scary landing

[Harvs]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is your pilot speaking, thank you for flying KLM Asia today and i would like to take this time to remind you upon exiting the aircraft to kindly remove the seat cushions from your arses.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227458584035

[BossMark]

Great skill shown by the pilots

[Eichhörnchen]

Bugger! It looks just like a R/C model landing. That pilot earned his pay for sure.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by BossMark

Great skill shown by the pilots

Maybe a more skilled pilot wouldn't have had so much drama during finals? We didn't see any other aircraft land for comparison.

Which doesn't mean that the pilot doesn't have skill it's just we don't know how good or bad he/she really is from that landing alone.






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[Tchocky]

I'm seeing a lot of pilot-induced oscillations in this one.

Still good flying, perhaps over-controlling a little bit. Hard to simulate this kind of thing.

[Oberon]

So Holland has been as windy as here too, eh?

Good landing though, I'd say Tchocky was right there, and that the pilot was perhaps over-controlling it a little, but it's easily done in a situation like that. Ultimately he or she got it on the deck in one piece, and you know what they say about landings you can walk away from.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'm seeing a lot of pilot-induced oscillations in this one. Hard to simulate this kind of thing.

I'm with my buddy Schroeder and Tchocky: on balance I think he probably did it to scare the crap out of the Germans. My wife can do this with our car.

[Harvs]

I read a story where the pilot, after a rough landing was greeting the passengers as they left the plane and this old woman asked him if the plane was shot down

[CaptainHaplo]

A good pilot can execute a landing like that.
A great pilot will find an alternative so that he doesn't endanger the lives of the people on board. An alternate airport, circling until conditions allow a safer landing, requesting a strip with a different orientation to minimize shear and side winds, etc.

I'd rather have the latter.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

A good pilot can execute a landing like that.
A great pilot will find an alternative so that he doesn't endanger the lives of the people on board. An alternate airport, circling until conditions allow a safer landing, requesting a strip with a different orientation to minimize shear and side winds, etc.

I'd rather have the latter.

It's not just up to the pilot. He can't randomly choose what he wants. Air traffic control will tell him which runway to take and under stormy conditions those with unsafe crosswind will be closed anyway so the one he got was most likely the one with the least crosswind. Circling can only be done for so long before the plane runs out of fuel and the airline will probably have the pilots head for the extra cost of keeping the plane in the air for longer than necessary. If other planes could land safely with that wind than the pilot will also be hard pressed to explain to his passengers and airline why he went to a different airport.... So it's not that easy.

Originally Posted by Tchocky

I'm seeing a lot of pilot-induced oscillations in this one.

Still good flying, perhaps over-controlling a little bit. Hard to simulate this kind of thing.

That reminds me of a training flight I had when I was still flying gliders. The plane was behaving very erratically that day and I really struggled to make it fly straight but it would have non of that. Sometimes the nose pointed to much to the left for a straight flight so I corrected it with very light right rudder....seconds later the nose pointed too much right...so I gave it a little left rudder ...rinse and repeat I never got it straightened out. After two minutes or so my instructor asked me whether I noticed something odd and I said yeah, the plane is really behaving strangely and he said: Yep, that is known as "pilot induced oscillation"....
Smelly brown stuff......
I took my feet out of the pedals and the thing flew straight.

[Wolferz]

[QUOTE][I took my feet out of the pedals and the thing flew straight. /QUOTE]


Maybe that was the problem?

Having your feet ON the pedals would've been better, yes?

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Maybe that was the problem?

Having your feet ON the pedals would've been better, yes?

Tut mir leid, ich spreche kein Englisch....

[NeonSamurai]

I dunno, that landing didn't look all that dramatic to me, even if the pilot was hamfisting it a bit. But a view from the front or back would have been more indicative of the difficulty of that landing as you can't tell how much the plane was meandering from the runway left or right.

[Wolferz]

Lucky he got her down in one piece. Nice flyin.

I think he was feverishly hunting for the air brakes.

[Jimbuna]

Not sure if Tchocky would agree but unless I'm wrong I believe Schiphol is well know for its occasional tricky wind conditions. I flew in and out of there on a fortnightly basis for over two years and many is the time things would get a little uppity during takeoff and or landing.

I put it down to the lack of mountains in the area that would help shield from the winds coming over the Russian steppes....least that is what I had the wife believe