Bergdahl walks

Platapus · 11-03-17, 12:13 PM

From what is being reported, the sentence is just a fine and a Dishonorable Discharge. No prison time

What is galling is that he is intending on appealing the DD!

I guess he is a victim too.

Aktungbby · 11-03-17, 12:21 PM

Time served??!!

Mr Quatro · 11-03-17, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

From what is being reported, the sentence is just a fine and a Dishonorable Discharge. No prison time

What is galling is that he is intending on appealing the DD!

I guess he is a victim too.

I feel sorry for the men that went looking for him, some did not return

Does this mean Bergdahl won't be collecting his paycheck on the 1st and the 15th anymore?

u crank · 11-03-17, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Does this mean Bergdahl won't be collecting his paycheck on the 1st and the 15th anymore?

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As part of the sentence, Bergdahl will forfeit his pay of $1000 per month for ten months.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/03...testimony.html

HW3 · 11-03-17, 12:49 PM

"Speachless"

propbeanie · 11-03-17, 01:27 PM

Appealing the sentence- he'd lose his benefits - sheesh, how ~horrible~ for him. I speak with facetious tongue...

Appeals should automatically re-qualify a plaintiff for the maximum penalty, if they lose the appeal... Courts Martial, or otherwise.

ET2SN · 11-03-17, 05:30 PM

Were you at the trial to hear all of the testimony?

The Army is getting what it wants, the defendant is not getting all of what he wanted.

MaDef · 11-04-17, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Were you at the trial to hear all of the testimony?

The Army is getting what it wants, the defendant is not getting all of what he wanted.

There wasn't a trial, Bergdahl pled guilty claiming he could not get a fair trial due to Trumps comments last year during the presidential campaign. Regardless, barring extraordinary reasons for deserting his post, He should have been given jail time.

Jimbuna · 11-04-17, 08:05 AM

Certainly a strange outcome

Platapus · 11-04-17, 10:46 AM

I was expecting 10 years

Onkel Neal · 11-04-17, 11:19 AM

I guess the judges determined Bergdahl was guilty of stupidity more than subversion or treason.

Gargamel · 11-04-17, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I guess the judges determined Bergdahl was guilty of stupidity more than subversion or treason.

This is probably the truth, and I'd guess the time in captivity was considered time served.

Aktungbby · 11-04-17, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AKBBY

Time served??!!

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Certainly a strange outcome

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

This is probably the truth, and I'd guess the time in captivity was considered time served.

AGREED. However the military is not overly selective in filling its ranks and picks poorly in defence of the empire. The potential commander in chief-now the commander in chief- has/had no business making any statement whatsoever and that must have weighed in on the presiding judge's sentence

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Republicans roundly criticized Obama, and Donald Trump went further while campaigning for president, repeatedly calling Bergdahl a "dirty, rotten traitor" who deserved to be executed by firing squad or thrown out of a plane without a parachute.

instant grounds for appeal

Additionally, by the sentence, Bergdahl's problem$ are now essentially his own and not the tax-payers to a certain extent:

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army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl's difficult childhood and washout from Coast Guard boot camp stoked serious psychiatric disorders that helped spur him to walk off his remote post in Afghanistan in 2009, a psychiatrist testified Wednesday.

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Dr. Charles Morgan, called as a defense witness at Bergdahl's sentencing hearing, said the soldier was already suffering from a schizophrenia-like disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder when he disappeared in Afghanistan.
Morgan testified that kind of action was consistent with the schizotypal personality disorder diagnosis.
"I think he believes there are times if it's the morally right thing to do, you have to break the rules," he said. "There's not a thinking through of: 'Are there other ways to achieve this goal?'"

His own defense shrink asserts these conditions existed prior to his enlistment. Moreover five years in a Taliban cage with cruel treatment and (allegedly) numerous escape attempts requires a lot of Islamic guards who might have otherwise been free to attack forces elsewhere...

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Since the defense began its sentencing arguments, Bergdahl has taken the stand to apologize to the troops who were wounded in the search for him. And two military agents who debriefed Bergdahl testified Tuesday about how much valuable intelligence he provided when he was returned in a prisoner swap.

A fair apolitical judgement imho: five years in a Taliban cage has got to equal Platypus's 10 more years at Leavenworth... http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...101-story.htmlThe barrel-bottom scraping military recruiter and the C'in C' should perhaps be punished for this one.

Delgard · 11-04-17, 06:13 PM

With 35 years serving the military, I was disappointed. Someone that joins the military, even at 18, is an adult. He brought the whole situation upon himself and being captured was a high enough probability to have told him that his actions were not the best course of action.

The military, each branch, is very attuned to mental health concerns and providing assistance. He would have been provided treatment and moved to a "stabler" duty position in AFG, initially, and/or sent stateside for increased treatment if so needed. His de-briefing and mental health, after returning, did not display such disability.

His actions brought great threat and hardship upon his fellow Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine personnel. A simple bad conduct discharge was not appropriate.

11-04-17, 07:01 PM

Where's the justice for the guys that got wounded trying to find him? ,a Seal got hit in the leg bad enough to get him discharged ,then there's the guy that got shot in the head who's in a wheelchair now and can't talk anymore! ,I'm sure they feel happy with him just getting dishonourably discharged!

11-03-17, 12:13 PM	#1
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Bergdahl walks From what is being reported, the sentence is just a fine and a Dishonorable Discharge. No prison time What is galling is that he is intending on appealing the DD! I guess he is a victim too. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-03-17, 12:21 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 29,983 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Time served??!! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

11-03-17, 12:49 PM	#5
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	"Speachless" __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

11-03-17, 01:27 PM	#6
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Appealing the sentence- he'd lose his benefits - sheesh, how ~horrible~ for him. I speak with facetious tongue... Appeals should automatically re-qualify a plaintiff for the maximum penalty, if they lose the appeal... Courts Martial, or otherwise. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,473 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Certainly a strange outcome __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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ET2SN Ocean Warrior Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 2,652 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Were you at the trial to hear all of the testimony? The Army is getting what it wants, the defendant is not getting all of what he wanted.

11-04-17, 10:46 AM	#10
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,360 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I was expecting 10 years __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

11-04-17, 11:19 AM	#11
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,383 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I guess the judges determined Bergdahl was guilty of stupidity more than subversion or treason. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

11-04-17, 06:13 PM	#14
Delgard Captain Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	With 35 years serving the military, I was disappointed. Someone that joins the military, even at 18, is an adult. He brought the whole situation upon himself and being captured was a high enough probability to have told him that his actions were not the best course of action. The military, each branch, is very attuned to mental health concerns and providing assistance. He would have been provided treatment and moved to a "stabler" duty position in AFG, initially, and/or sent stateside for increased treatment if so needed. His de-briefing and mental health, after returning, did not display such disability. His actions brought great threat and hardship upon his fellow Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine personnel. A simple bad conduct discharge was not appropriate.

11-04-17, 07:01 PM	#15
darius359au Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Where's the justice for the guys that got wounded trying to find him? ,a Seal got hit in the leg bad enough to get him discharged ,then there's the guy that got shot in the head who's in a wheelchair now and can't talk anymore! ,I'm sure they feel happy with him just getting dishonourably discharged!