Windows 10: What You Need to Know - Page 39

STEED · 01-09-16, 05:53 PM

All set for Malware Spyware Nagware Tuesday?

NO

Skybird · 01-10-16, 09:21 AM

Latest:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/302...html?nsdr=true

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

All set for Malware Spyware Nagware Tuesday?

NO

I'm happy that I must not worry about that anymore.

One thing is interesting, too. Since I have isolated my Windows gaming partition on HD1 as much as possible - by my limited knowledge - from the web, it fragmentises MUCH slower, and defragmentation works much faster, and can be run less often.

STEED · 01-11-16, 08:42 AM

I have noticed something odd, since turning off the updates and do not check I have been seeing large error reports, some of them are to with something locked up so what but a lot of them show failed to install. I checked the dates and nothing shows up on those days except one date when I was doing a manual update for MS updates, its like something is trying to install itself but can not. I am wondering is this MS trying to download something on me but due to the fact I switched off auto updates can not get though?

Will keep a eye on this.

aanker · 01-11-16, 12:12 PM

No problem here Steed - yet....

I check for updates late in the month, Auto updates off, Win 7 64 Home Premium and Office 2003. You can see those I did and didn't install from last month:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=561

The month before we both installed the .NET updates and not much else.

That's my status. I am interested in RRobbins walk-through - Skybirds too, getting SH4 & SHCE running (also the forums) and learn about Linux with Win 7, however I hope that's in the distant future.

STEED · 01-11-16, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

No problem here Steed - yet....

I don't see it as yet as a problem more of a mystery, every so often the action centre shows a report under the security section. A percentage of it I can dismiss like Internet froze or crashed so what but since turning off the auto updates I see failed to install on such a day. I deleted the report but the next time it pops up I shall put some info up.

Skybird · 01-11-16, 04:17 PM

Use this.

http://xp-antispy.org/en/download/#

Chose the English download.

I do not know whether the interface then is given in English, if it still is in German, find a colleague, friend, buddy, who understands a a bit of German, and who can talk you thorugh all options. You want to switch most of them to "locked" anyway.

The tool does not install, and can be run from just the location where you drop its folder.

It is in pricple nothign else but a GUI for editing many registry settings that you do not need to edit manually then via regedit. You can establish profiles, too: one for having your system locked with maximum security (=isolated), and one with loosend settings to allow checking for updates.

It is old and originally was done for XP, but I can testify that it works smooth and reliable under W7x64 Pro that I use. In German-tongued user communities, it is a classic and quite famous.

It cures many vulnerabilities that were acutal back then, but also some that are still actual under W7. And it seals quite a few background tasks connecting to Ms servers that are not the Windows Update Server.

You do not want to just switch off Windows Updates only. You want to switch off as many - if possible: ALL - connections to MS servers.

---

Latest readings appeared as indicative to me that maybe it helps to not have updated to Explorer 11 to avoid getting certain GWX-related updates shuffled onto your rig. Since I did not use Explorer 11 anyway, I did not update Explorer to version 11. Cannot say with certainty if that is a valid finding, however.

Since I ran xp-antispy, the level of HD activity has significantly toned down when I run the gaming partititon.

---

Never had any error messages like you, Steed. Maybe you did some tricks to your installation that created dependencies, before you started to lock it up somewhat...?

Skybird · 01-11-16, 04:32 PM

BTW, I wrote Woody a mail, asking whether he knows of or thinks that Microsoft could consider switching off activation servers for newly installed W7. He replied that he does not see that coming in the next five years or so - and that he thinks in five years Windows will not play a big role anymore anyway. For the time being and the years to come, my gaming seems to be safe. New games needing W10, I will not consider to buy.

I think he is right. There seems to be a big rush towards Linux Mint and other Ubuntu distributions currently. The aggressiveness of Microsoft may be a sign of their arrogance. But it could also be a sign of despair. In some months, the "free" W10 update Window willö end, and then people will need to pay money for this malware garbage. As I see it, W10 has had its greatest level of popularity already behind it. Until that "free update" time-window ends, MS will probably continue to go berserk.

And I learned that some of the games I currently have installed via Steam - are available to be installed under Linux as well, amongst them ETS2 and Tennis Ellbow, which i frequently use.

Skybird · 01-11-16, 05:13 PM

http://www.infoworld.com/article/302...html?nsdr=true

"
Over the weekend, a barrage of tests proved what many of you had feared: Even if you use the Microsoft-sanctioned DisableGWX and DisableOSUpgrade registry settings, the KB 3035583 patch still installs all of the Get Windows 10 nagware. GWX and all of its components sit there, hidden, running in the background even if you can't see the Get Windows 10 icon in the system tray.
Microsoft's most-reviled patch for Windows 7 and 8.1 isn't going away anytime soon.
"

One cannot repeat it often enough. There is no, zero, rien, kein reason to trust those privacy options that MS underhandingly laid out before your eyes.
You belíeve them only because you want to make yourself falling for the comfortable illusion.

