:14 PM

IIRC, the numbers are percentages plus/minus for detection probability. So at a rating of 0 that means there's a 50 percent chance of detection.

At a rating of 20 there would be a 70 percent chance of detection.
At a rating of -20 there would be a 30 percent chance of detection.

I think.

Julhelm · 12-08-17, 07:31 PM

No, they are decibels over background noise. 10 is the detection threshold, 0 is the tracking threshold.

XenonSurf · 12-09-17, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Julhelm

No, they are decibels over background noise. 10 is the detection threshold, 0 is the tracking threshold.

Thanks Julhelm to confirm that, I was quite wrong with my personal guessing...

Erik · 12-14-17, 05:10 AM

Is it possible to disable or hide the ownship noise to target numbers... Or randomize them so they couldnt be entirely trusted? To make it more realistic as I think they should be just estimations.

subcritical · 12-17-17, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Erik

Is it possible to disable or hide the ownship noise to target numbers... Or randomize them so they couldnt be entirely trusted? To make it more realistic as I think they should be just estimations.

There is a mod for that. On this forum go to Downloads > Cold Waters > Graphics Mods > Hidden SNS Comp.

I've used it and it works great. I only wish there was a game config modification you could do to change the color of the text instead. The mod puts a text colored box around the readings so they disappear.

12-07-17, 03:32 PM	#1
fire-fox Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Peoples Republic of West Yorkshire Posts: 326 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Own ship detection numbers? Hi guys, When you have the figures for enemy sensures in CW, at what point are you detected ? Is it+10 or +20 Also is this the same figure ( taking into account all other fractures, water background, own ship selection) ? __________________ Running subs aground since SH1 and Silent Service Running SH5 @ 100% difficulty + TWoS 2.2.19(RealNav + BDU + port smoke + food) + Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack tweaked + The Little Ships of SH5 - Coaster Pack

12-07-17, 03:40 PM	#2
FPSchazly Good Hunting! Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Beantown Posts: 776 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 1	From what I understand, the earliest detection can happen is +10 dB. Then, the enemy can hold contact on you down to 0 dB. Yes, +10 dB is always true as this value is relative to the environment. Basically, whatever the dB of the environment, you have to be close enough to the enemy to be +10 dB louder than the environment to be detected. In noisier environments, units generally have to be closer together to detect each other. __________________ Your friendly neighborhood modern submarine YouTuber. My videos: Exclusive Look at Modern Naval Warfare! Dangerous Waters Liu Doctrine (LwAmi Learn to play Dangerous Waters Last edited by FPSchazly; 12-07-17 at 06:08 PM. Reason: +10 dB louder to the enemy: "to the enemy" replaced with "than the environment"

12-07-17, 04:54 PM	#3
fire-fox Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Peoples Republic of West Yorkshire Posts: 326 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Thanks that’s fits with what I was seeing, though seen +20db mentioned __________________ Running subs aground since SH1 and Silent Service Running SH5 @ 100% difficulty + TWoS 2.2.19(RealNav + BDU + port smoke + food) + Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack tweaked + The Little Ships of SH5 - Coaster Pack

12-08-17, 06:14 PM	#4
EnjoyableSTIG Seaman Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: USA Posts: 40 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	IIRC, the numbers are percentages plus/minus for detection probability. So at a rating of 0 that means there's a 50 percent chance of detection. At a rating of 20 there would be a 70 percent chance of detection. At a rating of -20 there would be a 30 percent chance of detection. I think.

12-08-17, 07:31 PM	#5
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	No, they are decibels over background noise. 10 is the detection threshold, 0 is the tracking threshold.

12-14-17, 05:10 AM	#7
Erik Watch Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 19 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Is it possible to disable or hide the ownship noise to target numbers... Or randomize them so they couldnt be entirely trusted? To make it more realistic as I think they should be just estimations.