US to pull staff from Cuba over 'attacks'

STEED · 09-29-17, 09:18 AM

Breaking news

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The US is to pull most of its staff from its embassy in Cuba after they suffered "sonic attacks", American media report.
The US is withdrawing about 60% of its embassy staff in response to attacks on diplomats, senior unnamed officials were quoted as saying.
It is also warning Americans not to visit the country because some attacks occurred in hotels, the sources say.
More than 20 diplomatic staff have reported health problems.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41446697

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vienna · 09-29-17, 10:41 AM

From what I've reading and hearing about the matter, even the Cuban government is puzzled. There has been some speculation either China or Russia may be behind the mystery, trying to gain intel in a place they perceive as more vulnerable than other sites; one radio report even posited some Jihad faction was either trying to get intel or was attempting some kind of tech attack against the US in Cuba as sort of a retaliation for their brethren being held in Gitmo...

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STEED · 09-29-17, 10:48 AM

Must admit it is very strange this.

Mr Quatro · 09-29-17, 11:32 AM

Very strange indeed ... if it is a foreign power why hasn't this been reported before and if it is a foreign power why wouldn't Cuba know about it?

The pictures show the embassy in a wide open environment ... could it be the food or drink served only to the embassy staff?

Sushi anyone?

Catfish · 09-29-17, 12:10 PM

Or Trump needs a pretext for a different foreign policy agenda towards Cuba, that suits him better. Didn't he say so some months ago

Oberon · 09-29-17, 12:49 PM

Could even be the DPRK, or perhaps someone who spent some time at Gitmo and wants to return the favour to Americans.

Devious attack though.

August · 09-29-17, 07:31 PM

Maybe it's the Russians trying to mess up the recent thawing of relations with the US.

Oberon · 09-30-17, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Maybe it's the Russians trying to mess up the recent thawing of relations with the US.

Could be, not sure what they'd have to gain from doing that, but 4D chess and all that.

Jimbuna · 09-30-17, 05:55 AM

Not just the Americans, the Canadians are reporting similarly.

Mr Quatro · 09-30-17, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not just the Americans, the Canadians are reporting similarly.

There's a clue, uh? This is a real mystery ... Holy Batman where are you?

August · 09-30-17, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Could be, not sure what they'd have to gain from doing that, but 4D chess and all that.

Well Putin has been courting them pretty hard in recent years. He has been to the island twice, had Raoul come to Moscow. He's forgiven billions in Soviet era debts, made agreements and loans for infrastructure development, thermal energy and oil exploration. Heck they're even started shipping Russian oil to Cuba again to make up for shortfalls from that other socialist paradise Venezuela. I'd think cooling of relations between the west and Cuba would both protect and help advance that agenda significantly.

On the other hand I don't see what advantage the Cuban government would get by making these attacks themselves. My gut tells me that somebody is setting them up as Patsies and the signs seem to point to Moscow. I could be wrong...

Platapus · 09-30-17, 09:38 AM

If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source?

August · 09-30-17, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source?

That's a good question. The news reports i've been seeing say that these things can be hand held and there can be a delay between exposure and noticeable effects I guess that could make it difficult to locate the sources.

Aktungbby · 09-30-17, 11:31 AM

maybe its a lot of ultrasonic roach killers kicked up to 'Miller time'

Platapus · 09-30-17, 01:16 PM

It would be a real kick in the butt if it turns out to be one of our own counter-surveillance efforts.

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,718 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	From what I've reading and hearing about the matter, even the Cuban government is puzzled. There has been some speculation either China or Russia may be behind the mystery, trying to gain intel in a place they perceive as more vulnerable than other sites; one radio report even posited some Jihad faction was either trying to get intel or was attempting some kind of tech attack against the US in Cuba as sort of a retaliation for their brethren being held in Gitmo... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Must admit it is very strange this. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very strange indeed ... if it is a foreign power why hasn't this been reported before and if it is a foreign power why wouldn't Cuba know about it? The pictures show the embassy in a wide open environment ... could it be the food or drink served only to the embassy staff? Sushi anyone? __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,774 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Or Trump needs a pretext for a different foreign policy agenda towards Cuba, that suits him better. Didn't he say so some months ago __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,216 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe it's the Russians trying to mess up the recent thawing of relations with the US. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Could even be the DPRK, or perhaps someone who spent some time at Gitmo and wants to return the favour to Americans. Devious attack though.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	If they think it is some sort of sonic thing, why can't we bring in sensors to identify and locate the source? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,032 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	maybe its a lot of ultrasonic roach killers kicked up to 'Miller time' __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It would be a real kick in the butt if it turns out to be one of our own counter-surveillance efforts. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.