My recommendation stands: DO NEVER USE WINDOWs UPDATE even if you freshly install Windows 7. Afwetr installing, immediately switch off and seal the system'S connections to ANY MS server. Then run an archive of SP1 updates and an archive of Windows updates since SP! that you have previously downloaded and saved to DVD. Before installing their many inlcuded updates, check them for the critical KB numbers - as once agai n listed in the above article - and untick them, so that they never get installed at all. Then activate Windows, but still make sure that Windows Updates are not allowed. Do not turn on "inform but do not install", sinc e this already establishes a link to MS servers. Always, from first installation minute on, have Windows update switched OFF. And never, NEVER, turn it on again. Do not care for updating your Win7. By now, it doe snot get quality improvements anymore, it gets not further worked on. Half of the updates in past months were related to trying to infiltrate with GWX and W10 update advertising, not to W7-relevant updating.

Of course, this should also be clear by now, but I repeat it just to be safe: this provides you with a W7 environment that you should only use for game-laucnhging and FOPR NOTHING ELSE, do not use it as as your usual working environment, do not use it for surfing. For that, you need an alternative OS on a second HD, like Linux.

STEED · 01-12-16, 10:29 AM

Looks like I got all worked up for nothing just checked no updates! Or have I got the wrong Tuesday?

Rockin Robbins · 01-12-16, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aanker

No problem here Steed - yet....

I check for updates late in the month, Auto updates off, Win 7 64 Home Premium and Office 2003. You can see those I did and didn't install from last month:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=561

The month before we both installed the .NET updates and not much else.

That's my status. I am interested in RRobbins walk-through - Skybirds too, getting SH4 & SHCE running (also the forums) and learn about Linux with Win 7, however I hope that's in the distant future.

You can see . I haven't installed U-Boat Missions yet because I'll have to go through the begging Ubi for permission to use the add-on I purchased process. I should do that and then post a complete tutorial.

I can't notice any difference between how SH4 runs on Linux from Windows 7. There is no "unfortunately" to the fact that I'm running it in Linux.

Now some don't like Ubuntu. But they are mostly running derivatives of Ubuntu or Debian. Linux Mint, Peppermint Linux, Elementary OS, and a couple dozen others are completely compatible with Ubuntu. There are a bunch of people who down Ubuntu and use Mint. They ignore the fact that Mint is essentially Ubuntu with a different GUI and they can't agree on whether to use Cinnamon or MATE. And they have XFCE and KDE editions now as well. The fact is you can take any of the Ubuntu family Linux installations and install the Unity, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, Cinnamon, MATE, LXDE, OpenBox or even other GUIs to be selectable at boot-up or log-on.

It as if you could actually have Windows 10, but were able to pick the Windows 3.11, Windows 98SE, Windows XP, Windows 7 or Windows 8 GUI to work with any time you wanted. Linux is SO FAR ahead of Windows on implementing user choice. They know what an operating system is. Microsoft has entirely forgotten.

Skybird · 01-12-16, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Microsoft has entirely forgotten.

[psych mode]You cannot intentionally forget something. You can only intentionally ignore. [/psych mode]

Skybird · 01-12-16, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Looks like I got all worked up for nothing just checked no updates! Or have I got the wrong Tuesday?

Give it until Wednesday at least before calling off stations.

STEED · 01-12-16, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Give it until Wednesday at least before calling off stations.

Just checked again and they are up.

Win8.1
Important
KB 3124275 IE11 not needed by me
KB 3109560
KB 3109853
KB 3110329
KB 3121212
KB 3121918
KB 3123479
KB 3124001
KB 3133431 IE11 Flash player not needed by me
KB 890830 Malicious Software Removal Tool

Optional
KB 2976978 this one has been treated as suspect and at the time very little info

Two written off don't use IE11 as for the rest they will remain on hold until I get info what is OK and what not to install. Glad the number of updates is well down on last month.

STEED · 01-13-16, 12:21 PM

Quote:

JAN 7, 2016

Windows 10, Microsoft’s flagship OS is now active on more than 200,000,000 devices monthly.

http://news.filehippo.com/2016/01/wi...ices-globally/

Comments below are in most part anti MS.

