"SH3Gen" Campaign enhancement (version 0.6.0)

Thanks for the feedback, i'm going to try this over the weekend and get back to you. Quick question though, is it compatible with NYGM Tonnage War ?

Cheers....

[bigboywooly]

hi I am using GW1 + 1.1 but am using the .scr layer from the wolfpack campaign - not that i think that matters as i understand it collects the data from the scr whatever it is

i was very impressed with the accuracy on slider full over to the right and am sure there are times when I will use it thus but realistically I am not going to creep into every harbour because I know a certain ship will be in there

Its usefull to know - with a certain degree of accuracy - that say a carrier is close to your intended grid not just for the chance to have a go at it but also that there is a greater chance of aircraft where you would least expect them or the fact you may run into a ASW task force

I will carry on using at different stages of intel and let you know the results but have to say am already impressed with first usage

did exactly what it said on the tin

lol will keep you informed anyways

update

after a 14 hr shift in hot sun thought would have a play

Ran sh3gen from last save then started game

Told me nelson and ramillies in Loch Ewe and stopped in on way back to base ( heavy fog couldnt miss that ) sure enough the old Nelson was afloat again :hmm: and ramillies in dock

had to turn away as no eels left

Off for a new patrol now will lessen accuracy and see how that goes

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

Thanks for the feedback, i'm going to try this over the weekend and get back to you. Quick question though, is it compatible with NYGM Tonnage War ?

Cheers....

I haven't tested with NYGM, but Sh3Gen should be compatible with all mods. Could you try it for us? That's why I release beta versions in the first place ..

@bigboywooly: I am going to carefully improve the balance between uncertainty and reliability. I think most players usually want to start by playing a few patrols on very high reliability where they will sink a Battleship/Carrier. Later on most people will want to reduce the intelligence to have a more realistic, suspenseful experience.

After 0.6 is about offering options to have very high accuracy, for future versions I have plans to implement other options that make the whole output completely unpredictable, where the player wouldn't know if the info is reliable or not, because even that is random. This is especially important for myself, because I know too much about how Sh3Gen works :rotfl:

Still looking forward to hear about your experiences. 0.6 isn't final so there are still possibilities to make small improvements / fixes.

GE

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Off for a new patrol now will lessen accuracy and see how that goes

HINT: It might not be such a good idea to play with reliability at minimum. The reliability slider controls, among other things, the time frame for the intelligence assessment. At the right it's shortest, and therefore very accurate for a very short period of time (I think min is 7 days). To the left you will get targets from a much longer period, (max is ~10 months). So probably not such a good idea to use reliability at minimum

Originally Posted by GlobalExplorer

I have plans to implement other options that make the whole output completely unpredictable, where the player wouldn't know if the info is reliable or not, because even that is random.

Now THAT I like!

[GreyOctober]

SMASHING!!

[GlobalExplorer]

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[GlobalExplorer]

UPDATE 2006-05-17:

Today I have released version 0.6.0 and it is available from here:

http://www.global-explorer.de/Sh3Gen%20Beta%200.6.0.zip

As usual, it comes with the nifty installer, and it now includes the complete standing orders 1.0 for the whole war. The output has also been more optimized for GW.

The inprogram documentation is improved and there is also much more information about Sh3Gen features and usage on my site.

www.global-explorer.de

GE

FEATURESET:

+ standing operational orders 1939-1945, german and english language
+ improved customizing options
+ new reliability slider
+ option to toggle parsing of RND_Layer to greatly improve reliablity of intelligence
+ reduced default assessment period and other values to improve target reliablity of intelligence
+ improved balance with GW1.1
+ re-enabled airbase plotting

CREDITS:

This version wouldn't have been possible without the help of several people:
- Hans Abbadon, who gave me the permission to use his excellent U-Boaters Guide for the Standing Orders Addon. Thanks!
- Brad Golding, who invested lots of time into the completely revised Standing Orders for Sh3Gen
- Georg Unterberg, who translated the Standing Orders to German.

- Thanks go to Boris Gerasimon for his translation services.

[gouldjg]

I really look forward to giving this a try

[VonHelsching]

Thumbs up for Sh3Gen

Thanks also for the better integration with GW!

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by VonHelsching

Thumbs up for Sh3Gen

Thanks also for the better integration with GW!

Information is lessened by default, especially for some factions which were off (US), reliability has generally increased, but you can go back to pre 0.6 levels by moving the reliability slider. Dont go to zero though, or the info will be almost useless :rotfl:

Please check if you're already happy with GW output. Could only do two patrols and got stuck having issues with sinking behaviour. In the second patrol I could sink a troop transporter and a landing craft in Tobruk, that was pretty cool!

There is also an alternative config file for people with older mods (RuB/IuB etc), completely forgot to mention that. It's in Sh3Gen's root folder.

So is it less compatible with NYGM ? I have to ask this as NYGM is the base from which I work from.

Thanks....

[Scorpius]

This is one of the best programs for immersion out there! Good job with this mate!

Also what does the ? - and + mean on either side of the ships name?

The issue has been raised that commanders had no where near the level of intel that SH3 Gen provides.....is this the case ?

[GlobalExplorer]

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

So is it less compatible with NYGM ? I have to ask this as NYGM is the base from which I work from.

No thats no problem, I must have confused you. I have fine tuned the program setup to generate the most balanced output with GW - it is compatible with the other mods too.

You probably won't even notice a difference. It might only be that there is more or less info for some areas / periods than would be historically correct. The balance can be achieved through improved config files for all mods, but I don't have the time to play them all.

NYGM is a very fine mod, so of course Sh3Gen must run with it.

Originally Posted by Scorpius

This is one of the best programs for immersion out there! Good job with this mate!

Also what does the ? - and + mean on either side of the ships name?

The ? is a very important information.

? means it is an allied (enemy) target.
+ means axis
- means neutral

You find this and other important information in my glossary for Sh3Gen:

http://www.global-explorer.de/contentpage_glossary.htm

Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

The issue has been raised that commanders had no where near the level of intel that SH3 Gen provides.....is this the case ?

You're definitely right. But don't forget I am offering many customizing options so you can reduce the intelligence to practically zero. Also, the default setting, the one I recommend, is fairly low. It shouldn't show more than one to three fat targets, and some of them might be unreachable.

But also don't forget this is a game. I strive for what i think is realism, but at the same time it has to be fun.

It is not entirely realistic becuase you could theoretically sink a fat ship every mission, thats for sure.

Where was this question raised?

GE

Thats fair enough....I mentioned SH3 Gen in the WaW forums and a concern about realism was expressed so I thought it best to ask you what you think.

WaW strives for historical accuracy and realism, well as much as one can with the game engine. Thats why compatibility with NYGM is important as they are, in my crumble oppinion, the realism mod standard.

Cheers....