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Old 04-21-06, 03:55 PM   #46
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Beats a white flag with bloody stripes and stars which represent ....Hollywood ?
If your talking about the flag of the U.S.A., them colors don't run! They also don't care what a bunch of pacifists have to say either.
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Old 04-21-06, 04:30 PM   #47
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Beats a white flag with bloody stripes and stars which represent ....Hollywood ?
If your talking about the flag of the U.S.A., them colors don't run! They also don't care what a bunch of pacifists have to say either.
Waiting for the firefight.
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Old 04-22-06, 02:47 AM   #48
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Abraham, I think we do not agree on the practical aspects of the issue.
After all, your position implies total war (starting with attack; you can imagine what will follow), when diplomacy (soon definetely) fails. In my estimation the majority of western people will not support that war. Not to mention the 'islamic world'.
Perhaps we disagree on this issue, which is not a bad thing by itself.
It does not imply "total war". It just implies that your policy intrests at stake is so essential, that you are prepared to back diplomatic means up with sanctions and, eventually, military action.
Contrary to popular thinking, showing such resolution improves the chance for a diplomatic solution and lessens the chance of a military conflict.
If such a conflict would ever be necessairy, it would certainly not be a total war, not even a ground war, but a number of strikes to destroy essential nuclear facilities and part of the offensive capability of the Iranian military.
I hope in the aftermath the theocratic regime in Iran collapses.

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Also, a dragged out war is bad for my stocks.
That is really short term thinking...
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PS Abraham:
I forgot:
I am optimistic.
You are being pessimistic here.
On this we certainly disagree!
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Old 04-22-06, 04:59 AM   #49
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Abraham, we live in democracies, remember ?

First 'we' would have to rally a fat majority in favor of action, wouldnt you agree ?
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Old 04-22-06, 09:54 AM   #50
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Abraham, we live in democracies, remember ?

First 'we' would have to rally a fat majority in favor of action, wouldnt you agree ?
War or military action is not a matter of a popular poll, but a decision by the government, checked by democratically chosen representatives of the people.

By the way, I think if you have a clear policy on this nonproliferation problem, that you could find a mayority in most western parliaments. Especially since the US, Britain, France and Germany have basically coordinated their policy.
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