Skybird · 01-14-16, 06:06 AM

from here: http://www.askwoody.com/2016/how-get...ows-7-and-8-1/

01-09-16, 05:53 PM	#571
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	All set for Malware Spyware Nagware Tuesday? NO __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-11-16, 08:42 AM	#573
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I have noticed something odd, since turning off the updates and do not check I have been seeing large error reports, some of them are to with something locked up so what but a lot of them show failed to install. I checked the dates and nothing shows up on those days except one date when I was doing a manual update for MS updates, its like something is trying to install itself but can not. I am wondering is this MS trying to download something on me but due to the fact I switched off auto updates can not get though? Will keep a eye on this. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-11-16, 04:17 PM	#576
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Use this. http://xp-antispy.org/en/download/# Chose the English download. I do not know whether the interface then is given in English, if it still is in German, find a colleague, friend, buddy, who understands a a bit of German, and who can talk you thorugh all options. You want to switch most of them to "locked" anyway. The tool does not install, and can be run from just the location where you drop its folder. It is in pricple nothign else but a GUI for editing many registry settings that you do not need to edit manually then via regedit. You can establish profiles, too: one for having your system locked with maximum security (=isolated), and one with loosend settings to allow checking for updates. It is old and originally was done for XP, but I can testify that it works smooth and reliable under W7x64 Pro that I use. In German-tongued user communities, it is a classic and quite famous. It cures many vulnerabilities that were acutal back then, but also some that are still actual under W7. And it seals quite a few background tasks connecting to Ms servers that are not the Windows Update Server. You do not want to just switch off Windows Updates only. You want to switch off as many - if possible: ALL - connections to MS servers. --- Latest readings appeared as indicative to me that maybe it helps to not have updated to Explorer 11 to avoid getting certain GWX-related updates shuffled onto your rig. Since I did not use Explorer 11 anyway, I did not update Explorer to version 11. Cannot say with certainty if that is a valid finding, however. Since I ran xp-antispy, the level of HD activity has significantly toned down when I run the gaming partititon. --- Never had any error messages like you, Steed. Maybe you did some tricks to your installation that created dependencies, before you started to lock it up somewhat...? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-11-16, 04:32 PM	#577
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	BTW, I wrote Woody a mail, asking whether he knows of or thinks that Microsoft could consider switching off activation servers for newly installed W7. He replied that he does not see that coming in the next five years or so - and that he thinks in five years Windows will not play a big role anymore anyway. For the time being and the years to come, my gaming seems to be safe. New games needing W10, I will not consider to buy. I think he is right. There seems to be a big rush towards Linux Mint and other Ubuntu distributions currently. The aggressiveness of Microsoft may be a sign of their arrogance. But it could also be a sign of despair. In some months, the "free" W10 update Window willö end, and then people will need to pay money for this malware garbage. As I see it, W10 has had its greatest level of popularity already behind it. Until that "free update" time-window ends, MS will probably continue to go berserk. And I learned that some of the games I currently have installed via Steam - are available to be installed under Linux as well, amongst them ETS2 and Tennis Ellbow, which i frequently use. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

01-11-16, 05:13 PM	#578
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	http://www.infoworld.com/article/302...html?nsdr=true " Over the weekend, a barrage of tests proved what many of you had feared: Even if you use the Microsoft-sanctioned DisableGWX and DisableOSUpgrade registry settings, the KB 3035583 patch still installs all of the Get Windows 10 nagware. GWX and all of its components sit there, hidden, running in the background even if you can't see the Get Windows 10 icon in the system tray. Microsoft's most-reviled patch for Windows 7 and 8.1 isn't going away anytime soon. " One cannot repeat it often enough. There is no, zero, rien, kein reason to trust those privacy options that MS underhandingly laid out before your eyes. You belíeve them only because you want to make yourself falling for the comfortable illusion. My recommendation stands: DO NEVER USE WINDOWs UPDATE even if you freshly install Windows 7. Afwetr installing, immediately switch off and seal the system'S connections to ANY MS server. Then run an archive of SP1 updates and an archive of Windows updates since SP! that you have previously downloaded and saved to DVD. Before installing their many inlcuded updates, check them for the critical KB numbers - as once agai n listed in the above article - and untick them, so that they never get installed at all. Then activate Windows, but still make sure that Windows Updates are not allowed. Do not turn on "inform but do not install", sinc e this already establishes a link to MS servers. Always, from first installation minute on, have Windows update switched OFF. And never, NEVER, turn it on again. Do not care for updating your Win7. By now, it doe snot get quality improvements anymore, it gets not further worked on. Half of the updates in past months were related to trying to infiltrate with GWX and W10 update advertising, not to W7-relevant updating. Of course, this should also be clear by now, but I repeat it just to be safe: this provides you with a W7 environment that you should only use for game-laucnhging and FOPR NOTHING ELSE, do not use it as as your usual working environment, do not use it for surfing. For that, you need an alternative OS on a second HD, like Linux. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 01-11-16 at 05:29 PM.

01-11-16, 12:12 PM	#574
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	No problem here Steed - yet.... I check for updates late in the month, Auto updates off, Win 7 64 Home Premium and Office 2003. You can see those I did and didn't install from last month: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=561 The month before we both installed the .NET updates and not much else. That's my status. I am interested in RRobbins walk-through - Skybirds too, getting SH4 & SHCE running (also the forums) and learn about Linux with Win 7, however I hope that's in the distant future.

01-12-16, 10:29 AM	#579
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Looks like I got all worked up for nothing just checked no updates! Or have I got the wrong Tuesday? __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

01-14-16, 06:06 AM	#585
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,660 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	from here: http://www.askwoody.com/2016/how-get...ows-7-and-8-1/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.