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Well if the big five were to abide by the rules, that would go a lot further in convincing other countries to listen.
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Would have saved £££££ worth of dosh.
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Another thing about the Swedish judicial system-Which I have been told by my Cousin and by reading and watching educational program about this
In Sweden you are, when arrested, guilty until proven not guilty Markus |
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About £12 million as far as I'm aware.
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What has been added, in that sum?
The protection against outlandish seceret sevrice trying to kill him? ![]()
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Are you serious? If you get charged with murder its your responsibility to prove yourself innocent rather than prosecutor proving that you are guilty? If that is the case then I really understand Mr. Assange's reluctance of facing Swedish "justice system"...
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I have to agree. Any system that requires the suspect to prove his innocence has nothing to do with justice. We have enough problems with innocent people being found "guilty" as it is.
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I.....don't believe that's how the Swedish system works.
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I think mapuc might have misunderstood it.
Both in Sweden and in Finland, it does matter how publicized a case and the perps are. For example, 6-7 months ago, woman was sexually assaulted in Finland. She was taken hold of by two, while one was putting his finger in her you-know-what. The case was highly publicized and eventually, because of that their sentences were lowered. ****ing awesome justice system is it not? ![]() Hell, in Finland, "life sentence" is about 14-15 years, in some cases it has been longer but usually that's the "life sentence" you get in Finland. It's a joke. |
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I really hope so. I had always assumed our system's were quite similar.
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Perhaps it was Edwin Meese, AG 85-88, who said "...But the thing is, you don`t have many suspects who are innocent of a crime. That`s contradictory. If a person is innocent of a crime, then he is not a suspect." in the words of Joe Biden at the time the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Commitee, "My God. . . . Ed Meese`s answer is the overwhelming proof of why we need Miranda . . . because there are people like Ed Meese who believe that anyone who`s a suspect is guilty until proven innocent. My God, this guy`s beginning to worry me." Maybe Meese can be Trump's AG?
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Dowly is correct
It is me who must have misunderstood something. Markus |
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IIRC, wasn't Ed Meese forced to resign over his involvement in scandals involving highly unethical, and possibly criminal activities while in office? But of course, since he was a Regan acolyte, and there fore above the law, he wasn't really a suspect, was he, since by his own definition, he was automatically guilty...
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