To tip or not to tip - Page 2

fireftr18 · 02-22-15, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The United States has a very strong tipping culture; so strong that most restaurants are legally able to pay far below the minimum wage - only 1/4 to 1/3. The waiters and waitresses are expected to make a certain amount in tips, and are taxed according to that expected amount. Supposedly 15% is expected. My friends and I always figure 20%, and then round up to the nearest whole dollar. That only changes if the service is very poor.

The downside is that now a lot of fast food places have tip jars on the counter. That I'll never do, as a behind-the-counter job doesn't involve actually waiting on the customer. Pizza-delivery guy? You bet. Taxi driver? Yep. Clerk of any kind? Not really. Unpaid musicians hosting the blues jam for nothing? Yes, please.

My feelings exactly. I really hate that we are expected to subsidize pay. I don't mind giving a little extra for better service, but the staff shouldn't have to rely on tips. It's so ingrained in the culture that if we avoid a restaurant that under pays the staff, then we eliminate every one of them. I tip the same as you Steve.

Wolferz · 02-22-15, 01:41 PM

Always ready with a tip:

Save your money.

Aktungbby · 02-22-15, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

Tipping. Proof as if one needed it, that life is neither fair nor equitable.

^Naturally I'd be at 20% here; as Ms Blondie clearly and generously 'splits' her tips with her BUSSBOYS;

my gratuity should reflect my gratitude!!...especially when it's my wife's 'Dutch' treat on her card...

Sailor Steve · 02-22-15, 01:59 PM

Oh, and I forgot: My tips are never based on age, looks or clothes. The waitresses at the place my friends and I frequent are often middle-aged women trying to survive in a world that values youth and beauty. If they do a good job and constantly check to make sure the coffee cups and water glasses are full then they get our gratitude. We're there to eat, and that's all that matters.

Aktungbby · 02-22-15, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Oh, and I forgot: My tips are never based on age, looks or clothes. The waitresses at the place my friends and I frequent are often middle-aged women trying to survive in a world that values youth and beauty. If they do a good job and constantly check to make sure the coffee cups and water glasses are full then they get our gratitude. We're there to eat, and that's all that matters.

I salute you high moral character and integrity...I'm so old' I think the middle-aged syrens ARE the youthful and beautiful ones! This actually is in everyone's interest as, in the end, all are tipped equally!

fireftr18 · 02-22-15, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Oh, and I forgot: My tips are never based on age, looks or clothes. The waitresses at the place my friends and I frequent are often middle-aged women trying to survive in a world that values youth and beauty. If they do a good job and constantly check to make sure the coffee cups and water glasses are full then they get our gratitude. We're there to eat, and that's all that matters.

I like to think I'm the same way, but I'm not going to say I'm better than the average guy. At least my wife is attractive enough that she keeps my thoughts in perspective.

Stealhead · 02-23-15, 12:33 AM

I worked at a restaurant in high school in the kitchen so of course know that legally a restaurant can pay low wages to servers due to tips. To me it is pretty unfair as some people are just stingy and don't tip at all or tip poorly.

Of course many places now at least for larger parties have an automatic gratiuty. But that dose not cover small parties. So as a result a servers income can vary greatly from week to week. One time they might do well and make a good amount on tips another time they might come out not averageing minimum wage.

Another unfair factor is many places will under staff servers requireing them to cover too many tables which will result in lower average tips.

Now one group less effected by tips are bar tenders I guess because they're helping you have a good time and the service is obvious. I have no doubt that some bartenders in Kaiserslautern made out very well on tips coming from myself and my cohorts.

Fully agree on the counter tip jar that's malarkey.

How about haircuts and similar services? I always tip after getting a cut.

Jimbuna · 02-23-15, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Oh, and I forgot: My tips are never based on age, looks or clothes. The waitresses at the place my friends and I frequent are often middle-aged women trying to survive in a world that values youth and beauty. If they do a good job and constantly check to make sure the coffee cups and water glasses are full then they get our gratitude. We're there to eat, and that's all that matters.

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Originally Posted by fireftr18

I like to think I'm the same way, but I'm not going to say I'm better than the average guy. At least my wife is attractive enough that she keeps my thoughts in perspective.

Aye, full agreement

ReallyDedPoet · 02-23-15, 09:26 AM

Good service = a good tip, regardless of who is serving. The service industry is not an easy one, and when folks are able to thrive in it I reward them. I have done it a few times, from behind a bar which included waiting on tables, food included, it was not easy. But I enjoyed it

On the flip side I also enjoyed seeing a few people tossed out when they were being an arse

On occasion I got to do this myself.

02-22-15, 01:41 PM	#17
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Always ready with a tip: Save your money. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

02-22-15, 01:59 PM	#19
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Oh, and I forgot: My tips are never based on age, looks or clothes. The waitresses at the place my friends and I frequent are often middle-aged women trying to survive in a world that values youth and beauty. If they do a good job and constantly check to make sure the coffee cups and water glasses are full then they get our gratitude. We're there to eat, and that's all that matters. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-23-15, 09:26 AM	#24
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Good service = a good tip, regardless of who is serving. The service industry is not an easy one, and when folks are able to thrive in it I reward them. I have done it a few times, from behind a bar which included waiting on tables, food included, it was not easy. But I enjoyed it On the flip side I also enjoyed seeing a few people tossed out when they were being an arse On occasion I got to do this myself. __________________ Back in the Day

02-23-15, 12:33 AM	#22
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I worked at a restaurant in high school in the kitchen so of course know that legally a restaurant can pay low wages to servers due to tips. To me it is pretty unfair as some people are just stingy and don't tip at all or tip poorly. Of course many places now at least for larger parties have an automatic gratiuty. But that dose not cover small parties. So as a result a servers income can vary greatly from week to week. One time they might do well and make a good amount on tips another time they might come out not averageing minimum wage. Another unfair factor is many places will under staff servers requireing them to cover too many tables which will result in lower average tips. Now one group less effected by tips are bar tenders I guess because they're helping you have a good time and the service is obvious. I have no doubt that some bartenders in Kaiserslautern made out very well on tips coming from myself and my cohorts. Fully agree on the counter tip jar that's malarkey. How about haircuts and similar services? I always tip after getting a cut.